[Kalman Rubinson]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:44:15 -0500, fathom wrote:

Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.

Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.

Kal (Stereophile affiliation acknowledged)

[George M. Middius]

Kalman Rubinson said:

Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.

Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.

All of the "true hobbyist" magazines seem to be dead and gone. And the
'borgs continually whine about how expensive DIY materials are. Perhaps we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.




--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[Sander deWaal]

George M. Middius cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net
said:


Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.


Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.


All of the "true hobbyist" magazines seem to be dead and gone. And the
'borgs continually whine about how expensive DIY materials are.


Have you seen the prices of those Mundorf caps?
And them WE300Bs and Tamura output trannies, it's simply outrageous!


Perhaps we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.


Maybe Howard will play editor-in-chief!

--
"All amps sound alike, but some sound more alike than others".

[analogcorner]

The problem is "true hobbies" are going away. Fewer people tinker with
their cars and fewer people tinker with their audio gear, in part
because the gear is less "tinker-able" and because fewer people
maintain an interest. However, a recent 'audio hobbyist' get together
in NJ was extremely well attended. But unlike some of the TWITS here,
the people there understood the value of a well-read magazine like
Stereophile to the industry in general but the "tweaker" and consumer
sides. The internet is filled with great sites that take up the slack
from hobbyist mags...

George M. Middius wrote:
Kalman Rubinson said:

Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.

Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.

All of the "true hobbyist" magazines seem to be dead and gone. And the
'borgs continually whine about how expensive DIY materials are. Perhaps we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.




--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[analogcorner]

The problem is "true hobbies" are going away. Fewer people tinker with
their cars and fewer people tinker with their audio gear, in part
because the gear is less "tinker-able" and because fewer people
maintain an interest. However, a recent 'audio hobbyist' get together
in NJ was extremely well attended. But unlike some of the TWITS here,
the people there understood the value of a well-read magazine like
Stereophile to the industry in general but the "tweaker" and consumer
sides. The internet is filled with great sites that take up the slack
from hobbyist mags...

George M. Middius wrote:
Kalman Rubinson said:

Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.

Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.

All of the "true hobbyist" magazines seem to be dead and gone. And the
'borgs continually whine about how expensive DIY materials are. Perhaps we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.




--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[George M. Middius]

Sander deWaal said:

Perhaps we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.

Maybe Howard will play editor-in-chief!

Good suggestion. That gives me an idea for a name for this august
publication -- "Clown Audio Quarterly".



--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[Sander deWaal]

George M. Middius cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net
said:


Perhaps we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.


Maybe Howard will play editor-in-chief!


Good suggestion. That gives me an idea for a name for this august
publication -- "Clown Audio Quarterly".


Pronounced: "Quack".
A periodical for the lunatic fringe, where snake oil meets crackpot,
note.

You will note, however, that I'm retired, slick.
However, note, I could be lured into that job for at least a
substantial amount of fame and respect, note.
$20 per article will do, the cats need to be feeded, note.

Haw haw haw.

--
"All amps sound alike, but some sound more alike than others".

[JimC]

George M. Middius wrote:

Kalman Rubinson said:


Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.


Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.


All of the "true hobbyist" magazines seem to be dead and gone. And the
'borgs continually whine about how expensive DIY materials are. Perhaps we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.


Not at all George. - What we need is a new and even more subjective
magazine in which all the techies who know anything about how the
components work (all the round earth folks) are eliminated, leaving only
the flat earth, voodo-magic subjectionists. Anyone who knows anything
about ohms law, for example, has no business reviewing high-end audio
equipment. - He obviously could never appreciate how the equipment
actually sounds.

Right George?

Jim



--
A day without Middius is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[Jenn]

In article ,
JimC wrote:

George M. Middius wrote:

Kalman Rubinson said:


Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.


Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.


All of the "true hobbyist" magazines seem to be dead and gone. And the
'borgs continually whine about how expensive DIY materials are. Perhaps we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.


Not at all George. - What we need is a new and even more subjective
magazine in which all the techies who know anything about how the
components work (all the round earth folks) are eliminated, leaving only
the flat earth, voodo-magic subjectionists. Anyone who knows anything
about ohms law, for example, has no business reviewing high-end audio
equipment. - He obviously could never appreciate how the equipment
actually sounds.

Right George?

