[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

As usual, when there is something which runs counter to 2pid's 'logic'
and 'points,' he simply ignores it.

2pid is having a hard time processing that the Iraqis are not behaving
as we'd wish.

On Aug 15, 9:35 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote in message
You think there'll be a regional Sunni vs Shia war ?

I think it's a possibility if we pull out prematurely and let them
have at it.

What do we have to do with it, 2pid?

"Despite U.S. claims that violence is down in the Iraqi capital, U.S.
military officers are offering a bleak picture of Iraq's future,
saying they've yet to see any signs of reconciliation between Sunni
and Shiite Muslims despite the drop in violence."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20..._attn_national...

(Once again, military officers agreeing with me, not 2pid. Perhaps
this "Starship Trooper" 2pid keeps moaning about is not such a bad
idea.)

[MiNe 109]

In article om,
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:

As usual, when there is something which runs counter to 2pid's 'logic'
and 'points,' he simply ignores it.

2pid is having a hard time processing that the Iraqis are not behaving
as we'd wish.

On Aug 15, 9:35 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote in message
You think there'll be a regional Sunni vs Shia war ?

I think it's a possibility if we pull out prematurely and let them
have at it.

What do we have to do with it, 2pid?

"Despite U.S. claims that violence is down in the Iraqi capital, U.S.
military officers are offering a bleak picture of Iraq's future,
saying they've yet to see any signs of reconciliation between Sunni
and Shiite Muslims despite the drop in violence."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20..._attn_national...

(Once again, military officers agreeing with me, not 2pid. Perhaps
this "Starship Trooper" 2pid keeps moaning about is not such a bad
idea.)

And here's the 82nd Airborne:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/19/op...r=3&pagewanted
=print&oref=slogin

Given the situation, it is important not to assess security from an
American-centered perspective. The ability of, say, American observers
to safely walk down the streets of formerly violent towns is not a
resounding indicator of security. What matters is the experience of the
local citizenry and the future of our counterinsurgency. When we take
this view, we see that a vast majority of Iraqis feel increasingly
insecure and view us as an occupation force that has failed to produce
normalcy after four years and is increasingly unlikely to do so as we
continue to arm each warring side.

Coupling our military strategy to an insistence that the Iraqis meet
political benchmarks for reconciliation is also unhelpful. The morass in
the government has fueled impatience and confusion while providing no
semblance of security to average Iraqis. Leaders are far from arriving
at a lasting political settlement. This should not be surprising, since
a lasting political solution will not be possible while the military
situation remains in constant flux.

--

End quote.

Stephen

[George M. Middius]

MiNe 109 said:

And here's the 82nd Airborne:

... a vast majority of Iraqis ... view us as an occupation force that has
failed to produce normalcy after four years and is increasingly unlikely
to do so as we continue to arm each warring side.

Is that what he meant to say? Surely we're not deliberately arming
everybody. (Stolen weapons not included, of course.) Most of TV's
talking heads affirm that our friends the Saudis are arming Sunnis and
our enemies the Iranians are arming the Shiites.

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

And here's the 82nd Airborne:

... a vast majority of Iraqis ... view us as an occupation force that has
failed to produce normalcy after four years and is increasingly unlikely
to do so as we continue to arm each warring side.

Is that what he meant to say? Surely we're not deliberately arming
everybody. (Stolen weapons not included, of course.) Most of TV's
talking heads affirm that our friends the Saudis are arming Sunnis and
our enemies the Iranians are arming the Shiites.

No, we're arming everyone. Sunni:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6740683.stm

Support for the Iraqi government translates to arming the Shia militias.
The stolen arms recently in the news were a subset of those we supply to
the Shia dominated government:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...8/05/AR2007080
501299.html

Look for more 'news' of Iranian involvement as current administration
beats the war drums for action against Iran.

Stephen

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Aug 21, 12:21 pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net wrote:
MiNe 109 said:

And here's the 82nd Airborne:
... a vast majority of Iraqis ... view us as an occupation force that has
failed to produce normalcy after four years and is increasingly unlikely
to do so as we continue to arm each warring side.

Is that what he meant to say?

AHA! I caught you!

That article was signed by *seven* soldiers and NCOs of the 82nd
Airborne Division, an elite and storied US Army unit. You know, "82nd!
All American! Pick up your weapon and follow me! I am the infantry!"
and Band of Brothers.

You should have said "they."

But on to something even more amazing: Why didn't 2pid's bloggers pick
up on this? Why isn't 2pid inundating RAO with quotes from all of his
redneck bloggers on the fact that seven soldiers, one of whom was shot
in the head (and be well, brother), all of whom were currently serving
in Iraq, were seditious (2pid sic) enough to say such treasonous (2pid
sic) things?

I do hope 2pid's alright.

[George M. Middius]

Shhhh! said:

I do hope 2pid's alright.

Wow, that's a surprise. But fear not, he just went in for a checkup:
http://www.kylepettitart.com/idiot_test.jpg

(Note that Scottie used a coupon for $1 off.)

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Aug 21, 6:54 pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net wrote:
Shhhh! said:

I do hope 2pid's alright.

Wow, that's a surprise. But fear not, he just went in for a checkup:http://www.kylepettitart.com/idiot_test.jpg

(Note that Scottie used a coupon for $1 off.)

So what you really mean is that 2pid paid $6 for the test.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Aug 19, 8:52 pm, Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
wrote:
As usual, when there is something which runs counter to 2pid's 'logic'
and 'points,' he simply ignores it.

2pid is having a hard time processing that the Iraqis are not behaving
as we'd wish.

On Aug 15, 9:35 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote in message
You think there'll be a regional Sunni vs Shia war ?
I think it's a possibility if we pull out prematurely and let them
have at it.

What do we have to do with it, 2pid?

"Despite U.S. claims that violence is down in the Iraqi capital, U.S.
military officers are offering a bleak picture of Iraq's future,
saying they've yet to see any signs of reconciliation between Sunni
and Shiite Muslims despite the drop in violence."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20..._attn_national...

(Once again, military officers agreeing with me, not 2pid. Perhaps
this "Starship Trooper" 2pid keeps moaning about is not such a bad
idea.)

More fodder for 2pid's bloggers:

"HANOI, Vietnam - President Bush touched a nerve among Vietnamese when
he invoked the Vietnam War in a speech warning that death and chaos
will envelop Iraq if U.S. troops leave too quickly.

People in Vietnam, where opposition to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq
is strong, said Thursday that Bush drew the wrong conclusions from the
long, bloody Southeast Asian conflict."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070823/...tnam_iraq_bush

I expect we'll see that this is either MSM spin, a misinterpretation
of the 'fact' that if the US had stayed in Vietnam longer the
inevitable would have been avoided, or we'll see that the topic is
avoided completely. Slightly less probable is a claim that the
majority of Vietnamese have been brainwashed, or that they actually
*support* the US invasion of Iraq, but cannot say so due to the
influence of the Godless Communists.

It's interesting what stupidity can do to a person, isn't it, 2pid?