I posted a few comments to the thread " Heavy laminated wood horns sound best "
since it interested me.

I note that not a single one of those posts where I commented on technical
issues received a response, yet the ones that involved 'tittle-tattle' were far
more popular.

Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ? Middius don't even bother
replying.

Just asking you know.

Time for a Newgroup ? rec.audio.old-women ?

Graham

Pooh Bear wrote:
I posted a few comments to the thread " Heavy laminated wood horns sound best "
since it interested me.

I note that not a single one of those posts where I commented on technical
issues received a response, yet the ones that involved 'tittle-tattle' were far
more popular.

Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ? Middius don't even bother
replying.

Just asking you know.

Time for a Newgroup ? rec.audio.old-women ?

Graham

I do but I don't have any experience or interest in horns so......
.....and I know RAO is pretty much a ********. RAHE is too slow to get
a decent conversation going and is pretty much the same boring bs
(vinyl vs CD or DBT vs sighted).

So what are you going to do about it?

ScottW

In article ,
Pooh Bear wrote:

I posted a few comments to the thread " Heavy laminated wood horns sound best
"
since it interested me.

I note that not a single one of those posts where I commented on technical
issues received a response, yet the ones that involved 'tittle-tattle' were
far
more popular.

Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ?

I do, but I have no experience with the use of horns in home audio. I
did hear the Avantgarde Trio in a store once. Sounded pretty good.

Pooh Bear said:


Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ?


I do, I just don't give a damn about horns (in domestic audio, that
is).

Start talking about Maggies, MOSFETs, tubes or class A, and I'm all
ears!

--

- Never argue with idiots, they drag you down their level and beat you with experience. -

Poopie Bear said:

Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ? Middius don't even bother
replying.

Too late for that Poopie.

Perhaps you are oblivious to your how your snotty pronouncements about
gear you disapprove of are perceived by Normals. Would you like me to
explain the impression you make when you say "antique technology"?

Anyway, we all know the dirty truth about you, Poopie: You're pushing 80
years of age, you've been retired from your job as a studio flunkie for
decades, and you're deaf as a post. Nobody puts any stock in your tin-pot
opinions because you're reduced to a whiney little troll. And you're a
Kroopologist. I wouldn't be surprised if you're so far gone you don't even
know how ****ty your alliance with Turdborg makes you look.





--
A day without Krooger is like a day without arsenic.

Sander deWaal wrote:
Pooh Bear said:


Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ?


I do, I just don't give a damn about horns (in domestic audio, that
is).

Start talking about Maggies, MOSFETs, tubes or class A, and I'm all
ears!

Personally, theory aside, I have never heard a dipole system that
didn't sound strange to me. And single ended triodes, sans feedback,
have the properties of the northbound parts of a southbound mare with a
40 knot wind at a 310 degree heading- immediately after being
serviced.

NOBODY here gives a **** !

If it started in r.a.o. then bloody keep it there you trouble maker.
The only thing that some people want to do is friggen argue.
It ****es me off no end, the number of people that carry on like KIDS.
Aren't you people interested in audio any more ?

Dezza.

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote
in message ...


Poopie Bear said:

Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ? Middius don't even
bother
replying.

Too late for that Poopie.


Good job George. You really made his point.

ScottW

Bret Ludwig wrote:

Sander deWaal wrote:
Pooh Bear said:

Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ?

I do, I just don't give a damn about horns (in domestic audio, that
is).

Start talking about Maggies, MOSFETs, tubes or class A, and I'm all
ears!

I may indeed get round to talking about mosfets and operating in deep class AB
where it's class A up to several watts.

Personally, theory aside, I have never heard a dipole system that
didn't sound strange to me. And single ended triodes, sans feedback,
have the properties of the northbound parts of a southbound mare with a
40 knot wind at a 310 degree heading- immediately after being
serviced.

I'm afraid your equestrian comparison eluded me. Care to translate ?

Graham

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Poopie Bear said:

Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ? Middius don't even bother
replying.

Too late for that Poopie.

Perhaps you are oblivious to your how your snotty pronouncements about
gear you disapprove of are perceived by Normals.

