[Andre Jute]

Steven R. Rochlin wrote:

Hi Everyone,

After half a ream of dumb smoke Rochlin blew (2) in the hope of boring
you into reading something else, we finally get to his reply to the
serious charges (1) against him:

-----
Andre Jute wrote:
Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent **** because the makers pay you for
advertising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute

Enjoy the Music.com reviews/mentions far more products/manufacturers who
have never advertised than those who have. If you take the time to see the
hundreds of reviews, and thousands of products within our show reports, you
would note that only a very, very small fraction advertise.

This is an admission of every charge against you, Steven R. Rochlin,
and against your shill operation, EnjoyTheMusic.

You stand accused of being "a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland
and incompetent **** because the makers pay you for adverising on your
silly site".

Your answer is that you push the bland and incompetent **** of many
others as well. Of course you do, so that you can say to them, "Look,
here is a lying review that flatters your useless ****. Advertise with
me and I'll never stop flattering your useless ****."

You're so shameless that you don't even bother to deny that at Rochlin
Ripoff Inc advertising payments buy better reviews. It is to avoid this
sort of abuse that real magazines are operated by men who know enough,
and have pride enough, and capital enough, to separate the editorial
and advertising sales functions into separate offices and executives.

In the rest of the thread in which you stand accused (1) and pretty
well proven guilty and convicted of this and other crimes against
fidelity, the usenet, honesty and decency, you will also find that your
behaviour is condemned by the professional body of advertising agents
in the US, by the professional body of publishers in the US (who
roundly applaud the 4As policy), by leading figures in consumer
protection in Washington, by the lawmakers in the US, by the EU, by a
wide variety of decent, honest people with their minds in gear. But
your answer is that you would like to commit your dishonesties on a
larger scale!

More smoke (2) snipped, as well as the usual Rochlin backscratching of
the most disgusting of the garage vermin. In ten years Rochlin hasn't
grasped that I despise him, and those he sucks up to, for his and their
selfserving claim that the usenet exists only to enrich them by
providing a free advertising channel for their substandard and, in
Rochlin's case, actually harmful, ****.

Thanks again
everyone for your posts as they have been extremely helpful for what may
become an article concerning unmoderated newsgroups.

You do that, Rochlin. We'll discover if you can actually write anything
with more backbone than that prophylactic full of Jello you resemble so
closely. In all the years of EnjoyTheMusic.Shill I haven't seen a
single example of honest text from you, or indeed from any of your
fellow-travellers in that blandly indiscriminate gush of bought
approval of crap being pushed onto unsuspecting fashion victims.

The best test of whether what you write is worthwhile is that a real
publisher will pay you real money to print the article on real paper.
If you have to publish your article on EnjoyTheMusic.VanityWarning it
is by definition rubbish.

Steven R. Rochlin
EnjoyTheMusic.HelpMeGetRichQuick

You're a disgrace, man.

Where you can find:
(several socalled "magazines" in which *all* the so-called editorial
matter is illegal advertising)

Andre Jute
Zero tolerance for greedy netscum

(1) See the thread "Not enjoying the cacaphony of the sales hack Steven
R. Rochlin abusing us to make a buck" which starts he
http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...520598 e4cf0f

(2) Here is Rochlin's complete attempt to bore eveyone to death before
they reach what little meat there is in Rochlin's watery stew of
evasions, deceits and lies:

Steven R. Rochlin wrote:

Hi Everyone,


Have been sitting back and watching the usual downward spiral, personal
attacks, sock puppets, forged postings, etc with the rec.audio.tube and
rec.audio.opinion non-moderated audio newsgroups. You have provided me with
some excellent content that may appear in a future article. Thanks for the
wonderful ebb and flow.


And now on with some replies:

NOTE: some posts were by the usual "sock puppets" or those who use others'
names to hide their own identity. My replies below simple states who the
proclaimed individual poster is, or pretends to be. This will be my only
reply to this thread for now, though may enjoy seeing your replies that
could provide more content for a possible upcoming article.

-----
Andre Jute Wed, Jul 5 2006 12:30 pm
Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent **** because the makers pay you for
adverising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute

Enjoy the Music.com reviews/mentions far more products/manufacturers who
have never advertised than those who have. If you take the time to see the
hundreds of reviews, and thousands of products within our show reports, you
would note that only a very, very small fraction advertise.

