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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?


I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place
to buy it (in small amounts)? Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin
none.


Can't be bothered searching Maplin's dreadful site, but the last cat.
of theirs I have has lots in different colours. Try VU29


'sorry no products found'. :-(
I think they used to stock the Van Damme stuff (which seems to be quite high
quality: neoprene/pvc) at quite a good price if google is anything to go by


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Don Pearce wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.


What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.


You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)


More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.


Just stay away from live sound will you ? You'd have lawsuits from all the ppl
who tripped over the reels.

Graham

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jasee wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
jasee wrote:

All my mic cables are star quad. It's not that much more expensive
than good ordinary stuff so why take a risk?


I've never heard of star quad until now, it looks like a very good
idea for balanced micrphone leads in particulr, where's a good place
to buy it (in small amounts)? Farnell list a couple of types, Maplin
none.


Can't be bothered searching Maplin's dreadful site, but the last cat.
of theirs I have has lots in different colours. Try VU29


'sorry no products found'. :-(
I think they used to stock the Van Damme stuff (which seems to be quite high
quality: neoprene/pvc) at quite a good price if google is anything to go by


VDC and Farnell both sell Van Damme.

VDC's (see my post ) price is about half Farnell's.

A no-brainer really.

Graham


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On Sat, 26 May 2007 19:11:54 GMT, Eeyore
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Don Pearce wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.

What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)


More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.


Just stay away from live sound will you ? You'd have lawsuits from all the ppl
who tripped over the reels.

Graham


The reels stay nicely tucked away under the desk - nobody is going to
trip over them.

d

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Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.

What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)

More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.


Just stay away from live sound will you ? You'd have lawsuits from all the ppl
who tripped over the reels.



The reels stay nicely tucked away under the desk - nobody is going to
trip over them.


Yes, you're clearly not familiar with live sound at all.

Graham



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On Sat, 26 May 2007 19:52:59 GMT, Eeyore
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Don Pearce wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
But do they sell by the meter? Jasee seems to want only a small amount.

What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)

More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.

Just stay away from live sound will you ? You'd have lawsuits from all the ppl
who tripped over the reels.



The reels stay nicely tucked away under the desk - nobody is going to
trip over them.


Yes, you're clearly not familiar with live sound at all.


Only from the playing point of vie, I'm afraid.

d

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In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.


You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)


More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.


Cable reels are a PITA - they take up far too much room - and long cables
are rarely needed anyway in my sort of job. If you had a long run you'd
use a snake since you'll likely need more than one circuit, even on a
basic single camera drama shoot.

The only drum I use regularly is for a stereo FX mic which gets run out
some way off. I use a single stereo cable on that - and tails to go
from a 5 pin XLR on the drum to the mixer. The reason for the drum is
simple - the cable gets filthy. ;-)

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Cable reels are a PITA - they take up far too much room - and long cables
are rarely needed anyway in my sort of job. If you had a long run you'd
use a snake since you'll likely need more than one circuit, even on a
basic single camera drama shoot.



Except the commonest form of snake in live situations is on a reel.
Studiospares best selling snake is:

http://www.studiospares.com/pd_58908...0324%2050m.htm

Ian
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On Sun, 27 May 2007 00:31:46 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
What you do with mic cable is buy a reel and put a connector on each
end. When you just want a small amount, you don't unwind it. When you
want a lot, you unwind it. Easy.

You've not been involved much with mic cables, have you? ;-)


More than I care to say. Actually I would modify what I wrote. I
divide the reel into two, and make a stereo pair wound on the reel. I
unwind that as needed. I leave a few feet hanging out of the middle so
I can plug into the mixer easily.


Cable reels are a PITA - they take up far too much room - and long cables
are rarely needed anyway in my sort of job. If you had a long run you'd
use a snake since you'll likely need more than one circuit, even on a
basic single camera drama shoot.

The only drum I use regularly is for a stereo FX mic which gets run out
some way off. I use a single stereo cable on that - and tails to go
from a 5 pin XLR on the drum to the mixer. The reason for the drum is
simple - the cable gets filthy. ;-)


Your circumstances are different to mine. In a studio you can
generally just grab a cable of the right length for the job off the
rack and run it out. I don't have that kind of storage room, so all my
cables are as long as I think I will ever need them (although I did
have to join three end to end once). I don't want to store them in a
loose loop either - that takes too much space as well. So they live on
reels in a cupboard. Sure I could run them right off the reels when I
deploy them, but because they are long they would then be snaking all
over the floor.

So there is method in my madness - where needs must, you find the best
way.

d

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Ian Bell wrote:
Cable reels are a PITA - they take up far too much room - and long
cables are rarely needed anyway in my sort of job. If you had a long
run you'd use a snake since you'll likely need more than one circuit,
even on a basic single camera drama shoot.



Except the commonest form of snake in live situations is on a reel.
Studiospares best selling snake is:


http://www.studiospares.com/pd_58908...0324%2050m.htm


Well I don't buy in any cables. And the same applies to snakes as singles
- on a drum they take up far more room - and take more time to rig and
derig. The other problem with a drum is if you wish to run out a little
more you have to go to the drum and unplug it before doing so. A snake etc
that is laid out in a figure of eight makes this simple.

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"Ian Bell" wrote in message


Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


Cable reels are a PITA


Most people I know think so.

- they take up far too much room
- and long cables are rarely needed anyway in my sort of
job.


I don't know about that. My live sound snakes are 2 x 150, 1 x 100, 1 x 50.

If you had a long run you'd use a snake since
you'll likely need more than one circuit, even on a
basic single camera drama shoot.


Except the commonest form of snake in live situations is
on a reel.


??????????

Studiospares best selling snake is:

http://www.studiospares.com/pd_58908...0324%2050m.htm


The exception does not prove a rule.


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