[ScottW]

RAHE is now on hiatus until 9/10/2006.

--
David Bath - RAHE Co-moderator


Wonder what happened to the other moderator.
Or if David is the last of his kind .

ScottW

[Eeyore]

ScottW wrote:

RAHE is now on hiatus until 9/10/2006.

Can't say I'll miss it !

Graham

[George M. Middius]

Poopie brays in self-satisfied stupidity.

RAHE is now on hiatus until 9/10/2006.

Can't say I'll miss it !

You also missed your arse even when you had all four paws deployed in
trying to find it. You're a sad little bear, Poopie.




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Poopie brays in self-satisfied stupidity.

RAHE is now on hiatus until 9/10/2006.

Can't say I'll miss it !

You also missed your arse even when you had all four paws deployed in
trying to find it. You're a sad little bear, Poopie.

You're very strange.

Graham

[George M. Middius]

Poopie's toilet is running, running, running.

Can't say I'll miss it !

You also missed your arse even when you had all four paws deployed in
trying to find it. You're a sad little bear, Poopie.

You're very strange.

Didn't your Mama Bear teach you to keep your trap shut when you have
nothing to say? I'd refer you to a pithy remark on this subject that's
usually credited to Mark Twain, but of course you're terribly afraid of
reading nontechnical books.





--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Harry Lavo]

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...
RAHE is now on hiatus until 9/10/2006.

--
David Bath - RAHE Co-moderator


Wonder what happened to the other moderator.
Or if David is the last of his kind .

ScottW


David's been doing it by himself for over a year now. Asked for volunteers
to apply, but no takers.

IMO, David has a thankless job which he does about as well as is humanly
possible. And despite the fact that we don't agree on many issues, I've
always found him pretty fair. So even if I get mad, I simply remember what
a difficult job it is and let it go. Wish others could have done the
same....we'd have a more active group. But those who must *always* be right
can't apparently abide ever having a post rejected.

[[email protected]]

Harry Lavo wrote:
"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...
RAHE is now on hiatus until 9/10/2006.

--
David Bath - RAHE Co-moderator


Wonder what happened to the other moderator.
Or if David is the last of his kind .

ScottW


David's been doing it by himself for over a year now. Asked for volunteers
to apply, but no takers.

IMO, David has a thankless job which he does about as well as is humanly
possible. And despite the fact that we don't agree on many issues, I've
always found him pretty fair. So even if I get mad, I simply remember what
a difficult job it is and let it go. Wish others could have done the
same....we'd have a more active group. But those who must *always* be right
can't apparently abide ever having a post rejected.
=====================================

Harry, I sincerely respect YOUR fairness to Mr. Bath but not Mr.
Bath's to others whose views he disapproves of..
To be concrete.. Two years ago or thereabouts he announced a ban on
discussion about DBT/ABX. Following that rule he continued and
continues passing disputatious messages with thinly disguised synonyms
like:"But you did not use "nonbiased blind testing", or "bias-
controlled testing" etc. Disguises that wouldn't fool anyone past the
kindergarten. But he censored-rejected 9 messages of mine in a row.that
disputed that practice. Not for flames or vulgarity. (After 2 years in
the Army as a potato- peeling, sentry duty GI ifelt I heard enough
about ****ing and body parts to last me till the end of my life) I quit
RAHE for the second time, finally, and without regrets

Bath used to pass flames and name-calling directed at me by
individuals I prefer to forget but whose names and quotes I'll give on
request. But if I answered, woe to me, the censor's scissors would get
into action. 3 years ago after one violent flame that I was told I'll
be never allowed to answer adequately I quit RAHE for the first time.

Things were different before the other moderator Paul Raynaud from
Berkeley Univ. resigned.. If he felt that my answer was too much, like
the attacks on me, he'd contact me and ask me to revise. When I quit
RAHE the first time he told me he regretted that I felt I had to quit
and he welcomed me when I returned. The minute he left Bath got to
work to force me out.

I know that you do survive his anti-subjectivist censorship because in
your general niceness you find it easier to be not aggressively
controversial. I hope you continue. RAHE needs you. It is about to die
on the vine of attrition.
Best wishes Ludovic Mirabel

[Arny Krueger]

"Harry Lavo" wrote in message

"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...
RAHE is now on hiatus until 9/10/2006.

