"ScottW" said:

Please vote for the Wilder Group (just for the name if nothing else ).

http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/sto...20001402.shtml

Mr. Geert Wilders has only one point on his party program.
His faction will be large enough without me voting for him.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"ScottW" said:

Please vote for the Wilder Group (just for the name if nothing else ).

http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/sto...20001402.shtml

Mr. Geert Wilders has only one point on his party program.
His faction will be large enough without me voting for him.

If we had a party that had that one point, halting illegal immigration, on
their party program, they would get my vote.

ScottW

"ScottW" said:

Mr. Geert Wilders has only one point on his party program.
His faction will be large enough without me voting for him.

If we had a party that had that one point, halting illegal immigration, on
their party program, they would get my vote.

There are more problems to be solved in our country than just that.
Besides, apart from the far leftwing parties, every party is at last
convinced we have to do something about illegal and even legal
immigration and integration of same.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 11:50:50 -0500, George M. Middius
wrote:



dave weil said:

I wish to note that Aronld is so far gone, he can't even tell satire
and wordplay from reality.

Now give us the "fair and balanced" version. Oh, wait.....

Well, it might be helpful if I spelled his name correctly...

McKelvy said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
McKelvy said:

The trouble with Child Pornography is in your mind.


Why the capitalization? You know what Freud said.


That you are a what you eat?

I doubt he said "You are a what you eat." He was known for smoking opium,
however, so it's possible.

Boon

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 04:16:43 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Early to bed, early to wise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise.

Unfortunately, you've never quite arrived to wise, much less gotten
there early.

Delusions of omnisicence noted.

McKelvy said:

What is there to remember, aside from what YOU believe. You got nothin'.
Ain't proved nothin'. But you have it on authority of someone you don't even
know for sure exists. Nice.

Actually, Arny's crime was committed in its completion right here on RAO. I
gave the proof to you. Then you lied about having read it. Then you spun and
spun and spun. So it became very clear to everyone here that you have an
agenda when it comes to Arny's pedophilia.

And yet you remian here, knowing perfectly well what people think about you.
How very strange.

Boon

Arny said

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Trevor said:

So, Arny, how did you vote?


Convicted felons can't vote, silly.

With all your purported contacts at my city hall Phillips, I'm
surprised you didn't check to see whether or not I'm a registered
voter.

BTW, I am, and I've served on juries as well.

All before your trouble with the child pornography, I'm sure.

Why not tell the nice folks the specifics of that alleged *trouble*,
Marc.

Why? Do you think everyone forgot? Or do you just hope they did?

But it still doesn't explain why you haven't answered the
question. Are you
ashamed of your vote?

Thanks for admitting that I voted, Marc.

I didn't admit that you voted.

Sure you did, fool!

You just made yourself into a
liar, again!

No, I didn't.

Denial of obvious facts, noted.

You're a moron.

Yup, the Marc Phillips defense. When caught in a lie or stupid claim, just
come back with childish insults. Did you make this up on your own Marc, or
did Middius have to teach you how to do it?

You didn't catch me in a lie. In fact, you haven't even explained what that
lie is. In fact, this is all nonsense, and just goes to show how much you are
addicted to arguing with strangers on Usenet.

Tell you what. As a reality check, show Susan this exchange (that is, if she's
still brave enough to come into the room whenever you call her). Tell her,
"hey, see how I caught this guy in a lie!" Then looked at her pained facial
expressions. Then get back to me, you ****ing Internet geek.

Boon

Arny said:

It's well-known around here that I'm a hetrosexual male in a long-term
relationship.

It's well known that this is the cover story, you mean.

Boon

Arny said:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:09:02 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

You didn't say "working for". You said "working". That's how I was
able to make a joke. I know, Mikey, the English language is a bear
sometimes.

Only after being twisted through that maze you call a mind. There
are lots of ways to "work" the resorts that have nothing to do with
criminal activity.

Jesus man, it was just a ****ing joke. It was not a claim of fact, you
moron.

Let's call this the Marc Phillips type response. When caught in a lie, just
come back with ferocious insults.

How would you know? You've never caught me in a lie.

I do assault you with ferocious insults, because you seem immune to reasoning
and logic.

Boon

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 08:47:17 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:09:02 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

You didn't say "working for". You said "working". That's how I was
able to make a joke. I know, Mikey, the English language is a bear
sometimes.

