Is anybody using this little thingy.For less then $200 too.

Rob

Rob O. wrote:

Is anybody using this little thingy.For less then $200 too.

I've tested it out. It performs well in most respects, but the way its
gain control circuit is set up, the low-frequency response depends on the
gain setting, and that really shouldn't be the case. As I recall (there's
a message here within the past year in which I posted my exact measurement
results), there were rather significant losses--3 to 5 dB down, maybe--at
the higher end of the gain range. (cf. "Google Groups Search")

Perhaps a simple capacitor substitution would fix that problem, though.

In article writes:

I've tested it out. It performs well in most respects, but the way its
gain control circuit is set up, the low-frequency response depends on the
gain setting, and that really shouldn't be the case.

The "world class" Mackie XDR preamps are the same way.

Perhaps a simple capacitor substitution would fix that problem, though.

It would, in the case of the Mackie, but it's not so simple because
there just isn't room for it. The designer designed it right but when
it came down to the "we can't sell it if it costs that much, you have
to cut something" that's what got cut. The rationalization (my words,
not Mackie's, who don't have any on the subject) is that with the gain
wide open, chances are there's going to be some low frequency ambient
noise that you're going to want to cut anyway. And at normal
rock-and-roll into-the-mic levels, the low frequency response is all
there. So in practice (and this may well be the case with the Rane
too) it isn't as bad as you'd like it to look.



--
I'm really Mike Rivers - )

Mike Rivers wrote:

The rationalization (my words,
not Mackie's, who don't have any on the subject) is that with the gain
wide open, chances are there's going to be some low frequency ambient
noise that you're going to want to cut anyway. And at normal
rock-and-roll into-the-mic levels, the low frequency response is all
there. So in practice (and this may well be the case with the Rane
too) it isn't as bad as you'd like it to look.

So just don't buy any ribbon mics? g Because there it sounds worse
than I'd like it to sound, Mackie-wise.

--
hank alrich * secret mountain
audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
"If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"

In article writes:

So just don't buy any ribbon mics? g Because there it sounds worse
than I'd like it to sound, Mackie-wise.

People who use ribbon mics wouldn't be caught dead with a Mackie just
on general principles (or at least shouldn't). Kind of like mixing 50
year old Scotch with Coca Cola.



--
I'm really Mike Rivers - )

Mike Rivers wrote:
People who use ribbon mics wouldn't be caught dead with a Mackie just
on general principles (or at least shouldn't).

not even with a decent mic pre?

Kind of like mixing 50 year old Scotch with Coca Cola.

except you don't "use up" a mic or mixer by hooking them to eachother.

--
Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." |
"Isn't an OS that openly and proudly admits to come directly from Holy
UNIX better than a cheap UNIX copycat that needs to be sued in court
to determine what the hell it really is?" -- Michael Sokolov

In article znr1057525719k@trad, Mike Rivers wrote:
In article writes:

So just don't buy any ribbon mics? g Because there it sounds worse
than I'd like it to sound, Mackie-wise.

People who use ribbon mics wouldn't be caught dead with a Mackie just
on general principles (or at least shouldn't). Kind of like mixing 50
year old Scotch with Coca Cola.

Sadly it happens to me a lot.
But the M-500 works surprisingly well into a Mackie. You can hear an example
on the penultimate RAP CD compilation. I find that going into a 1:1:1
transformer splitter unit actually improves the sound of ribbons a lot when
the PA console is a Mackie, although it doesn't do anything to improve the
noise floor.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Apparently, Roger Nichols likes it

http://www.musicgearnetwork.com/ubb/...c;f=2;t=005400


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Is anybody using this little thingy.For less then $200 too.

Rob