--
David Bath - RAHE Co-moderator


Wonder what happened to the other moderator.
Or if David is the last of his kind .

ScottW


David's been doing it by himself for over a year now. Asked for volunteers
to apply, but no takers.

I'd be happy to do it, but David's way too 'fraid to go for that.

[Sander deWaal]

"ScottW" said:

RAHE is now on hiatus until 9/10/2006.

David Bath - RAHE Co-moderator


Wonder what happened to the other moderator.
Or if David is the last of his kind .


All the good moderators probably have moved to web-based forums now.
The moderating process there is so much simpler and easier, since one
moderates after the posts are made.
This gives opportunities to e.g. moderating messages partly, or to
have a discussion without interruption in a timeframe of minutes,
sometimes hours, instead of days.

Usenet is dying.

Having said that: being a moderator myself, it's a timeconsuming,
sometimes difficult job.You can never do well.
Some people always feel neglected, insulted or misunderstood.

On the other hand, there are occassions where it can be a very
satisfying job, such as when newbies begin to see the light about a
given subject and start posting new views or ideas.

I wouldn't miss it for the world :-)

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Harry Lavo]

wrote in message
ps.com...

Harry Lavo wrote:
"ScottW" wrote in message
oups.com...
RAHE is now on hiatus until 9/10/2006.

--
David Bath - RAHE Co-moderator


Wonder what happened to the other moderator.
Or if David is the last of his kind .

ScottW


David's been doing it by himself for over a year now. Asked for
volunteers
to apply, but no takers.

IMO, David has a thankless job which he does about as well as is humanly
possible. And despite the fact that we don't agree on many issues, I've
always found him pretty fair. So even if I get mad, I simply remember
what
a difficult job it is and let it go. Wish others could have done the
same....we'd have a more active group. But those who must *always* be
right
can't apparently abide ever having a post rejected.
=====================================

Harry, I sincerely respect YOUR fairness to Mr. Bath but not Mr.
Bath's to others whose views he disapproves of..
To be concrete.. Two years ago or thereabouts he announced a ban on
discussion about DBT/ABX. Following that rule he continued and
continues passing disputatious messages with thinly disguised synonyms
like:"But you did not use "nonbiased blind testing", or "bias-
controlled testing" etc. Disguises that wouldn't fool anyone past the
kindergarten. But he censored-rejected 9 messages of mine in a row.that
disputed that practice. Not for flames or vulgarity. (After 2 years in
the Army as a potato- peeling, sentry duty GI ifelt I heard enough
about ****ing and body parts to last me till the end of my life) I quit
RAHE for the second time, finally, and without regrets

Bath used to pass flames and name-calling directed at me by
individuals I prefer to forget but whose names and quotes I'll give on
request. But if I answered, woe to me, the censor's scissors would get
into action. 3 years ago after one violent flame that I was told I'll
be never allowed to answer adequately I quit RAHE for the first time.

Things were different before the other moderator Paul Raynaud from
Berkeley Univ. resigned.. If he felt that my answer was too much, like
the attacks on me, he'd contact me and ask me to revise. When I quit
RAHE the first time he told me he regretted that I felt I had to quit
and he welcomed me when I returned. The minute he left Bath got to
work to force me out.

I know that you do survive his anti-subjectivist censorship because in
your general niceness you find it easier to be not aggressively
controversial. I hope you continue. RAHE needs you. It is about to die
on the vine of attrition.
Best wishes Ludovic Mirabel


Ludovic -

I suspect your analysis is correct. It is a shame you and David apparently
got so sideways, because individually I find you both reasonable people.
There certainly was an attempt to "clean up" recrimination and
"promotionalism" on RAHE, and I too noted that some subtle (especially by
Pinkerton) flaunting of the spirit of the rules continued to get through.
But that was at a time when David was handling 40-50 posts a day in only one
short evening "sitting" and I believe him when he said he missed some of
them in the sheer process of reading and dealing with that many posts along
with his work and family duties. And as with any *law*, there are people
who push to the edge of the technical "letter" while violating the "spirit"
in a pretty cavalier fashion. Unfortunately, the courts usually enforce
only the "letter", since enforcing the "spirit" can lead to charges of
subjectivism and "activism".