I upset your tender feelings did I ?

Would you like me to
explain the impression you make when you say "antique technology"?

Do please.

The below is so wildly and insanely far off the mark as not to be worth any further
comment. I'm 51 btw.

Graham

Anyway, we all know the dirty truth about you, Poopie: You're pushing 80
years of age, you've been retired from your job as a studio flunkie for
decades, and you're deaf as a post. Nobody puts any stock in your tin-pot
opinions because you're reduced to a whiney little troll. And you're a
Kroopologist. I wouldn't be surprised if you're so far gone you don't even
know how ****ty your alliance with Turdborg makes you look.

Terrierdork barked:

Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ? Middius don't even
bother replying.

Too late for that Poopie.

Perhaps you are oblivious to your how your snotty pronouncements about
gear you disapprove of are perceived by Normals. Would you like me to
explain the impression you make when you say "antique technology"?

Anyway, we all know the dirty truth about you, Poopie: You're pushing 80
years of age, you've been retired from your job as a studio flunkie for
decades, and you're deaf as a post. Nobody puts any stock in your tin-pot
opinions because you're reduced to a whiney little troll. And you're a
Kroopologist. I wouldn't be surprised if you're so far gone you don't even
know how ****ty your alliance with Turdborg makes you look.

Good job George. You really made his point.

As usual, you didn't hear a word I said. Or maybe (dun-dun-DUN!) you're
back in the Kroopologism fold.

Before you whine about me talking over your head again, here's the
Usenet-for-dummies translation: Poopie B'ar is a worthless troll and a
brain-dead ideologue. Sort of like you, except not as dumb.






--
A day without Krooger is like a day without arsenic.

Poopie Bear growled:

Anyway, we all know the dirty truth about you, Poopie: You're pushing 80
years of age, you've been retired from your job as a studio flunkie for
decades, and you're deaf as a post. Nobody puts any stock in your tin-pot
opinions because you're reduced to a whiney little troll. And you're a
Kroopologist. I wouldn't be surprised if you're so far gone you don't even
know how ****ty your alliance with Turdborg makes you look.

I'm 51 btw.

Nobody believes that. At best, you're a prematurely doddering 65.



--
A day without Krooger is like a day without arsenic.

dezza wrote:
NOBODY here gives a **** !

If it started in r.a.o. then bloody keep it there you trouble maker.
The only thing that some people want to do is friggen argue.
It ****es me off no end, the number of people that carry on like KIDS.
Aren't you people interested in audio any more ?

I you want a refuge from all that childish bitching why not try a
moderated forum?

http://forum.aushifi.com/index.php

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
...
I posted a few comments to the thread " Heavy laminated wood horns sound
best "
since it interested me.

I note that not a single one of those posts where I commented on technical
issues received a response, yet the ones that involved 'tittle-tattle'
were far
more popular.

Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ? Middius don't even
bother
replying.

Just asking you know.

Time for a Newgroup ? rec.audio.old-women ?

Graham

Graham, I don't like the sound of horns. I went to the NY Hifi Show a few
years ago, and received a cornucopia of experience.

Each of us who snaps out at another is in some way responsible for what
r.a.o. has become. You got mad at me a while back, and made a couple of
remarks in which you derided what you felt was my ignorance. In fact, we
were not using mutually understood terms, which should have been resolvable
without the fireworks. I can only tell you that when Sander posts something,
I usually respond, because I know that the worst I'll get from him is a
polite disagreement.

Now, as Gandhi said, I'm not a saint trying to be a sinner; I'm a sinner
trying to be a saint. So when you think about this, try not to think about
all the faults I have. Each of us works most effectively on ourself, not
another.

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote
in message ...


Poopie Bear growled:

Anyway, we all know the dirty truth about you, Poopie: You're pushing
80
years of age, you've been retired from your job as a studio flunkie for
decades, and you're deaf as a post. Nobody puts any stock in your
tin-pot
opinions because you're reduced to a whiney little troll. And you're a
Kroopologist. I wouldn't be surprised if you're so far gone you don't
even
know how ****ty your alliance with Turdborg makes you look.

