"Lionel" wrote in message
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George M. Middius a écrit :

Robert Morein said:


Does anyone have contact info for Krueger's church?
I'd like to throw him a call.


http://www.gpbc.org/


People have threatened to rat out the Kroo to his pastor before, but
nobody
has ever followed through.


This sounds like a challenge to Bob, no ?

It's something I have no problem doing. I would let Arny's posts do most of
the talking. I would simply outline the problem in the most elementary
terms, which is Arny's decoration of his posts, many of which contain useful
information, with gratuitous verbal aggression, and the apparent desire to
dominate this milieu.. I am not seeking to criminalize Arny. However,
gratuitous verbal aggression is a sign of a disturbance of the spirit, which
most pastoral workers consider within their purview.

If, at any point, anyone feels motivated to get this information, I promise
it will not lie fallow.

Much to McCarty's regret, I am not shy about talking on the phone.

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...

It's something I have no problem doing. I would let Arny's posts do most
of the talking. I would simply outline the problem in the most elementary
terms, which is Arny's decoration of his posts, many of which contain
useful information, with gratuitous verbal aggression, and the apparent
desire to dominate this milieu.. I am not seeking to criminalize Arny.
However, gratuitous verbal aggression is a sign of a disturbance of the
spirit, which most pastoral workers consider within their purview.

Hi Rob!

Arnii has posted this information before so I'm sure it is out there.
However, I would think twice before involving outsiders into this mess. Do
you think for a moment that his church doesn't know what an utterly sick
asshole he is? He has said before that he hangs out with his priest all the
time. Go figure.

I think it would be more illuminating if you went to meet him mano a mano to
sort out your differences. I believe a former RAO poster Mark Philips did
something like that and almost sent Krueger to the orbit.


If, at any point, anyone feels motivated to get this information, I
promise it will not lie fallow.

Much to McCarty's regret, I am not shy about talking on the phone.


But that would be boring for the rest of us...unless....... :-)


Cheers,

Margaret

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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It's something I have no problem doing. I would let Arny's posts do most
of the talking. I would simply outline the problem in the most elementary
terms, which is Arny's decoration of his posts, many of which contain
useful information, with gratuitous verbal aggression, and the apparent
desire to dominate this milieu.. I am not seeking to criminalize Arny.
However, gratuitous verbal aggression is a sign of a disturbance of the
spirit, which most pastoral workers consider within their purview.

Hi Rob!

Arnii has posted this information before so I'm sure it is out there.
However, I would think twice before involving outsiders into this mess. Do
you think for a moment that his church doesn't know what an utterly sick
asshole he is? He has said before that he hangs out with his priest all
the time. Go figure.

Margaret, maybe I'll get blown off, but I'm not sensitive. In fact, I'm
pretty much made of cast iron. If I do get blown off, I'll post how it came
down. Some people exhibit multiple personalities. Dennis Rader was a church
deacon. McCarty was a "businessman", who fooled a lot of people. Arny
acquitted himself in a dignified and competent manner in The Debate, and now
he's back to this.

I think it would be more illuminating if you went to meet him mano a mano
to sort out your differences. I believe a former RAO poster Mark Philips
did something like that and almost sent Krueger to the orbit.

My goals are quite modest. I want someone Arny respects to encourage him to
edit out the contempt, hate, and paranoia. The difference between Arny and
the rest of us is that he actually thinks he has enemies. In comparison,
George at his worst has a gadfly aspect to him. His are the multiple
pinpricks of a swarm of mosquitoes, while Arny's is a bite to the bone.

I can only speak for myself, but I'd break bread with anybody here.

If, at any point, anyone feels motivated to get this information, I
promise it will not lie fallow.

Much to McCarty's regret, I am not shy about talking on the phone.


But that would be boring for the rest of us...unless....... :-)

I do have a McCarty recording, obtained off an answering machine (which
makes it legal), which I will be happy to send to anybody in whose email
address I have reasonable confidence. I don't tape where there are legal
question marks. However, I am still eager to hear The Tape, which as the
late, lamented Devil says, "shows Arny is a genuinely nasty man."

Cheers,

Margaret

Robert Morein said:

I do have a McCarty recording, obtained off an answering machine (which
makes it legal), which I will be happy to send to anybody in whose email
address I have reasonable confidence.

I would like to hear it. You can email to this address.

"Margaret von B."
wrote in message


I think it would be more illuminating if you went to meet
him mano a mano to sort out your differences.

Interesting concept. Atkinson could have met with me "mano a
mano" on any of 3 days at HE2005 to sort out our
differences. While I did meet with one or more Stereophile
staffers at HE2005, Atkinson hid from me.

I believe a
former RAO poster Mark Philips did something like that
and almost sent Krueger to the orbit.

Philips once posted here that he stalked me at my house in
Grosse Pointe. He was way to chicken to actually try to meet
with me. He was also probably lying because he got a lot of
details about my house wrong.