Only after being twisted through that maze you call a mind. There are
lots
of ways to "work" the resorts that have nothing to do with criminal
activity.

Jesus man, it was just a ****ing joke. It was not a claim of fact, you
moron.

Sorry the humor module in my CRT isn't functioning. There was no way to
separate it from all the other snide remarks.

Yes, apparently you need to take a vacation if you think that I was
actually accusing you of knowing high-end prostitutes in Vail. First
of all, you don't have the wherewithal to run in those circles.

It's not wherwithal, it's lack of need.

But
more importantly, I really don't believe that you know any
prostitutes.


Like I'd tell you.

Gad, it's a horrible thing to have to explain these things.

Covering your lies?


I really think you should take a break.

I'm fine, thanks, but if you need to go, be my guest.

Please take Arnold with you.

No. the comute is too much.

You can play endless games of Go Fish while the kids make giant
American flag sandpaintings on the beach.

Sounds nice but, watching you guys squirm is more fun for me.

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:42:28 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 04:16:43 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Early to bed, early to wise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise.

Unfortunately, you've never quite arrived to wise, much less gotten
there early.

Delusions of omnisicence noted.

Since there's no such word that describes the delusion that you are
prattering about, I think we'll just dismiss you now.

"Law of Storms" wrote in message
...
Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Law of Storms" wrote in message
...

Michael McKelvy wrote:


There is evidence that Shrub drank quite a lot, by self-admission.


But we don't know what his subjective estimation of quite a lot is.

Not really relevant. When a man says he drinks too much and has to make a
life changing decision to stop, you can bet it wasn't a martini after
dinner then home to bed.



I don't suspect it was, but there's no way to know what he meant by too
much. Coulda been a 6 pack a day, could been a case. One mans idea of
too much is not necessarily the same as another's. Just glad to see he
got over it.

He didn't stop drinking because he caught the god bug. He stopped because
he was out of control.

That's a whole lot more than a six pack.





Trevor thinks we should by into his firmly enshrined belief that Bush is
addled from drugs and alcohol. I simply offered up some information I
have from eyewitnesses to Kerry's drug use when he was hanging out in
Vail. It worth every bit as much as Trevor's conviction. Nothing.

I affirm that Bush is quite addled, but haven't a clue to its origin.


More correctly, you beleive it.

I affirm it. Listen to him talk.


Excessive alcohol consumption alone can lead to

considerable nerve and brain damage and dysfunction.


Look at Teddy Kennedy, I'd wager he had more booze and more time than
Dubya ever did. I remember a gag ad in National Lampoon. A take off on
those old VW bug commercials. It showed a VW floating in a lake with the
caption: "If Ted Kennedy had been driving a Volkswagon, he'd be
President."

Funny stuff.

Alcohol does not effect everyone the same in terms of nerve and cell
dgeneration.

Some have a much lower threshold for sustaining permanent damage.



You claim to have eyewitnesses. Trevor does not.


Both claims are still meaningless at the end of the day.

No.

You claim to have knowledge of eyewitnesses. Trevor does not claim such.




The burden of proof is now upon you to cough up these witnesses. After
all, Kewrry still holds a seat as Senator, and the people have a right to
know.


If the people wanted to come forward tehy'd have done so.

You could force the issue.

As an American, it might be said it is your duty to do so.

What if Kerry ran and won in 2008?

Bwahahaha. Hilary will run him over first.

You could be on Fox!


Bigh whoop!

I thought you'd be overjoyed!

It's a news channel, I'm not interested in being news.

Maybe one of th ebleached blonde babes will interview you!


I'll hold out for Paula Zahn.

Eeewwgh!

????????????????????????????

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 08:57:21 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:13:12 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

There's evidence that Bush drank some, there's nothing but anecdotes on
drug
use, yet the loony left takes that as proof.

Sort of like what we're hearing from you right now.

Exactly.

So, you were trying to prove that someone was making a logical error
by making the same error yourself? I'm not sure if that's a great
strategy unless you are prepared to tar yourself in the process.

You think my reputation will suffer?

"Law of Storms" wrote in message
...
Michael McKelvy wrote:

gigantic snip

You

may disagree with Democrats, but at least they can be reaosned with.


Bwahahaha. You crack me up. And I don't mean the spelling error.

It was a typographical error, my friend. I let several of yours slide in
other posts.

I was letting them all go, I just didn't want you to think that was what I
thought was funny.

Glad I can make you laugh. Enjoy your theocracy.