Jim

Sorry for butting in, but why would knowledge of Ohms law be a
requirement for telling people how a thing sounds?

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[George M. Middius]

Jenn said:

Sorry for butting in, but why would knowledge of Ohms law be a
requirement for telling people how a thing sounds?

Don't expect Queenie to make sense. Last time she popped her dainty head
up on RAO, she got busy nominating Arnii Krooger to be RAO Chairman.
(I'm not kidding!)





--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[ScottW]

"analogcorner" wrote in message
ups.com...
The problem is "true hobbies" are going away. Fewer people tinker with
their cars

Are you nuts? Kids are as much into cars as they ever were...
and way more into them than audio..
With all the aftermarket stuff available and programmable
ECMs kids can screw around with their cars more than ever.
Toss in dirt bikes, quads, and buggies and motorsports
in general are going strong.

Let me guess...you live in NYC?

ScottW

[paul packer]

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:22:39 -0700, "ScottW"
wrote:


"analogcorner" wrote in message
oups.com...
The problem is "true hobbies" are going away. Fewer people tinker with
their cars

Are you nuts? Kids are as much into cars as they ever were...
and way more into them than audio..
With all the aftermarket stuff available and programmable
ECMs kids can screw around with their cars more than ever.
Toss in dirt bikes, quads, and buggies and motorsports
in general are going strong.

Let me guess...you live in NYC?

ScottW


Disagree. Cars are far less tinkerable. I don't know what kids do, but
the average motorist is certainly far less equipped to get his hands
dirty than a few years ago. I knew a lady who use to do a valve grind
on her car in the early 50s. I'd like to see that now. Anything much
beyond an oil change is a course.

[paul packer]

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:19:50 -0400, Kalman Rubinson
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:44:15 -0500, fathom wrote:

Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.

Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.

I learnt a lot from LOTR. I never knew Hobbits had hair on their feet,
or that elves could defy the laws of gravity. I'm not interested in
turntables anyway.

[George M. Middius]

paul packer said:

I learnt a lot from LOTR. I never knew Hobbits had hair on their feet,
or that elves could defy the laws of gravity. I'm not interested in
turntables anyway.

Here's your hero Gandalf in a role much closer to his heart:

http://301url.com/3zt




--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[John Atkinson]

paul packer wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:22:39 -0700, "ScottW"
asked Michael Fremer:
Let me guess...you live in NYC?

Michael lives in deepest New Jersey, is a Saab fanatic, and
is, perhaps, the only one of my review team who can rebuild
an engine.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

[paul packer]

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 05:31:54 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:

paul packer said:

I learnt a lot from LOTR. I never knew Hobbits had hair on their feet,
or that elves could defy the laws of gravity. I'm not interested in
turntables anyway.

Here's your hero Gandalf in a role much closer to his heart:

I was aware of the gentleman's inclinations, George, but I just happen
to think he looks much prettier as Gandalf.

BTW, did you ever see the LOTR send-up that was doing the rounds?
Seems everyone in the story is gay, and lusting after everyone else,
something that wasn't made very clear in the film version. Frodo is
the favourite.

Quick excerpt:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DAY EIGHT:

Off to Mordor. Other members of Fellowship v. dodgy if you ask me.
Especially Boromir. "Teaching Merry and Pippin how to sword-fight" my
Aunt Lebolia. Obviously pervy Hobbit-fancier who likes to roll around
with small men in shorts.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

All told as diary entries and very funny.

[George M. Middius]

paul packer said:

Here's your hero Gandalf in a role much closer to his heart:

I was aware of the gentleman's inclinations, George, but I just happen
to think he looks much prettier as Gandalf.

Where are the shrieks of outrage? He's a man, and he's dressed as a woman!
Think of all the damage being done to innocent children and uptight prigs
who chance to come across this horrific gender-bending. You need to saddle
up your Roosinante and hop off to battle. No time to waste!



--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[Sander deWaal]

(paul packer) said:


Disagree. Cars are far less tinkerable. I don't know what kids do, but
the average motorist is certainly far less equipped to get his hands
dirty than a few years ago. I knew a lady who use to do a valve grind
on her car in the early 50s. I'd like to see that now. Anything much
beyond an oil change is a course.