Harry

[Sander deWaal]

George M. Middius cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net
said:


Didn't your Mama Bear teach you to keep your trap shut when you have
nothing to say? I'd refer you to a pithy remark on this subject that's
usually credited to Mark Twain, but of course you're terribly afraid of
reading nontechnical books.


That's not entirely true, George.
Graham must have read Winnie the Pooh at some time .

His next incarnation will be called "Tigger" , I guess ;-)

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message


Usenet is dying.

No, but RAO is pretty dead as audio groups go.

Having said that: being a moderator myself, it's a
timeconsuming, sometimes difficult job.You can never do
well.

No doubt on a web-based forum.

Good job Sander, you're doing your part to kill off RAO.

[George M. Middius]

Sander deWaal said:

Didn't your Mama Bear teach you to keep your trap shut when you have
nothing to say? I'd refer you to a pithy remark on this subject that's
usually credited to Mark Twain, but of course you're terribly afraid of
reading nontechnical books.

That's not entirely true, George.
Graham must have read Winnie the Pooh at some time .

You're probably right. Let's say it's been many decades since Poopie last
ventured from the safety of his textbooks.

His next incarnation will be called "Tigger" , I guess ;-)

Maybe he'll even be so bold as to switch books and present himself as Toad
or Paddington.



--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

Sander deWaal wrote:

George M. Middius cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net
said:

Didn't your Mama Bear teach you to keep your trap shut when you have
nothing to say? I'd refer you to a pithy remark on this subject that's
usually credited to Mark Twain, but of course you're terribly afraid of
reading nontechnical books.

That's not entirely true, George.
Graham must have read Winnie the Pooh at some time .

I have the boxed set.


His next incarnation will be called "Tigger" , I guess ;-)

Possibly for bouncy moments but Wol appeals too.

Graham

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" said:


Usenet is dying.


No, but RAO is pretty dead as audio groups go.


I know you're still hoping to be notived by the "real audio guys" by
working fiercely on your "usenet career", but if you'd care to look
outside your little scope of vision, you'd notice that web-based
forums are far more active places.


Having said that: being a moderator myself, it's a
timeconsuming, sometimes difficult job.You can never do
well.


No doubt on a web-based forum.


Thanks for deleting the next part of my message, Arny, which reads
thusly:

On the other hand, there are occassions where it can be a very
satisfying job, such as when newbies begin to see the light about a
given subject and start posting new views or ideas.


Good job Sander, you're doing your part to kill off RAO.


My futile efforts pale in comparison to yours in this regard, Arny.

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" said:


Usenet is dying.


No, but RAO is pretty dead as audio groups go.


I know you're still hoping to be notived by the "real
audio guys" by working fiercely on your "usenet career",

You're delusional, Sander.

but if you'd care to look outside your little scope of
vision, you'd notice that web-based forums are far more
active places.

Been there, done that probably long before you did, Sander. Unlike you, I
can tell the difference between quantity and quality. Not that RAO has much
of either, but what do you expect from a group that is dominated by you and
your kind of ilk? I just stop by every now and then and throw out some
rotten boney meat for the local pack of mad dogs to gnaw on. Enjoy this
bone, Sander.

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" said:


Usenet is dying.


No, but RAO is pretty dead as audio groups go.


I know you're still hoping to be noticed by the "real
audio guys" by working fiercely on your "usenet career",


You're delusional, Sander.


Unlike you, I'm willing to concede that fact.


but if you'd care to look outside your little scope of
vision, you'd notice that web-based forums are far more
active places.


Been there, done that probably long before you did, Sander. Unlike you, I
can tell the difference between quantity and quality.


Yes, like why needing 1200 watts.ch. in a home audio system, versus a
nicely built 100 watts amp that is enough for 99.9 % of all speakers.
Certain Infinity speakers are excluded, just ask Trevor.


Not that RAO has much
of either, but what do you expect from a group that is dominated by you and
your kind of ilk?