I'd be leading the resistance if I thought such a thing were happening.

Enjoy you delusions and your party's irrelevance.

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:14:30 -0600, Law of Storms
wrote:

Michael McKelvy wrote:

gigantic snip

You

may disagree with Democrats, but at least they can be reaosned with.


Bwahahaha. You crack me up. And I don't mean the spelling error.

It was a typographical error, my friend. I let several of
yours slide in other posts.

Glad I can make you laugh. Enjoy your theocracy.

Don't you mean thecoracy?

Dyslexic guy is depressed and decides to kill himself, so he jumps behind a
bus.

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Michael McKelvy" said:

That would be the only way he could win a debate.
Have you ever *seen* a Citroen?

Only car uglier than both an Edsel and those weird-ass Studebakers.

Even uglier than a Villager? ;-)

--
Oh hell yes.

"Law of Storms" wrote in message
...
Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...

"Schizoid Man" wrote in message
...

"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message


Less fuel for *******s like you, who "know" everything.

*******s? Is your rhetoric getting harsher? Or are you just getting
cranky
in your old age?

**Mikey served with Aussies in Vietnam. He knows that calling an Aussie a
*******, is a term of endearment.




Sorry I met a few in the snack bar occaisonally, but never had the
pleasure of serving with them. More like near them.


Which service were you in?


Army

--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
McKelvy said:

What is there to remember, aside from what YOU believe. You got nothin'.
Ain't proved nothin'. But you have it on authority of someone you don't
even
know for sure exists. Nice.

Actually, Arny's crime was committed in its completion right here on RAO.
I
gave the proof to you.

No you didn't, you gave me a story you wanted me to believe.

Then you lied about having read it.

No, I didn't.

Then you spun and
spun and spun. So it became very clear to everyone here that you have an
agenda when it comes to Arny's pedophilia.

My agenda is that you offered no proof.

And yet you remian here, knowing perfectly well what people think about
you.
How very strange.

I stopped worrying about what people think of me when I was about 12.
I know what I think about myself and that's much more important. You should
try it.

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:34:55 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 08:57:21 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:13:12 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

There's evidence that Bush drank some, there's nothing but anecdotes on
drug
use, yet the loony left takes that as proof.

Sort of like what we're hearing from you right now.

Exactly.

So, you were trying to prove that someone was making a logical error
by making the same error yourself? I'm not sure if that's a great
strategy unless you are prepared to tar yourself in the process.

You think my reputation will suffer?

Good point.

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 11/20/2004 10:42 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 04:16:43 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Early to bed, early to wise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise.

Unfortunately, you've never quite arrived to wise, much less gotten
there early.

Delusions of omnisicence noted.



One does not have to be omniscient to look at your posts and figure out that
you are not a wise person.

dave weil wrote:

I really think you should take a break. Please take Arnold with you.
You can play endless games of Go Fish while the kids make giant
American flag sandpaintings on the beach.

Holy crap!

--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

dave weil wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 02:48:32 -0600, Law of Storms
wrote:

Have you ever *seen* a Citroen?


Of course he has. He's seen every year, model, equipment package, and
color of every car ever made, and many that were just figments of
schizophrenics' imaginations. Plus, he watched the first season of
Buffy the Vampire Slayer before he had to give it up because of the
dreams.

That would make him an Echthspert on automobiles.

I watched Buffy for a while, too, but the difficulty with
the dreams thus provoked was slightly different than Arnold's.

I got tired of all the laundry.


--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

dave weil wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 03:14:30 -0600, Law of Storms
wrote:


Michael McKelvy wrote:

gigantic snip

You


may disagree with Democrats, but at least they can be reaosned with.


Bwahahaha. You crack me up. And I don't mean the spelling error.

It was a typographical error, my friend. I let several of
yours slide in other posts.

Glad I can make you laugh. Enjoy your theocracy.


Don't you mean thecoracy?

Amend that to read "Decoracy."

Spike heels and sequins are in again this year.

--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

ScottW wrote:
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...

"ScottW" said:


Please vote for the Wilder Group (just for the name if nothing else ).

http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/sto...20001402.shtml

Mr. Geert Wilders has only one point on his party program.
His faction will be large enough without me voting for him.


If we had a party that had that one point, halting illegal immigration, on
their party program, they would get my vote.

That used to be the Republican party.

Oops.

Cheap labor.

Never mind.