Bottom line - the whole lot of you talk big on Usenet, but
in real life you're all a bunch of whimps.

Arny Krueger wrote:
Atkinson could have met with me "mano a mano" on
any of 3 days at HE2005 to sort out our differences.

I wonder who that it is with me in the photo "above the
fold" at http://www.stereophile.com/news/050905debate/ .
Could it be Arny Krueger, I wonder?

While I did meet with one or more Stereophile
staffers at HE2005, Atkinson hid from me.

In plain sight. :-)

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

"John Atkinson" wrote in message
oups.com...

Arny Krueger wrote:
Atkinson could have met with me "mano a mano" on
any of 3 days at HE2005 to sort out our differences.

I wonder who that it is with me in the photo "above the
fold" at http://www.stereophile.com/news/050905debate/ .
Could it be Arny Krueger, I wonder?

While I did meet with one or more Stereophile
staffers at HE2005, Atkinson hid from me.

In plain sight. :-)



Who is that Disco Man?
I can't get enough of those wide shirt lapels
hanging over his coat.

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

"John Atkinson" wrote in message
oups.com...

Arny Krueger wrote:
Atkinson could have met with me "mano a mano" on
any of 3 days at HE2005 to sort out our differences.

I wonder who that it is with me in the photo "above the
fold" at http://www.stereophile.com/news/050905debate/ .
Could it be Arny Krueger, I wonder?

While I did meet with one or more Stereophile
staffers at HE2005, Atkinson hid from me.

In plain sight. :-)



Who is that Disco Man?
I can't get enough of those wide shirt lapels
hanging over his coat.



It could simply be a hospital uniform, you know....

Cheers,

Margaret

"John Atkinson" wrote in message
oups.com...

Arny Krueger wrote:
Atkinson could have met with me "mano a mano" on
any of 3 days at HE2005 to sort out our differences.

I wonder who that it is with me in the photo "above the
fold" at http://www.stereophile.com/news/050905debate/ .


Hi John,

Why are you staring at a horse's ass?

Where's Arny?


Could it be Arny Krueger, I wonder?

Nooooooo.....really? Is that Arny?


Cheers,

Margaret

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:56:34 GMT, "Margaret von B."
wrote:


"John Atkinson" wrote in message
roups.com...

Arny Krueger wrote:
Atkinson could have met with me "mano a mano" on
any of 3 days at HE2005 to sort out our differences.

I wonder who that it is with me in the photo "above the
fold" at http://www.stereophile.com/news/050905debate/ .

What's surprising is that this article seems to claim that Arnold is
63. I didn't know that he was that old.

Cue oldster Lionel's gratuitous retort about MY age.

"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:56:34 GMT, "Margaret von B."
wrote:


"John Atkinson" wrote in message
groups.com...

Arny Krueger wrote:
Atkinson could have met with me "mano a mano" on
any of 3 days at HE2005 to sort out our differences.

I wonder who that it is with me in the photo "above the
fold" at http://www.stereophile.com/news/050905debate/ .

What's surprising is that this article seems to claim that Arnold is
63. I didn't know that he was that old.

Cue oldster Lionel's gratuitous retort about MY age.

I thought he was 58, maybe 59 by now.

Margaret von B. said:

Nooooooo.....really? Is that Arny?

The face matches the voice, doesn't it?

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 12:15:35 -0500, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



Margaret von B. said:

Nooooooo.....really? Is that Arny?

The face matches the voice, doesn't it?

We haven't seen yours yet, George.

Something to look forward to, eh?

"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
oups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
Atkinson could have met with me "mano a mano" on
any of 3 days at HE2005 to sort out our differences.

I wonder who that it is with me in the photo "above the
fold" at http://www.stereophile.com/news/050905debate/ .
Could it be Arny Krueger, I wonder?

That was a formal meeting with a very narrowly stated
purpose.

While I did meet with one or more Stereophile
staffers at HE2005, Atkinson hid from me.

In plain sight. :-)

While hiding behind a meeting's agenda.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
oups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
Atkinson could have met with me "mano a mano" on
any of 3 days at HE2005 to sort out our differences.

I wonder who that it is with me in the photo "above the
fold" at http://www.stereophile.com/news/050905debate/ .
Could it be Arny Krueger, I wonder?

That was a formal meeting with a very narrowly stated purpose.

While I did meet with one or more Stereophile
staffers at HE2005, Atkinson hid from me.

In plain sight. :-)

While hiding behind a meeting's agenda.


Get over yourself, Arny. Is it possible John had other things
to worry about that weekend? You both should be commended
for representing your viewpoints well.

At least he is always a nice guy and a gentleman. The same can't be
said of you.

"surf" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"John Atkinson" wrote
in message
oups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
Atkinson could have met with me "mano a mano" on
any of 3 days at HE2005 to sort out our differences.