RAO dominated by me? Hardly. I rarely post here anymore, and most
posts are crossposted from RATubes.
My "ilk"? You mean people like Graham or Peter Wieck, who are
gainfully employed or self-employed in the field of audio, a field you
so desperately want to belong to that you devote large parts of your
time to post to Usenet?

I simply don't have the time (or rather: don't want to make time) for
wading through thousands of messages about US politics and the
occasional snot post by "you and your ilk"about tube and vinyl bigots,
thank you very much.


I just stop by every now and then and throw out some
rotten boney meat for the local pack of mad dogs to gnaw on. Enjoy this
bone, Sander.


I'd prefer to gnaw on a rotten meaty bone any day than to become as
bitter and self-pitying as you seem to be, Arny.

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" said:


Usenet is dying.


No, but RAO is pretty dead as audio groups go.

I know you're still hoping to be noticed by the "real
audio guys" by working fiercely on your "usenet career",

You're delusional, Sander.

Unlike you, I'm willing to concede that fact.

Then why bother?


but if you'd care to look outside your little scope of
vision, you'd notice that web-based forums are far more
active places.


Been there, done that probably long before you did,
Sander. Unlike you, I can tell the difference between
quantity and quality.

Yes, like why needing 1200 watts.ch. in a home audio
system,

What are you ranting and raving about now? Who do you think has 1200 wpc in
a home audio system?

versus a nicely built 100 watts amp that is
enough for 99.9 % of all speakers. Certain Infinity
speakers are excluded, just ask Trevor.

As if that was all that matters.

Not that RAO has much
of either, but what do you expect from a group that is
dominated by you and your kind of ilk?

RAO dominated by me?

Thats not what I said Sander, but I guess I should just let you rant on,
incoherently.

Hardly. I rarely post here anymore,
and most posts are crossposted from RATubes.

Why bother?

My "ilk"? You mean people like Graham or Peter Wieck, who
are gainfully employed or self-employed in the field of
audio, a field you so desperately want to belong to that
you devote large parts of your time to post to Usenet?

Who told you that? What indicates that to you?

I simply don't have the time (or rather: don't want to
make time) for wading through thousands of messages about
US politics and the occasional snot post by "you and your
ilk"about tube and vinyl bigots, thank you very much.

As if that isn't what you are doing right now, Sander.

I just stop by every now and then and throw out some
rotten boney meat for the local pack of mad dogs to gnaw
on. Enjoy this bone, Sander.

I'd prefer to gnaw on a rotten meaty bone any day than to
become as bitter and self-pitying as you seem to be, Arny.

What self-pity is that, Sander? The self-pity that you, Middius, Paul and
Jenn project every time you post?

[Eeyore]

Sander deWaal wrote:

"Arny Krueger" said:

Usenet is dying.

No, but RAO is pretty dead as audio groups go.

I know you're still hoping to be notived by the "real audio guys" by
working fiercely on your "usenet career", but if you'd care to look
outside your little scope of vision, you'd notice that web-based
forums are far more active places.

Maybe so but I find them very tedious to use and they don't handle proper
threaded discussions very well as a rule either.

Graham

[Eeyore]

Arny Krueger wrote:

what do you expect from a group that is dominated by you and
your kind of ilk?

Surely you mean 'your ilk' ?

Reminds me of the popular and incorrect use in the USA of a 'high rate of speed'
!

Graham

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:


What self-pity is that, Sander? The self-pity that you, Middius, Paul and
Jenn project every time you post?

LOL What a card!

[George M. Middius]

Jenn said:

The self-pity that you, Middius, Paul and
Jenn project every time you post?

LOL What a card!

Congratulations, Jenn. You've been promoted to the first rank of Most
Feared Normals, and you've been posting to RAO for less than a year. You
know you're scaring the krap out of Krooger when he bitches about you
every day even without posting to the thread. Most of us need at least
three years to attain that level.




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Arny Krueger]

"Eeyore"
wrote
in message
Sander deWaal wrote:

"Arny Krueger" said:

Usenet is dying.

No, but RAO is pretty dead as audio groups go.

