[analogcorner]

I really enjoyed this post from a bitter dimwit who has not seen my DVD
and so has no idea what is on it, yet feels qualified to "review" it.
And yes, I do guarantee that when you're finished watching you will be
able to set up a turntable. As to why I recommend starting with a cheap
cartridge, only an imbecile like you wouldn't be able to figure out
why. Perhaps you'd prefer the services of an inexperienced brain
surgeon for the procedure your obviously miniature one requires.

As for the cost. I put my own money up. It cost me a lot of money.
Clearly, you don't understand the difference between "Lord of the
Rings" and an instructional DVD that will appeal to a relatively small
audience and the economics involved. Clearly you understand very little
in general.

Here are some unsolicited comments I have received from people who
have ACTUALLY BOUGHT AND WATCHED MY DVD:

Michael

"Before I watched your DVD I have to admit I was hopeless at setting
up my turntable, needing to call my dealer to the rescue when something
went amiss. After watching you explain and demonstrate the possible
adjustments I was somewhat at a loss, but after getting out my toolkit
and following the process step by step it seemed as if I was a seasoned
professional. I breezed trough it and thoroughly enjoyed the process.
I feel I can finally and confidently say that I've begun to master
the setup of my favourite source and I'm sure I'll get better at it
too. Your DVD has been a godsend, thanks for making it !!!"

-Bert Denckens
Antwerp - Belgium

"It's awesome"

-Bob Weston (recording engineer, record producer, bass player in Steve
Albini's band Shellac)

"Now, about the disc, I love the whole thing..."

-a buyer in Australia

"Your intro to the DVD (that's as far as I've gotten) was so f...king
funny....the US vs Brit vs German approach to LP liners had my WIFE
laughing and making me pause the disc so she wouldn't miss anything
when she was getting ready for bed."

-Joe Harley, record producer, VP product development, AudioQuest

"...I think it is a wonderful tool. I've probably set up 500
'tables since the 1960s, (and modified that many more!), but for the
guy who has never done it, this is, in my opinion, the perfect nudge to
get them past the stigma and fear. A hearty well done from this
corner..."

Greg Weaver,
Senior editor, Positive Feedback online,
http://www.theaudioanalyst.com/




fathom wrote:
I tried.

I was a longtime Stereophile subscriber (1982+) and at one
time I read every word of each issue, but 3 or 4 years ago I
just gave up on them, as maybe 1% of each issue was relevant
to me.

I recently re-subscribed, mostly because of a promised
upcoming review of the Squeezebox 3, which is my main playback
device now (in fact, I have 5 of them in different rooms).
Besides, it was only costing me 90 cents an issue.

I also subscribed to the free eNewsletter. If these are any
indication of what I can expect in the print copy, maybe I'll
just let them bake in my 160-degree mailbox until they
spontaneously combust.

To wit:

In today's eNewsletter, we have JA CREAMING over the Pink
Floyd "Pulse" DVD. JA likes to say that the next-gen music
format should not be hi-res SACD or DVD-A, but plain, old,
ordinary DVD. THEN the ****er has the gall to admit that he
did not listen to the 5.1 channel surround mix. (Pink Floyd?
In surround? Blasphemy!) No....he got all goopy over the
STEREO mix, which he could not identify as PCM or compressed
2.0 Dolby Digital, and which he claims sounds REMARKABLY like
the 1994 CD!

So, the next great music delivery format sounds exactly like
the previous music delivery format. Thanks for that
revelation, John. He thought the LIGHT SHOW was really cool,
though. God, I wish I could sit around getting high and
making six figures for these lame observations like JA does.
Pink Floyd - in STEREO! Wow, man!



In the middle section of the eNewsletter was the usual self-
hypnotism about how turntables costing $60k - $100k were worth
every stinkin' penny, by God! This one comes from Ken
Kessler, and one would hope that the kickbacks are going
toward something utterly worthwhile, like a rare pony or a
$200k bottle of bordeaux with a breached cork.


Comes the finish, and JA is at it again, pimping still another
DVD. This one is a real blockbuster - (maybe JA should work
at Blockbuster - I hear they're hiring). It's a THREE HOUR
VIDEO OF A GUY SETTING UP A TURNTABLE - actually THREE
turntables, but I have to believe that turntables two and
three are going to be uh, similar to turntable one. And the
star of this show, Michael Fremer (the Analog Coroner)
GUARANTEES that after 3 hours of intensive study, you too will
be ready and able to set up a turntable. Well, he actually
suggests that you try it with a CHEAP cartridge first, because
he's certain you'll bungle it even after this 3-hour expert
training session.

JA claims that this DVD is even "SOMETIMES FUNNY" and I have
no doubt that it's a real knee-slapper. Just thinking about
it makes me borderline hysterical. As for the price of this
priceless relic, it is (drumroll) $37.94 with shipping!

Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco. But Peter Jackson only had to deal
with state of the art CGI, a dozen world-class actors,
impossible location shoots, a cast of thousands, extensive
costuming, and the greatest story ever told. He did NOT,
however, have to even TOUCH a turntable to make that movie.

[George M. Middius]

analogcorner said:

I really enjoyed this post from a bitter dimwit who has not seen my DVD
and so has no idea what is on it, yet feels qualified to "review" it.
And yes, I do guarantee that when you're finished watching you will be
able to set up a turntable. As to why I recommend starting with a cheap
cartridge, only an imbecile like you wouldn't be able to figure out
why. Perhaps you'd prefer the services of an inexperienced brain
surgeon for the procedure your obviously miniature one requires.

As for the cost. I put my own money up. It cost me a lot of money.
Clearly, you don't understand the difference between "Lord of the
Rings" and an instructional DVD that will appeal to a relatively small
audience and the economics involved. Clearly you understand very little
in general.

Well, he is a 'borg, after all. All 'borgs make purchasing decisions using
the single criterion of price. Not performance value, not market value,
not resale value -- just plain price.


Another way of looking at this issue is to compare the cost of the
instructional DVD to how much money one invests in a turntable. Not
necessarily high-end tables costing more than a grand, but the budget
tables that deliver good sound and cost in the hundreds. It's also bizarre
that Can'tFathomBorg has too much free time to put a value on it. In the
real world of Normals, time invested in learning a skill usually yields a
greater return in value. Turntables are not plug-and-play like digital
equipment, so an investment of time, or money to hire an expert, is a
requirement.




--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[Jenn]

In article .com,
"analogcorner" wrote:

I really enjoyed this post from a bitter dimwit who has not seen my DVD
and so has no idea what is on it, yet feels qualified to "review" it.
And yes, I do guarantee that when you're finished watching you will be
able to set up a turntable. As to why I recommend starting with a cheap
cartridge, only an imbecile like you wouldn't be able to figure out
why. Perhaps you'd prefer the services of an inexperienced brain
surgeon for the procedure your obviously miniature one requires.

As for the cost. I put my own money up. It cost me a lot of money.
Clearly, you don't understand the difference between "Lord of the
Rings" and an instructional DVD that will appeal to a relatively small
audience and the economics involved. Clearly you understand very little
in general.

Here are some unsolicited comments I have received from people who
have ACTUALLY BOUGHT AND WATCHED MY DVD:

Michael

Hey Michael,

I enjoy your writing, and I look forward to seeing the video.

[Jenn]

In article ,
fathom wrote:

Jenn wrote in

gy.com:

In article
.com,
"analogcorner" wrote:

I really enjoyed this post from a bitter dimwit who has
not seen my DVD and so has no idea what is on it, yet
feels qualified to "review" it. And yes, I do guarantee
that when you're finished watching you will be able to set
up a turntable. As to why I recommend starting with a
cheap cartridge, only an imbecile like you wouldn't be
able to figure out why. Perhaps you'd prefer the services
of an inexperienced brain surgeon for the procedure your
obviously miniature one requires.

As for the cost. I put my own money up. It cost me a lot
of money. Clearly, you don't understand the difference
between "Lord of the Rings" and an instructional DVD that
will appeal to a relatively small audience and the
economics involved. Clearly you understand very little
in general.

Here are some unsolicited comments I have received from
people who
have ACTUALLY BOUGHT AND WATCHED MY DVD:

Michael

Hey Michael,

I enjoy your writing, and I look forward to seeing the
video.

Signed,
Michael's Mom

Hmmm I didn't know that about you. Congrats.

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[dizzy]

analogcorner wrote:

I really enjoyed this post from a bitter dimwit who has not seen my DVD
and so has no idea what is on it, yet feels qualified to "review" it.

Good comeback. The only mystery is way anyone bothers with that
obsolete technology anymore. 8)

Seriously, for the market that craves that "analog sound", someone
should just set up shop with a Rockport Serius (or whatever) and
record all the best stuff to SACD and sell that. Then the listeners
can have "the best of both worlds".

[George M. Middius]

dippyborg said:

Seriously, for the market that craves that "analog sound", someone
should just set up shop with a Rockport Serius (or whatever) and
record all the best stuff to SACD and sell that. Then the listeners
can have "the best of both worlds".

Very well thought-out plan, dipster. You need somebody of superior
intellect and business acumen to flesh out this plan. I suggest you enlist
Scottie Witlessmongrel. His contribution will easily equal yours.






--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[paul packer]

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:20:42 GMT, dizzy wrote:



Seriously, for the market that craves that "analog sound", someone
should just set up shop with a Rockport Serius (or whatever) and
record all the best stuff to SACD and sell that. Then the listeners
can have "the best of both worlds".

Actually that's what I can't understand. I can appreciate that people
prefer the analogue sound, but if so why not beg, borrow or steal the
best possible turntable and record all their precious favourites to
CD-R and never think about TTs again? Best of both worlds indeed.