--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

Michael McKelvy wrote:

The burden of proof is now upon you to cough up these witnesses. After
all, Kewrry still holds a seat as Senator, and the people have a right to
know.


If the people wanted to come forward tehy'd have done so.

You could force the issue.

As an American, it might be said it is your duty to do so.

What if Kerry ran and won in 2008?


Bwahahaha. Hilary will run him over first.

Hillary won't be running in 2008, contrary to the fevered
fantasies of the right wingnuts.


You could be on Fox!


Bigh whoop!

I thought you'd be overjoyed!


It's a news channel, I'm not interested in being news.

It's an entertaiment and propaganda channel.

Whole different ball of wax.


Maybe one of th ebleached blonde babes will interview you!


I'll hold out for Paula Zahn.

Eeewwgh!


????????????????????????????

She's a dog.

--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 15:42:55 -0600, Law of Storms
wrote:

dave weil wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 02:48:32 -0600, Law of Storms
wrote:

Have you ever *seen* a Citroen?


Of course he has. He's seen every year, model, equipment package, and
color of every car ever made, and many that were just figments of
schizophrenics' imaginations. Plus, he watched the first season of
Buffy the Vampire Slayer before he had to give it up because of the
dreams.

That would make him an Echthspert on automobiles.

I watched Buffy for a while, too, but the difficulty with
the dreams thus provoked was slightly different than Arnold's.

I got tired of all the laundry.

I never would have thought that Mr. Giles would be such a sheet turner
for you.

Of course, the actor's name *is* Head after all.

"Shoot me, stuff me, mount me" - Xander Harris.

Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Law of Storms" wrote in message
...

Michael McKelvy wrote:

gigantic snip

You


may disagree with Democrats, but at least they can be reaosned with.


Bwahahaha. You crack me up. And I don't mean the spelling error.

It was a typographical error, my friend. I let several of yours slide in
other posts.


I was letting them all go, I just didn't want you to think that was what I
thought was funny.

Oh.



Glad I can make you laugh. Enjoy your theocracy.



I'd be leading the resistance if I thought such a thing were happening.

Then think, and think hard on this.


Enjoy you delusions and your party's irrelevance.

My "party" is not my own any longer. I've known this for
better than ten years. As to delusions, all of this denial
about the Godding up of our secular government will dawn on
you, right around the time the flames begin licking at your
feet.


--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Law of Storms" wrote in message
...

Michael McKelvy wrote:

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...


"Schizoid Man" wrote in message
...


"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message



Less fuel for *******s like you, who "know" everything.

*******s? Is your rhetoric getting harsher? Or are you just getting
cranky
in your old age?

**Mikey served with Aussies in Vietnam. He knows that calling an Aussie a
*******, is a term of endearment.




Sorry I met a few in the snack bar occaisonally, but never had the
pleasure of serving with them. More like near them.



Which service were you in?



Army

Drafted or volunteer?



--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

S888Wheel wrote:

One does not have to be omniscient to look at your posts and figure out that
you are not a wise person.

Heretic!


--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

dave weil wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 15:42:55 -0600, Law of Storms
wrote:


dave weil wrote:

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 02:48:32 -0600, Law of Storms
wrote:

Have you ever *seen* a Citroen?


Of course he has. He's seen every year, model, equipment package, and
color of every car ever made, and many that were just figments of
schizophrenics' imaginations. Plus, he watched the first season of
Buffy the Vampire Slayer before he had to give it up because of the
dreams.

That would make him an Echthspert on automobiles.

I watched Buffy for a while, too, but the difficulty with
the dreams thus provoked was slightly different than Arnold's.

I got tired of all the laundry.


I never would have thought that Mr. Giles would be such a sheet turner
for you.

it's the glasses and the accent. Sends shivers through my
scrotum.



Of course, the actor's name *is* Head after all.

pant pant

"Shoot me, stuff me, mount me" - Xander Harris.

Bringing out the heavy guns, are we?


--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

George M. Middius wrote:

Law of Storms said:


Don't you mean thecoracy?


Amend that to read "Decoracy."


In case you're interested, the Kroobeast practices "hypocracy". He's told
us so many times. Unless Goggle is lying™ again.

I was laboring under the impression that sex with hippos was
both messy and potentially fatal.

Arny is a very courageous lover.


--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

George M. Middius wrote:

Law of Storms said:


Hillary won't be running in 2008, contrary to the fevered
fantasies of the right wingnuts.