A "lady" who grinded her own valve sittings?
Was her name Edna, perchance? ;-)
I guess "the outback " asks for fierce women, with hair on their
teeth, arms like trees and weiging a massive 400+ pounds..........

That said, I have some experience rebuilding and repairing Citroens,
which means any other thing mechanic is a piece of cake for me.

--
"All amps sound alike, but some sound more alike than others".

[AZ Nomad]

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:47:19 +0200, Sander deWaal wrote:


(paul packer) said:


Disagree. Cars are far less tinkerable. I don't know what kids do, but
the average motorist is certainly far less equipped to get his hands
dirty than a few years ago. I knew a lady who use to do a valve grind
on her car in the early 50s. I'd like to see that now. Anything much
beyond an oil change is a course.


A "lady" who grinded her own valve sittings?
Was her name Edna, perchance? ;-)
I guess "the outback " asks for fierce women, with hair on their
teeth, arms like trees and weiging a massive 400+ pounds..........

That said, I have some experience rebuilding and repairing Citroens,
which means any other thing mechanic is a piece of cake for me.

Eventually you'll learn what a valve *seat* is.

[Sander deWaal]

AZ Nomad said:


Disagree. Cars are far less tinkerable. I don't know what kids do, but
the average motorist is certainly far less equipped to get his hands
dirty than a few years ago. I knew a lady who use to do a valve grind
on her car in the early 50s. I'd like to see that now. Anything much
beyond an oil change is a course.


A "lady" who grinded her own valve sittings?
Was her name Edna, perchance? ;-)
I guess "the outback " asks for fierce women, with hair on their
teeth, arms like trees and weiging a massive 400+ pounds..........


That said, I have some experience rebuilding and repairing Citroens,
which means any other thing mechanic is a piece of cake for me.


Eventually you'll learn what a valve *seat* is.


Is *that* what it's called?
Why, thank you! You learn a little every day!

Shall I teach you some Dutch words in return?
Let's start with these : "opgeblazen kwal" ;-)

I must warn you however: the meaning isn't what it literally
translates to .

Meanwhile, I hope I provided you guys with some laughs, being the
resident language clown around here ;-)

--
"All amps sound alike, but some sound more alike than others".

[George M. Middius]

Sander deWaal said:

Meanwhile, I hope I provided you guys with some laughs, being the
resident language clown around here ;-)

Is that like a minister without portfolio? Your new title brings me to
mind of Hamlet. Scurvy courtiers all, hazard not such wild gesticulations
of words untrue!

Speaking of the mournful Dane, do you get any Canadian TV shows over
there? We just got one (on a cable net) called "Slings & Arrows". It's
hysterical.



--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[Sander deWaal]

George M. Middius cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net
said:


Meanwhile, I hope I provided you guys with some laughs, being the
resident language clown around here ;-)


Is that like a minister without portfolio? Your new title brings me to
mind of Hamlet. Scurvy courtiers all, hazard not such wild gesticulations
of words untrue!


This sounds serious.
Did you see a doctor? Or just pink elephants?


Speaking of the mournful Dane, do you get any Canadian TV shows over
there? We just got one (on a cable net) called "Slings & Arrows". It's
hysterical.


I haven't seen any TV since the end of Star Trek Enterprise.
I have bought 9 seasons of "Stargate SG1" on DVD, and am waiting for
"Atlantis"to appear here on DVD.

The rest of the time I'm in my hobbyshop, or on one of the DIY forums.

--
"All amps sound alike, but some sound more alike than others".

[Clyde Slick]

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote
in message ...


paul packer said:

I learnt a lot from LOTR. I never knew Hobbits had hair on their feet,
or that elves could defy the laws of gravity. I'm not interested in
turntables anyway.

Here's your hero Gandalf in a role much closer to his heart:

http://301url.com/3zt


That's what happens when you grow too old to be a rent-boy.



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[paul packer]

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:47:19 +0200, Sander deWaal
wrote:

(paul packer) said:


Disagree. Cars are far less tinkerable. I don't know what kids do, but
the average motorist is certainly far less equipped to get his hands
dirty than a few years ago. I knew a lady who use to do a valve grind
on her car in the early 50s. I'd like to see that now. Anything much
beyond an oil change is a course.