[analogcorner]

you are good at shoveling **** and being an asshole so I can understand
why you'd also be good with the coal.



fathom wrote:
"analogcorner" wrote in
oups.com:

Here are some unsolicited comments I have received from
people who
have ACTUALLY BOUGHT AND WATCHED MY DVD:

That's great, Coroner! I have a DVD about steam trains.
Afterwards, I almost feel I can shovel coal. But I'll use a
cheap shovel the first time, just to be safe.

You put out your OWN MONEY to make this video? I'd have thought
the Hollywood backers would be lining up for it. Why did it
cost "a lot of money"? Professional-quality video production is
available to anyone with a little skill. But you probably had
to overpay others to do it for you. It's a little harder than
screwing a cartridge into a tonearm.

Check out my latest DVD production:

"Pelicans T-Ball 2006 - A Season On The Brink"

You can order a copy for "only" $69.99 + 24.99 S&H

[analogcorner]

well diz you are correct. I have made recordings using my Continuum
Audio Labs 'table and sent them to people on CD-Rs and they all say
they'd be willing to pay for such discs because for whatever reasons,
they sound better than the commercial CD of the same material. How is
that possible? EVERYTHING in audio is "signal processed." There is
something about proper vinyl playback that makes it sound more "real."

In fact I am trying to get a deal to issue just such discs legally.

Tell you what: you send me an email with an address and I'll send you
a disc recorded from the "obsolete technology" and then you can tell
everyone what you heard.....


dizzy wrote:
analogcorner wrote:

I really enjoyed this post from a bitter dimwit who has not seen my DVD
and so has no idea what is on it, yet feels qualified to "review" it.

Good comeback. The only mystery is way anyone bothers with that
obsolete technology anymore. 8)

Seriously, for the market that craves that "analog sound", someone
should just set up shop with a Rockport Serius (or whatever) and
record all the best stuff to SACD and sell that. Then the listeners
can have "the best of both worlds".

[analogcorner]

The original vinyl always sounds better than the vinyl to CD
transfer...


paul packer wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:20:42 GMT, dizzy wrote:



Seriously, for the market that craves that "analog sound", someone
should just set up shop with a Rockport Serius (or whatever) and
record all the best stuff to SACD and sell that. Then the listeners
can have "the best of both worlds".

Actually that's what I can't understand. I can appreciate that people
prefer the analogue sound, but if so why not beg, borrow or steal the
best possible turntable and record all their precious favourites to
CD-R and never think about TTs again? Best of both worlds indeed.

[paul packer]

On 31 Jul 2006 12:49:57 -0700, "analogcorner"
wrote:

The original vinyl always sounds better than the vinyl to CD
transfer...

Why so?

[Clyde Slick]

dizzy wrote:
analogcorner wrote:

I really enjoyed this post from a bitter dimwit who has not seen my DVD
and so has no idea what is on it, yet feels qualified to "review" it.

Good comeback. The only mystery is way anyone bothers with that
obsolete technology anymore. 8)

Seriously, for the market that craves that "analog sound", someone
should just set up shop with a Rockport Serius (or whatever) and
record all the best stuff to SACD and sell that. Then the listeners
can have "the best of both worlds".


"analogcorner" wrote in message
oups.com...
well diz you are correct. I have made recordings using my Continuum
Audio Labs 'table and sent them to people on CD-Rs and they all say
they'd be willing to pay for such discs because for whatever reasons,
they sound better than the commercial CD of the same material. How is
that possible? EVERYTHING in audio is "signal processed." There is
something about proper vinyl playback that makes it sound more "real."

In fact I am trying to get a deal to issue just such discs legally.

Tell you what: you send me an email with an address and I'll send you
a disc recorded from the "obsolete technology" and then you can tell
everyone what you heard.....



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[Clyde Slick]

paul packer wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:20:42 GMT, dizzy wrote:



Seriously, for the market that craves that "analog sound", someone
should just set up shop with a Rockport Serius (or whatever) and
record all the best stuff to SACD and sell that. Then the listeners
can have "the best of both worlds".

Actually that's what I can't understand. I can appreciate that people
prefer the analogue sound, but if so why not beg, borrow or steal the
best possible turntable and record all their precious favourites to
CD-R and never think about TTs again? Best of both worlds indeed.



"analogcorner" wrote in message
oups.com...
The original vinyl always sounds better than the vinyl to CD
transfer...



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[Arny Krueger]

"analogcorner" wrote in message
oups.com...

well diz you are correct. I have made recordings using my Continuum
Audio Labs 'table and sent them to people on CD-Rs and they all say
they'd be willing to pay for such discs because for whatever reasons,
they sound better than the commercial CD of the same material.

Hmm, you've been writing for Stereophile for how long, and don't know the
answer?

How is that possible?

One word: mastering

EVERYTHING in audio is "signal processed."

Agreed. The magic must be in how the processing is done, no?

There is something about proper vinyl playback that makes it sound more
"real."

You haven't laid any proper groundwork for this conclusion at all.