I know you're still hoping to be notived by the "real
audio guys" by working fiercely on your "usenet career",
but if you'd care to look outside your little scope of
vision, you'd notice that web-based forums are far more
active places.

Maybe so but I find them very tedious to use

And, its not like they are hotbeds of sophisticated technology transfer.

and they
don't handle proper threaded discussions very well as a
rule either.

One advantage - trolls like Middius and his clique are rarely tolerated in
HTML forums.

[Peter Wieck]

George M. Middius dribbled:

More desperately stupid attempts at cleverness.

So, Mr. Middius, which is it that bothers you mo That Jute-McCoy's
fingers are so far up your fundament that you can taste its fingers in
the back of your throat? Or that you are only its second-favorite
sockpuppet?

Was that clear enough?

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" said:


Yes, like why needing 1200 watts.ch. in a home audio
system,


What are you ranting and raving about now? Who do you think has 1200 wpc in
a home audio system?


What? Are you telling me you sold off your QSC amplifiers?

Good move!


My "ilk"? You mean people like Graham or Peter Wieck, who
are gainfully employed or self-employed in the field of
audio, a field you so desperately want to belong to that
you devote large parts of your time to post to Usenet?


Who told you that?


A little fairy whispered it in my ear.


What indicates that to you?


That you still didn't define "people of my ilk", and didn't deny that
"my ilk" consists of people like Graham or Peter Wieck, who are
gainfully employed or self-employed in the field of audio.
A field, you so desperately want to belong to that you devote large
chunks of your time to post to Usenet audio groups, in the (vain) hope
that once, a "real audio guy" will notice, and hire you?


I simply don't have the time (or rather: don't want to
make time) for wading through thousands of messages about
US politics and the occasional snot post by "you and your
ilk"about tube and vinyl bigots, thank you very much.


As if that isn't what you are doing right now, Sander.


I haven't seen any political crap, nor the words "tube bigot" or
"vinyl bigot" in this conversation from you, Arny.
That's why I am still here ;-)


I'd prefer to gnaw on a rotten meaty bone any day than to
become as bitter and self-pitying as you seem to be, Arny.


What self-pity is that, Sander? The self-pity that you, Middius, Paul and
Jenn project every time you post?


I'm sure I will stay up late all night, worrying about what you think
of me, Arny.

Did your father hit you over the head with an output transformer once,
Arny? Is that where your hatred of tubes comes from?

You can tell me, it will make me understand why you are doing the
things you're doing, and it will lighten your burden.

Trust me.

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Sander deWaal]

Eeyore said:



I know you're still hoping to be notived by the "real audio guys" by
working fiercely on your "usenet career", but if you'd care to look
outside your little scope of vision, you'd notice that web-based
forums are far more active places.


Maybe so but I find them very tedious to use and they don't handle proper
threaded discussions very well as a rule either.


Depends on the group, I think.

I visit mainly Dutch DIY groups, and I must say, things are going
excellent there.

Good info, much humor, helpful folk.

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Eeyore]

Sander deWaal wrote:

Eeyore said:

I know you're still hoping to be notived by the "real audio guys" by
working fiercely on your "usenet career", but if you'd care to look
outside your little scope of vision, you'd notice that web-based
forums are far more active places.

Maybe so but I find them very tedious to use and they don't handle proper
threaded discussions very well as a rule either.

Depends on the group, I think.

I visit mainly Dutch DIY groups, and I must say, things are going
excellent there.

Good info, much humor, helpful folk.

Good to hear.

I rather suspect I'd have trouble with the language though !

Graham

[dizzy]

Eeyore wrote:

Sander deWaal wrote:

"Arny Krueger" said:

Usenet is dying.

No, but RAO is pretty dead as audio groups go.

I know you're still hoping to be notived by the "real audio guys" by
working fiercely on your "usenet career", but if you'd care to look
outside your little scope of vision, you'd notice that web-based
forums are far more active places.

Maybe so but I find them very tedious to use and they don't handle proper
threaded discussions very well as a rule either.

They suck.

[paul packer]

On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 15:19:39 GMT, Jenn
wrote:

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:


What self-pity is that, Sander? The self-pity that you, Middius, Paul and
Jenn project every time you post?