A "lady" who grinded her own valve sittings?
Was her name Edna, perchance? ;-)
I guess "the outback " asks for fierce women, with hair on their
teeth, arms like trees and weiging a massive 400+ pounds..........

Actually she was a most diminuitive little lady. Very quietly spoken.
She was the first woman to join a motorcycle club in Australia (1930).
Later she owned a service station. Not surprising she did her own car
repairs. Apparently the only thing she couldn't do was take the head
of and replace it-- for that she needed her husband's help. I don't
know what he was doing the rest of the time.

[paul packer]

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 10:08:07 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



paul packer said:

Here's your hero Gandalf in a role much closer to his heart:

I was aware of the gentleman's inclinations, George, but I just happen
to think he looks much prettier as Gandalf.

Where are the shrieks of outrage? He's a man, and he's dressed as a woman!
Think of all the damage being done to innocent children and uptight prigs
who chance to come across this horrific gender-bending. You need to saddle
up your Roosinante and hop off to battle. No time to waste!

He appears to be indoors and not accosting anyone. That's the
difference.

[paul packer]

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:36:41 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:


"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote
in message ...


paul packer said:

I learnt a lot from LOTR. I never knew Hobbits had hair on their feet,
or that elves could defy the laws of gravity. I'm not interested in
turntables anyway.

Here's your hero Gandalf in a role much closer to his heart:

http://301url.com/3zt


That's what happens when you grow too old to be a rent-boy.

Or even a rent middle-aged-man. How the hell old is he anyway?
Old enough to know better, of course.

[George M. Middius]

paul packer said:

Apparently the only thing she couldn't do was take the head
of and replace it-- for that she needed her husband's help. I don't
know what he was doing the rest of the time.

I know. Here's a piccie:

http://www.nicktarr.com/nickdesertdrag2.jpg





--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[paul packer]

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:01:22 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



paul packer said:

Apparently the only thing she couldn't do was take the head
of and replace it-- for that she needed her husband's help. I don't
know what he was doing the rest of the time.

I know. Here's a piccie:

Give it up, George.

[George M. Middius]

paul packer said:


I don't know what he was doing the rest of the time.

I know. Here's a piccie:
http://www.nicktarr.com/nickdesertdrag2.jpg

Give it up, George.

Do I detect a flush of embarrassment from across cyberspace? Don't tell us
that's your long-disowned brother, paulie.




--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[JimC]

Jenn wrote:
In article ,
JimC wrote:


George M. Middius wrote:

Kalman Rubinson said:



Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.


Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.


All of the "true hobbyist" magazines seem to be dead and gone. And the
'borgs continually whine about how expensive DIY materials are. Perhaps we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.

Not at all George. - What we need is a new and even more subjective
magazine in which all the techies who know anything about how the
components work (all the round earth folks) are eliminated, leaving only
the flat earth, voodo-magic subjectionists. Anyone who knows anything
about ohms law, for example, has no business reviewing high-end audio
equipment. - He obviously could never appreciate how the equipment
actually sounds.

Right George?

Jim


Sorry for butting in, but why would knowledge of Ohms law be a
requirement for telling people how a thing sounds?


Isn't that what I just said? No one who knows anything about how the
equipment works, including how the reaction of $2,000 cables of
particular gages, as determined by ohms law, should be permitted to
review high-end audio. They just don't get it Jenn. - If you don't
believe me, ask Middius.

Jim

[Jenn]

In article ,
JimC wrote:

Jenn wrote:
In article ,
JimC wrote:


George M. Middius wrote:

Kalman Rubinson said:



Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.


Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.


All of the "true hobbyist" magazines seem to be dead and gone. And the
'borgs continually whine about how expensive DIY materials are. Perhaps we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.

Not at all George. - What we need is a new and even more subjective
magazine in which all the techies who know anything about how the
components work (all the round earth folks) are eliminated, leaving only
the flat earth, voodo-magic subjectionists. Anyone who knows anything
about ohms law, for example, has no business reviewing high-end audio
equipment. - He obviously could never appreciate how the equipment
actually sounds.

Right George?

Jim


Sorry for butting in, but why would knowledge of Ohms law be a
requirement for telling people how a thing sounds?


Isn't that what I just said?

Nope.

No one who knows anything about how the
equipment works, including how the reaction of $2,000 cables of
particular gages, as determined by ohms law, should be permitted to
review high-end audio. They just don't get it Jenn. - If you don't
believe me, ask Middius.