How can you be so sure? If the country is ready for a progressive in the
White House, and the Dems get their act together, she might build on the
support she already has and make a run for it.

For starters, Hillary is not a progressive Democrat. She's
the same species of middle of th eroadish corporate snuggler
that her husband was.

Second, she will not run. It's a simple equation. She is too
polarizing a figure, not enough appeal to a significant
portion of the party base (read left), she's female, and the
right wing slander machine has too much rich material and
too many abiding outlets to spread their rancid manure.

If she does run and wins the nomination she will be soundly
beaten in the general election.

--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

George M. Middius wrote:

Law of Storms said:


How can you be so sure? If the country is ready for a
progressive in the White House, and the Dems get
their act together, she might build on the support
she already has and make a run for it.

For starters, Hillary is not a progressive Democrat.
She's the same species of middle of th eroadish
corporate snuggler that her husband was.


I wouldn't be so certain. I can put an end to your
prognosticating and pontificating with the Kittycat Rule.
It's a very reliable predictor. Naturally, the kittycat
in question lives with me. Did he screech in terror when
Dubya talked during the debates? Yes he did. Did he purr
with contentment the last few times Hillary appeared on
the news? Yes he did.

Case closed.

You should have mentioned you had the feline crystal ball at
your disposal - I could have spared my chapped fingertips
the trouble.

I bought camos for my cats, and wrist rockets. It's gotten
kind of hairy for normal folk around here.


--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

Sander deWaal wrote:

Was that the sound of tubes exploding in the background?

checking
Nope, they're allright.

Stout tubes they must be to withstand the shock of you agreeing with Arny.

Must have been your artery cracking.

Yeah, sure, it must have been.

Or just another fanatical muslim shooting up a dutchman?

Public opinion is getting quite grim these days.

The liberal heartbeat of Europe cannot stand much more.

Burned down any mosques lately, Sander?

Not my style, sorry.
I file complaints to the City Council :-)

Please expond on this. What sort of complaints have you filed and
what sort of outcomes have resulted from them?


GeoSynch

"Law of Storms" wrote in message
...
dave weil wrote:

I really think you should take a break. Please take Arnold with you.
You can play endless games of Go Fish while the kids make giant
American flag sandpaintings on the beach.

Holy crap!

--
Only to the left, Crap is King.

"Law of Storms" wrote in message
...
Michael McKelvy wrote:

The burden of proof is now upon you to cough up these witnesses. After
all, Kewrry still holds a seat as Senator, and the people have a right
to know.


If the people wanted to come forward tehy'd have done so.

You could force the issue.

As an American, it might be said it is your duty to do so.

What if Kerry ran and won in 2008?


Bwahahaha. Hilary will run him over first.

Hillary won't be running in 2008, contrary to the fevered fantasies of the
right wingnuts.

We'll see.


You could be on Fox!


Bigh whoop!

I thought you'd be overjoyed!


It's a news channel, I'm not interested in being news.

It's an entertaiment and propaganda channel.

Like Air America?


Whole different ball of wax.


Maybe one of th ebleached blonde babes will interview you!


I'll hold out for Paula Zahn.

Eeewwgh!


????????????????????????????

She's a dog.

--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

ScottW wrote:


"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"ScottW" said:

Please vote for the Wilder Group (just for the name if nothing else ).

http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/sto...20001402.shtml

Mr. Geert Wilders has only one point on his party program.
His faction will be large enough without me voting for him.

If we had a party that had that one point, halting illegal immigration, on
their party program, they would get my vote.

"I want to keep my petty Eden clean ! *Understand* ?"


ScottW

Michael McKelvy wrote:

Hillary won't be running in 2008, contrary to the fevered fantasies of the
right wingnuts.


We'll see.

You'll see someone else running.



You could be on Fox!


Bigh whoop!

I thought you'd be overjoyed!


It's a news channel, I'm not interested in being news.

It's an entertaiment and propaganda channel.


Like Air America?

A sorry excuse as far as imitations go.

They aren't congential liars, so it makes for bad radio.




--
Law of Storms

"My God, it's full of stars..."

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:13:12 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

There's evidence that Bush drank some, there's nothing but anecdotes on drug
use, yet the loony left takes that as proof.

He said he hasn't used any illegal drugs since 1974, and when asked
about cocaine use he said he wouldn't comment on any youthful
indiscretions. I infer from this he used Cocaine at least once before
he turned 29.