LOL What a card!

A joker. I fear.

[paul packer]

On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:40:09 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:

You know you're scaring the krap out of Krooger when he bitches about you
every day even without posting to the thread.

Is there an error here, George? Shouldn't it be "even without you
posting to the thread"?

[paul packer]

On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 22:01:33 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



paul packer said:

You know you're scaring the krap out of Krooger when he bitches about you
every day even without posting to the thread.

Is there an error here, George? Shouldn't it be "even without you
posting to the thread"?

Yes, my mistake. I do make one every now and then. G


Can this post be archived in a prominent place? I want everyone to see
it as they come in the door.

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message

Eeyore
said:



I know you're still hoping to be notived by the "real
audio guys" by working fiercely on your "usenet
career", but if you'd care to look outside your little
scope of vision, you'd notice that web-based forums are
far more active places.


Maybe so but I find them very tedious to use and they
don't handle proper threaded discussions very well as a
rule either.


Depends on the group, I think.

I visit mainly Dutch DIY groups, and I must say, things
are going excellent there.

Good info, much humor, helpful folk.

If Sander likes it, then its probably like the blind leading the blind.

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" said:


I visit mainly Dutch DIY groups, and I must say, things
are going excellent there.

Good info, much humor, helpful folk.


If Sander likes it, then its probably like the blind leading the blind.


At least I'm "leading", Arny, which is still more valuable than
getting beaten up time after time in newsgroups by people you
obviously seem to hate.

BTW when are you going to start working on *your* humor skills?

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" said:


I visit mainly Dutch DIY groups, and I must say, things
are going excellent there.

Good info, much humor, helpful folk.


If Sander likes it, then its probably like the blind
leading the blind.


At least I'm "leading", Arny, which is still more
valuable than getting beaten up time after time in
newsgroups by people you obviously seem to hate.

Sander, I think you ought to try to talk youself and your friends out of
that senseless self-abusive habit.

BTW when are you going to start working on *your* humor skills?

When there is an audience that is worth the trouble.

Admit it Sander, you're losing interest in RAO. Time to go away, completely.

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" said:


Admit it Sander, you're losing interest in RAO. Time to go away, completely.


You're right, Arny, I'm losing interest in RAO as it is now.

However, I reserve the right to post to audio threads as I see fit, if
that is OK with you.

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Arny Krueger]

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" said:


Admit it Sander, you're losing interest in RAO. Time to
go away, completely.


You're right, Arny, I'm losing interest in RAO as it is
now.

Been there, done that long ago.

However, I reserve the right to post to audio threads as
I see fit, if that is OK with you.

Oh come on Sander.

While you and your buds in the Middius posse have been trying to run off
everybody that you disagree with with anguished cries of "Borg", I've long
been in favor of freedom of speech and expression.

Of course, with the right to expression comes the right to say something
stupid, and with the right to say something stupid comes the exposure to
being corrected.

It is the correction part that you and the rest of the Middius posse find so
disagreeable.

[ScottW]

George M. Middius wrote:
paul packer said:

You know you're scaring the krap out of Krooger when he bitches about you
every day even without posting to the thread.

Is there an error here, George? Shouldn't it be "even without you
posting to the thread"?

Yes, my mistake. I do make one every now and then. G

Consider yourself ridiculed.

ScottW

[Margaret von B]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message


Usenet is dying.

No, but RAO is pretty dead as audio groups go.


Why don't you save it by joining Nate in heaven?

[paul packer]

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 08:31:42 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


While you and your buds in the Middius posse have been trying to run off
everybody that you disagree with with anguished cries of "Borg", I've long
been in favor of freedom of speech and expression.


Translation: If it's criticism of Middius I'm all for it. If it's
criticism of me it's unfair by definition, and I think I'll pity
myself for a while.

[George M. Middius]

paul packer said:

Translation: If it's criticism of Middius I'm all for it. If it's
criticism of me it's unfair by definition, and I think I'll pity
myself for a while.

Be "reasonable", paul -- if Arnii doesn't get any pity from himself, he'll
go completely without.




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006