Jim

Nice display of smartassity, but do you have an answer for my question?

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[George M. Middius]

Queenie tries humor, but since she's an apprentice 'borg, the result is
quite ugly.

No one who knows anything about how the
equipment works, including how the reaction of $2,000 cables of
particular gages, as determined by ohms law, should be permitted to
review high-end audio.


Queenie Catie had a brain, Krooger was her god
And in her brain she had a turd
With a poo-poo here and a poo-poo there
Here a poo, there a poo, everwhere a poo-poo

Queenie Catie had a brain, Krooger was her god
And in her brain she had a fart
With a blat-blat here and a blat-blat there
Here a blat, there a blat, everwhere a blat-blat

Queenie Catie had a brain, Krooger was her god
And in her brain she took a dump
With a plop-plop here and a plop-plop there
Here a plop, there a plop, everwhere a plop-plop

Queenie Catie had a brain, Krooger was her god
And in her brain she had a short
With a FZZZT!-FZZZT! here and a FZZZT!-FZZZT! there
Here a FZZZT!, there a FZZZT!, everwhere a FZZZT!-FZZZT!

Queenie Catie had a brain, Krooger was her god




--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[Clyde Slick]

"JimC" wrote in message
. net...


Jenn wrote:
In article ,
JimC wrote:


George M. Middius wrote:

Kalman Rubinson said:



Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The Rings is
$8.99 at Costco.


Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.


All of the "true hobbyist" magazines seem to be dead and gone. And the
'borgs continually whine about how expensive DIY materials are. Perhaps
we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an
unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.

Not at all George. - What we need is a new and even more subjective
magazine in which all the techies who know anything about how the
components work (all the round earth folks) are eliminated, leaving only
the flat earth, voodo-magic subjectionists. Anyone who knows anything
about ohms law, for example, has no business reviewing high-end audio
equipment. - He obviously could never appreciate how the equipment
actually sounds.

Right George?

Jim


Sorry for butting in, but why would knowledge of Ohms law be a
requirement for telling people how a thing sounds?


Isn't that what I just said?

No



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[paul packer]

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:56:44 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



paul packer said:


I don't know what he was doing the rest of the time.

I know. Here's a piccie:
http://www.nicktarr.com/nickdesertdrag2.jpg

Give it up, George.

Do I detect a flush of embarrassment from across cyberspace? Don't tell us
that's your long-disowned brother, paulie.

You wish, George.

[George M. Middius]

paul packer said:

Do I detect a flush of embarrassment from across cyberspace? Don't tell us
that's your long-disowned brother, paulie.

You wish, George.

I have to admit you're not as dumb as most "conservatives", although you
are fully qualified on priggishness and fearfulness.





--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[paul packer]

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:00:39 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



paul packer said:

Do I detect a flush of embarrassment from across cyberspace? Don't tell us
that's your long-disowned brother, paulie.

You wish, George.

I have to admit you're not as dumb as most "conservatives", although you
are fully qualified on priggishness and fearfulness.

Fearfulness is vastly underrated.

[JimC]

Jenn wrote:

In article ,
JimC wrote:


Jenn wrote:

In article ,
JimC wrote:



George M. Middius wrote:


Kalman Rubinson said:




Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.


Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.


All of the "true hobbyist" magazines seem to be dead and gone. And the
'borgs continually whine about how expensive DIY materials are. Perhaps we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.


Not at all George. - What we need is a new and even more subjective
magazine in which all the techies who know anything about how the
components work (all the round earth folks) are eliminated, leaving only
the flat earth, voodo-magic subjectionists. Anyone who knows anything
about ohms law, for example, has no business reviewing high-end audio
equipment. - He obviously could never appreciate how the equipment
actually sounds.

Right George?

Jim


Sorry for butting in, but why would knowledge of Ohms law be a
requirement for telling people how a thing sounds?


Isn't that what I just said?


Nope.


No one who knows anything about how the
equipment works, including how the reaction of $2,000 cables of
particular gages, as determined by ohms law, should be permitted to
review high-end audio. They just don't get it Jenn. - If you don't
believe me, ask Middius.

Jim


Nice display of smartassity, but do you have an answer for my question?


