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Hi,

I own an HP h4350 Pocket PC. I have a 256mb chip that I use to store music
on. I would like to know, how does the sound quality of this unit compare
with the sound quality of the MP3 players out there, such as iRiver iHP or
iPod players. Thanks.


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BTW - I am aware that using good, efficient headphones is the key for these
portable players. My Sennheiser HD497's should be arriving on Saturday, at
which time I will post my results with them.

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Hi,

I own an HP h4350 Pocket PC. I have a 256mb chip that I use to store music
on. I would like to know, how does the sound quality of this unit compare
with the sound quality of the MP3 players out there, such as iRiver iHP or
iPod players. Thanks.




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"Asterix" wrote:

Hi,

I own an HP h4350 Pocket PC. I have a 256mb chip that I use to store music
on. I would like to know, how does the sound quality of this unit compare
with the sound quality of the MP3 players out there, such as iRiver iHP or
iPod players. Thanks.


My experience with the Tungsten T (after patching it for the early sound
bug, just to be clear) was that it was tolerable with bad headphones,
but not nearly so much with good headphones- the sound quality the unit
could produce was just not that great, but it wasn't as noticeable with
bad headphones. At anything other than too-low volume, it only got
worse (probably a decent outboard headphone amp could solve that, but I
carry enough gadgets already).

With the iPod, the difference is significant- any reasonable volume the
iPod plays with aplomb, never mind the vastly superior interface, faster
song transfers, faster charge times, longer-lasting charge... For me,
it was very much worth it.

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"Asterix" wrote in message


I own an HP h4350 Pocket PC. I have a 256mb chip that I use to store
music on. I would like to know, how does the sound quality of this
unit compare with the sound quality of the MP3 players out there,
such as iRiver iHP or iPod players. Thanks.


One of the problems with questions like this one is the fact that many
produce categories like portable MP3 players have proliferated to the point
where you may have trouble finding other people with the exact same
configuration. You may have to answer this question for yourself.

A MP3 player can be broken down into two components - the MP3 decoder and
the audio amplifier and controller sections. MP3 decoders tend to have
similar performance, the major differences are in the encoders, not the
decoders.

Portable music players do seem to have major differences in their amplifier
and controller sections. The most audible ones are related to how much
undistorted audio output that they are able to produce. The most common
complaint that I've heard relates to their ability to drive common
headphones loud enough to be enjoyable.

If you are technically inclined, there is some free software that could be
used to do some technical tests on the audio amplifier and controller
sections, using a PC's audio interface and an inexpensive digital voltmeter
for measuring equipment.


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When I plug my Sennheiser HD580's directly into my IPAQ, I have to turn the
volume onto maximum to get a comfortable listening
level and it definately sounds distorted. Hopefully the HD497's more
efficient drivers will give me acceptable sound and more volume. On my
MX500's (Sennheiser earbuds) the sound is O.K. There is enough volume, but
the sound is thin, tinny, and lacking in bass, due to the headphones.


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"Asterix" wrote in message


I own an HP h4350 Pocket PC. I have a 256mb chip that I use to store
music on. I would like to know, how does the sound quality of this
unit compare with the sound quality of the MP3 players out there,
such as iRiver iHP or iPod players. Thanks.


One of the problems with questions like this one is the fact that many
produce categories like portable MP3 players have proliferated to the

point
where you may have trouble finding other people with the exact same
configuration. You may have to answer this question for yourself.

A MP3 player can be broken down into two components - the MP3 decoder and
the audio amplifier and controller sections. MP3 decoders tend to have
similar performance, the major differences are in the encoders, not the
decoders.

Portable music players do seem to have major differences in their

amplifier
and controller sections. The most audible ones are related to how much
undistorted audio output that they are able to produce. The most common
complaint that I've heard relates to their ability to drive common
headphones loud enough to be enjoyable.

If you are technically inclined, there is some free software that could be
used to do some technical tests on the audio amplifier and controller
sections, using a PC's audio interface and an inexpensive digital

voltmeter
for measuring equipment.






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I'm not really satisfied with the sound I get from my MP3's. What other
formats can I use? AIFF?

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As I see it it's silly for a "MP3 player" to only be a MP3 player
(actually MP3s suck, but there are better compressed formats that are
fine for car or headphone listening). It has to have a CPU, ram, i/o,
a user interface, so it should also act as a PDA. However, it does not
need to be a cellphone or run any software written in or distributed
from the Seattle metro area.
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Hi,

Encoding at 256kbps will give you an exact "ear" replica of a PCM CD
sound... so, if a 256kbps mp3 does not satisfy you, the problem is
probably the audio output of the PDA...

I own an iPaq (Pocket PC 4150) and it sounds awsome, specially with good
quality light headphones (I use golden AIWA's personally, good DB
pressure for their size).

Kind Regards,
AMR
http://amr.no-ip.biz


Asterix wrote:

I'm not really satisfied with the sound I get from my MP3's. What other
formats can I use? AIFF?

"Sam Byrams" wrote in message
om...

As I see it it's silly for a "MP3 player" to only be a MP3 player
(actually MP3s suck, but there are better compressed formats that are
fine for car or headphone listening). It has to have a CPU, ram, i/o,
a user interface, so it should also act as a PDA. However, it does not
need to be a cellphone or run any software written in or distributed
from the Seattle metro area.
________________________________________________ __________________________

Putting MM on the dime would serve a lot of purposes. It would
displace the devious FDR, send a signal to the Islamist world, make
the currency more attractive, and be a thorn in the ass to the Kennedy
Family, to name four good ones.




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