I wonder who that it is with me in the photo "above the
fold" at http://www.stereophile.com/news/050905debate/ .
Could it be Arny Krueger, I wonder?

That was a formal meeting with a very narrowly stated
purpose.
While I did meet with one or more Stereophile
staffers at HE2005, Atkinson hid from me.

In plain sight. :-)

While hiding behind a meeting's agenda.


Get over yourself, Arny. Is it possible John had other
things to worry about that weekend?

Given Atkinson's state of preparation which was close to
zilch, there's obvious evidence to support that viewpoint.

Robert Morein said:

I would let Arny's posts do most of
the talking. I would simply outline the problem in the most elementary
terms, which is Arny's decoration of his posts, many of which contain useful
information, with gratuitous verbal aggression, and the apparent desire to
dominate this milieu.

I believe Mr. **** just claimed somebody already ratted him out to his
pastor. It could be that Turdy is ... confused, let's say, about which
authority figure received the reports of his nastiness. Marc Phillips said
several times he reported the Beast's apparent pedophiliac tendencies to
the police. Given™ Krooger's overall mental imbalance, it's quite possible
he is unable to distinguish the police from his pastor.

Or perhaps Mr. **** will share some details of the incident he alleges. Who
got the pastor involved? How long ago? What did this person accuse Mr. ****
of doing or saying? Tell us everything, Arnii. I promise we won't lose any
respect for you. ;-)

On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 20:24:20 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

It's something I have no problem doing. I would let Arny's posts do most of
the talking. I would simply outline the problem in the most elementary
terms, which is Arny's decoration of his posts, many of which contain useful
information, with gratuitous verbal aggression, and the apparent desire to
dominate this milieu.. I am not seeking to criminalize Arny. However,
gratuitous verbal aggression is a sign of a disturbance of the spirit, which
most pastoral workers consider within their purview.

If, at any point, anyone feels motivated to get this information, I promise
it will not lie fallow.

Much to McCarty's regret, I am not shy about talking on the phone.

Taking this stuff into "real life" is rather stupid and venal, if you
want to know the truth.

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 20:24:20 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

It's something I have no problem doing. I would let Arny's posts do most
of
the talking. I would simply outline the problem in the most elementary
terms, which is Arny's decoration of his posts, many of which contain
useful
information, with gratuitous verbal aggression, and the apparent desire to
dominate this milieu.. I am not seeking to criminalize Arny. However,
gratuitous verbal aggression is a sign of a disturbance of the spirit,
which
most pastoral workers consider within their purview.

If, at any point, anyone feels motivated to get this information, I
promise
it will not lie fallow.

Much to McCarty's regret, I am not shy about talking on the phone.

Taking this stuff into "real life" is rather stupid and venal, if you
want to know the truth.

Absolutely agreed

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 20:24:20 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

It's something I have no problem doing. I would let Arny's posts do most
of
the talking. I would simply outline the problem in the most elementary
terms, which is Arny's decoration of his posts, many of which contain
useful
information, with gratuitous verbal aggression, and the apparent desire to
dominate this milieu.. I am not seeking to criminalize Arny. However,
gratuitous verbal aggression is a sign of a disturbance of the spirit,
which
most pastoral workers consider within their purview.

If, at any point, anyone feels motivated to get this information, I
promise
it will not lie fallow.

Much to McCarty's regret, I am not shy about talking on the phone.

Taking this stuff into "real life" is rather stupid and venal, if you
want to know the truth.

It something Bwian would do.Bob should be better than that.
Same as I was opposed to the Wheeler lawsuit.

"dave weil" wrote ...
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 20:24:20 -0500, "Robert Morein"

Much to McCarty's regret, I am not shy about talking on the phone.

Taking this stuff into "real life" is rather stupid and venal, if you
want to know the truth.

Agreed. Why would you want to lower yourself to the level
of McCarty or Malesweski?? Can't you make your points here
on equal ground?

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 02:18:48 -0600, dave weil
wrote:

On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 20:24:20 -0500, "Robert Morein"
wrote:

It's something I have no problem doing. I would let Arny's posts do most of
the talking. I would simply outline the problem in the most elementary
terms, which is Arny's decoration of his posts, many of which contain useful
information, with gratuitous verbal aggression, and the apparent desire to
dominate this milieu.. I am not seeking to criminalize Arny. However,
gratuitous verbal aggression is a sign of a disturbance of the spirit, which
most pastoral workers consider within their purview.

If, at any point, anyone feels motivated to get this information, I promise
it will not lie fallow.

Much to McCarty's regret, I am not shy about talking on the phone.

Taking this stuff into "real life" is rather stupid and venal, if you
want to know the truth.


A similar debate is going on now on aus.hi-fi re Phil Allison, who has
been making unwanted phone calls to another poster. I'm absolutely
opposed to taking usenet business outside usenet unless a crime is
being/is about to be committed.