The answer to your question is that a knowledge of Ohms law isn't a
prerequisite to knowing how a thing sounds. (As I suspect you know full
well, my original note was a satirical response to Middius' satirical
comment about the need for a new unbiased, Government-funded,
"objectionist" magazine, and my comment about those with a knowledge of
Ohms law was intended as referring to those with knowledge of the
scientific principles involved in audio. - As Middius so helpfully calls
them, the "Bourgs.") Nevertheless, although a knowledge of Ohms law
won't help in knowing HOW a component sounds, a reviewer with a
knowledge of Ohms law, along with other relevant principle of physics,
could tell his/her readers WHY a component sounds as it does, and HOW to
achieve desired results in a rational way. For example, buying speaker
wire of an appropriate gauge from Home Depot or the like for $30 rather
than spending $2,000 for speaker cable if the listener can't tell the
difference unless he is told which cable he is listening to. Without a
technical background, a reviewer may be at a loss to sort through the
technical jargon put out by the manufacturer of the $2,000 cables, and
therefore unable to help educate his readers as to when spending a
premium on audio gear is actually cost-effective. In my experience, many
high-end audio dealers simply take a "split the difference" approach and
suggest that the consumer should allocate about 10% of his budget to
cables and interconnects, since, after all, the chain is only as strong
as its weakest link.

By way of background, Middius and I had some discussions on RAO several
years ago, and my above comments re Middius were influenced by those
discussions over several years, although I wasn't one of his primary
interests. The gist of those discussions was that I kept trying to
steer the discussion back to audio-related topics, whereas Middius
preferred to argue with anyone with a technical background and to write
sarcastic, ad homonym poems.

Jim

[JimC]

Well, Middius, apparently my comments were of sufficient concern that
you felt it warranted spending enough of your time to compose a
four-verse poem in response.

Jim


George M. Middius wrote:


Queenie tries humor, but since she's an apprentice 'borg, the result is
quite ugly.


No one who knows anything about how the
equipment works, including how the reaction of $2,000 cables of
particular gages, as determined by ohms law, should be permitted to
review high-end audio.



Queenie Catie had a brain, Krooger was her god
And in her brain she had a turd
With a poo-poo here and a poo-poo there
Here a poo, there a poo, everwhere a poo-poo

Queenie Catie had a brain, Krooger was her god
And in her brain she had a fart
With a blat-blat here and a blat-blat there
Here a blat, there a blat, everwhere a blat-blat

Queenie Catie had a brain, Krooger was her god
And in her brain she took a dump
With a plop-plop here and a plop-plop there
Here a plop, there a plop, everwhere a plop-plop

Queenie Catie had a brain, Krooger was her god
And in her brain she had a short
With a FZZZT!-FZZZT! here and a FZZZT!-FZZZT! there
Here a FZZZT!, there a FZZZT!, everwhere a FZZZT!-FZZZT!

Queenie Catie had a brain, Krooger was her god




--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
JimC wrote:

George M. Middius wrote:

Kalman Rubinson said:


Now, $37.94 may seem like a lot, especially when Lord Of The
Rings is $8.99 at Costco.


Of course, economies of scale aside, you may learn something from
Mikey's DVD (if you are interested in the subject) which is more than
one can say about LOTR.


All of the "true hobbyist" magazines seem to be dead and gone. And the
'borgs continually whine about how expensive DIY materials are. Perhaps
we
need the government to step in with a hifi tax that will fund an
unbiased,
technical, objectivist magazine. Published by the GPO, of course, so
there's no whiff of profit motive to compromise the impartiality.


Not at all George. - What we need is a new and even more subjective
magazine in which all the techies who know anything about how the
components work (all the round earth folks) are eliminated, leaving only
the flat earth, voodo-magic subjectionists. Anyone who knows anything
about ohms law, for example, has no business reviewing high-end audio
equipment. - He obviously could never appreciate how the equipment
actually sounds.

Right George?

Jim

Sorry for butting in, but why would knowledge of Ohms law be a
requirement for telling people how a thing sounds?

So the sarcasm shot right over your head, eh Jenn?

[George M. Middius]

Queenie Catie rebels under the strictures of standard human language.

ad homonym

Queenie, Queenie wore a beanie
'Cause her brain was oh-so-teeny
Look at her and you'll think "weenie!"




--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.