-------------------

From: George M. Middius, Wed, Jul 5 2006 2:22 pm
Are you aware that Rochelin once sold his house
in order to buy a $100K amplifier?

Incorrect on both accounts. Please show proof of your statement.

-------

From: George M. Middius, Wed, Jul 5 2006 2:22 pm
He's the sort of climber who once advised people not
to wear a Rolex too often to protect the resale value.

Incorrect. Please show proof of your statement. If anyone reading this
does own a Rolex, please wear it as often as possible since Rolex
manufacturers a very durable product.

----------
From: Navin R. Johnson, Wed, Jul 12 2006 12:21 am
hmmm..
what exactly is going on here?

-----------

From: Jon Yaeger, Wed, Jul 12 2006 12:32 am
Don't ask. You REALLY don't want to know.
Jon


Amen Jon.



Decided to not answer other posts, and of course not bother posting the
usual sock puppets, personal attacks between one another, etc. Thanks again
everyone for your posts as they have been extremely helpful for what may
become an article concerning unmoderated newsgroups.

Enjoy the Music,

Steven R. Rochlin
http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

Where you can find:
Superior Audio, The Absolute Sound,
Review Magazine, The $ensible Sound,
The Audiophile Voice... and MUCH more!

[Alan Rutlidge]

wrote in message
oups.com...
Andrew Jute McCoy whined:

Oh, fer crissakes, twit, Give it a rest. Do you NOT understand that by
continuously excreting this drivel you are only enhancing what you
purport to dislike? The only logical explanation ... OK, I understand
that you are beneath logic, but still... is that you get a kickback
from the increase in sales/reputation to your 'targets' by your puling.
However high you pile the manure, there is still no pony in it.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Peter,

I have to agree with you. Andre is now becoming a PITA.
He deserves to be killfiled.

Cheers,
Alan

[Steven R. Rochlin]

Hi Pete and Alan,

Andre did exactly as expected. His actions are perfectly in line with
Bruce Kendall's "The Ultimate Guide for the Militant Audio Enthusiast."
Andre may have missed reading my editorial last year titled "Scams, Sock
Puppets And Gorilla Marketing."
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazin...0405/scams.htm Though
pointing out this article may only further educate him and help in
fine-tuning his tactics.

Best wishes to all and in the end what really matters is that we all...

Enjoy the Music (Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here right now),

Steven R. Rochlin
http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

"So, so you think you can tell
Heaven from Hell
Blue skys from pain
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?
Did they get you to trade
Your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
And did you exchange
A walk on part in the war
For a lead role in a cage?"




"Alan Rutlidge" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
Andrew Jute McCoy whined:

Oh, fer crissakes, twit, Give it a rest. Do you NOT understand that by
continuously excreting this drivel you are only enhancing what you
purport to dislike? The only logical explanation ... OK, I understand
that you are beneath logic, but still... is that you get a kickback
from the increase in sales/reputation to your 'targets' by your puling.
However high you pile the manure, there is still no pony in it.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Peter,

I have to agree with you. Andre is now becoming a PITA.
He deserves to be killfiled.

Cheers,
Alan

[Sander deWaal]

"Steven R. Rochlin" said:


Best wishes to all and in the end what really matters is that we all...

Enjoy the Music (Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here right now),


Funny, that.
I was just thinking of Syd Barret and searching for "Atom heart
Mother" in my CD archive.

May he rest in peace.

--
"All amps sound alike, but some sound more alike than others".

[Mark S]

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Steven R. Rochlin" said:


Best wishes to all and in the end what really matters is that we all...

Enjoy the Music (Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here right now),


Funny, that.
I was just thinking of Syd Barret and searching for "Atom heart
Mother" in my CD archive.


Cool. Last night I pulled out "A Nice Pair" from my LP collection. Stole it
from my college radio station in the '70's.... Shine On!
M

[ScottW]

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Steven R. Rochlin" said:


Best wishes to all and in the end what really matters is that we all...

Enjoy the Music (Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here right now),


Funny, that.
I was just thinking of Syd Barret and searching for "Atom heart
Mother" in my CD archive.

One of my favorite pieces of vinyl... but Syd is nowhere to
be found on it. I'll give a A Madcap Laughs a listen
tonight.

ScottW

[Sander deWaal]

"ScottW" said:


Enjoy the Music (Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here right now),


Funny, that.
I was just thinking of Syd Barret and searching for "Atom heart
Mother" in my CD archive.


One of my favorite pieces of vinyl... but Syd is nowhere to
be found on it. I'll give a A Madcap Laughs a listen
tonight.


I am ashamed to admit that I had to actually read the album sleeve to
discover that fact.

I must be getting old.

--
"All amps sound alike, but some sound more alike than others".

[Ayn Marx]

Andre Jute wrote:
Steven R. Rochlin wrote:

Hi Everyone,

After half a ream of dumb smoke Rochlin blew (2) etc...............

Please stop crossposting this to Aus.Hi-Fi..............no-ones
interested.

[paul packer]

On 14 Jul 2006 21:21:15 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:


Here is the public-service text this retired whorehouse keeper Ayn Marx
objects to, presumably on the grounds that immoral undesirables like
she and Rochlin should flock together like cockroaches conspiring to
spread disease; others of this opinion are Alan Rutlidge the child sex
tourist, Peter "Witless" Wiecky the Magnequest Scum surrogate, and the
crooked garage vermin Jon Yaeger. With that cast of characters in
agreement, the rest of us need to keep our hands on our wallets.

You haven't been cross-pollinating with Phil Allison, have you, Andre?
:-)

[Alan Rutlidge]

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
ups.com...
Ayn Marx wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
Steven R. Rochlin wrote:

Hi Everyone,

After half a ream of dumb smoke Rochlin blew (2) etc...............

Please stop crossposting this to Aus.Hi-Fi..............no-ones
interested.

Amazing how many of the socalled "audiophiles" whose chequebooks are
bigger than their taste or their common sense want to defend Steven R
Rochlin. This particular fashion victim, Ayn Marx, once tried to shut
me out of a conversation by providing a complete list of the audio gear
she owns. She assured me it was expensive, so it must be; I wouldn't
know as I never heard of the brands she mentioned. She is the perfect
example of a victim of Rochlin's greed.

Andre, are you even more stupid than you look?
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/

Is that patch on your head where someone hit you with a baseball bat?
If not, pity you deserve to have some sense knocked into you. :P

If you've never heard of the VPI Aries T/T, JMW Memorial 10.5 tonearm,
Garrott Optim FGS cartridge or the Manley Steelhead phono preamp I suggest
you have NFI about hi-fi. Maybe you should consider gettting a bit of an
education about quality hi-end audio components.
http://vpiindustries.com/aries2.htm
http://www.garrottbrothers.com/opt.html
http://www.manleylabs.com/containerpages/STEELHEAD.html



Here .........; others of this opinion are Alan Rutlidge the child sex
tourist,

I'm assuming you have some convincing evidence to back up this claim Andre?
Where are you posting from again?
I'm sure the law in your country won't protect you from having a defamation
suit raised against you.


Peter "Witless" Wiecky the Magnequest Scum surrogate, and the
crooked garage vermin Jon Yaeger. With that cast of characters in
agreement, the rest of us need to keep our hands on our wallets.

I'm glad you have your hand firmly on your wallet Andre. Just don't spend
too much money.
You might need it for your brief.


Andre Jute
Zero tolerance for greedy netscum


Alan Rutlidge
Zero tolerance for liars like Andre Jute :P

[soundhaspriority]

"Alan Rutlidge" wrote in message
...

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
ups.com...
Ayn Marx wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
Steven R. Rochlin wrote:

Hi Everyone,

After half a ream of dumb smoke Rochlin blew (2) etc...............

Please stop crossposting this to Aus.Hi-Fi..............no-ones
interested.

Amazing how many of the socalled "audiophiles" whose chequebooks are
bigger than their taste or their common sense want to defend Steven R
Rochlin. This particular fashion victim, Ayn Marx, once tried to shut
me out of a conversation by providing a complete list of the audio gear
she owns. She assured me it was expensive, so it must be; I wouldn't
know as I never heard of the brands she mentioned. She is the perfect
example of a victim of Rochlin's greed.

Andre, are you even more stupid than you look?
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/

Is that patch on your head where someone hit you with a baseball bat?
If not, pity you deserve to have some sense knocked into you. :P

If you've never heard of the VPI Aries T/T, JMW Memorial 10.5 tonearm,
Garrott Optim FGS cartridge or the Manley Steelhead phono preamp I suggest
you have NFI about hi-fi. Maybe you should consider gettting a bit of an
education about quality hi-end audio components.
http://vpiindustries.com/aries2.htm
http://www.garrottbrothers.com/opt.html
http://www.manleylabs.com/containerpages/STEELHEAD.html



Here .........; others of this opinion are Alan Rutlidge the child sex
tourist,

I'm assuming you have some convincing evidence to back up this claim Andre?
Where are you posting from again?
I'm sure the law in your country won't protect you from having a defamation
suit raised against you.


Peter "Witless" Wiecky the Magnequest Scum surrogate, and the
crooked garage vermin Jon Yaeger. With that cast of characters in
agreement, the rest of us need to keep our hands on our wallets.

I'm glad you have your hand firmly on your wallet Andre. Just don't spend
too much money.
You might need it for your brief.


Andre Jute
Zero tolerance for greedy netscum


Alan Rutlidge
Zero tolerance for liars like Andre Jute :P




Sorry guys, Forgery.

Luv,
Robert Morein
Shop 'N Bag, Pennsylvania

[paul packer]

On 13 Jul 2006 05:40:00 -0700, " wrote:

Andrew Jute McCoy whined:

What is this man's name, anyway?

I know he's got a hole in his head, but surely he knows his own name.

[[email protected]]

Andrew Jute McCoy committed a whining exudation consisting of:

Amazing how many of the socalled "audiophiles" whose chequebooks are
bigger than their taste or their common sense want to defend Steven R
Rochlin.

Last I looked, there was damned little defense of Mr. Rochlin here, and
quite a bit of disdain (or worse) for Mr. McCoy. Answering a couple of
questions asked in this thread:

Is Mr. McCoy more stupid than he looks?

Well, that makes the assumption that it is on some scale of comparison
that such a descriptive would be relevant and applicable. It is
obsessive, socially inept and though clever with words, not terribly
bright. So, with those handicaps, "Stupid" is not applicable as its
behavior is entirely beyond its control.

As to any sort of suit for defamation against it, consider: That one
would win is obvious, even in an Irish court where Blarney is a given
and looked at somewhat favorably. But what would one gain?

Its assets (being generous):

A clapped out bicycle. Maybe two.
A SET amplifier that does not work and of dubious salvage value.
Speakers fit only for Gregorian Chant at low volume
Possibly other similarly spavined, limited audio gear, but of dubious
value as well.
298 copies of each of its titles from a number of vanity publishers.
The full print run less two, of course.
Various personal items that Goodwill would refuse.
Its entire bank account or a pint of Guiness... the latter will be
worth more.
Its future earnings less basic living expenses...

In other words, a collosal waste of time for no possible worthwhile
gain.

As to its name: There is a listing in Cork, Ireland for Andre Jute.
That it is its real name is unlikely. Under Published Authors, it lists
an Andrew Jute McCoy as a writer of hackneyed fiction on common themes.
The reviews are pretty dreadful.

But as every other part and piece of its sad, silly, desperately
unhappy and frustrated existence is a lie, or based on lies, why not
the name as just another affectation along with its other assumed
expertise?

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[Ayn Marx]

wrote:
Andrew Jute McCoy committed a whining exudation consisting of:

Amazing how many of the socalled "audiophiles" whose chequebooks are
bigger than their taste or their common sense want to defend Steven R
Rochlin.

Last I looked, there was damned little defense of Mr. Rochlin here,

Where's 'here'?

Please cease cross posting this pointless drivel to Aus. Hi. Thank you.

[George M. Middius]

Wiecky said:

Last I looked,

Apparently you admit to being the one who abetted the psycho Bwian McSlander
in attempting to smear Robert Morein. How pathetic is that, Wiecky?




--
A day without Krooger is like a day without radiation poisoning.