I'm 51 btw.

Nobody believes that. At best, you're a prematurely doddering 65.

George, he's got Mad Cow. Clinically, it is hard to distinguish.

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote
in message ...

Good job George. You really made his point.

As usual, you didn't hear a word I said. Or maybe (dun-dun-DUN!) you're
back in the Kroopologism fold.

Before you whine about me talking over your head again, here's the
Usenet-for-dummies translation: Poopie B'ar is a worthless troll and a
brain-dead ideologue. Sort of like you, except not as dumb.

Actually George, he gave me some good suggestions for getting the
best sound out of my quads. What have you ever suggested to
help anyone?
And provide references. Be interesting if in all your years on usenet
you can make a case for your existence that doesn't depend on Arny.

ScottW

On 26 May 2006 18:53:29 -0700, "Ayn Marx"
wrote:


dezza wrote:
NOBODY here gives a **** !

If it started in r.a.o. then bloody keep it there you trouble maker.
The only thing that some people want to do is friggen argue.
It ****es me off no end, the number of people that carry on like KIDS.
Aren't you people interested in audio any more ?

I you want a refuge from all that childish bitching why not try a
moderated forum?

http://forum.aushifi.com/index.php

Never miss an opportunity, eh, Ayn?

In article ,
George M. Middius cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net
wrote:

The usual ****e. Why do you insist on crossposting this rubbish to ukra,
worm?

--
*If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

paul packer said:

I you want a refuge from all that childish bitching why not try a
moderated forum?

Never miss an opportunity, eh, Ayn?

I thought you two were going to get a room.





--
A day without Krooger is like a day without arsenic.

On Sat, 27 May 2006 09:03:36 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



paul packer said:

I you want a refuge from all that childish bitching why not try a
moderated forum?

Never miss an opportunity, eh, Ayn?

I thought you two were going to get a room.

And who says we're not?

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
...
I posted a few comments to the thread " Heavy laminated wood horns sound
best "
since it interested me.

I note that not a single one of those posts where I commented on technical
issues received a response, yet the ones that involved 'tittle-tattle'
were far
more popular.

Do many ppl here actually give a damn about audio ? Middius don't even
bother
replying.

No. People who give a damn about audio discuss it elsewhere--certainly not
on r.a.o. R.a.o. is strictly about venting outrage

Norm Strong

Uncle Troll stammered:

R.a.o. is strictly about venting outrage

No, that's not true. For some of us, it's strictly about mocking the
feeble-minded.





--
A day without Krooger is like a day without arsenic.

"Bret Ludwig" said:


Sander deWaal wrote:


Start talking about Maggies, MOSFETs, tubes or class A, and I'm all
ears!


Personally, theory aside, I have never heard a dipole system that
didn't sound strange to me. And single ended triodes, sans feedback,
have the properties of the northbound parts of a southbound mare with a
40 knot wind at a 310 degree heading- immediately after being
serviced.



I'm not a fan of SE triodes either.
Push pull class A still rules.

Prefering dipoles (or horns) or not is just a matter of taste, you
won't hear a sqeak about that from me.

--

- Never argue with idiots, they drag you down their level and beat you with experience. -

Pooh Bear said:


Sander is a saint.


Far from that, I'm afraid.
Like Arny, you'll have to work on your perception ;-)

--

- Never argue with idiots, they drag you down their level and beat you with experience. -

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Bret Ludwig" said:


Sander deWaal wrote:


Start talking about Maggies, MOSFETs, tubes or class A, and I'm all
ears!


Personally, theory aside, I have never heard a dipole system that
didn't sound strange to me. And single ended triodes, sans feedback,
have the properties of the northbound parts of a southbound mare with a
40 knot wind at a 310 degree heading- immediately after being
serviced.



I'm not a fan of SE triodes either.
Push pull class A still rules.

Prefering dipoles (or horns) or not is just a matter of taste, you
won't hear a sqeak about that from me.

The few occasions I've had to seriously listen to dipoles
that imaged really well... either had lots of space behind the speakers
or some very serious front wall treatments. My own setup had some space
to the front wall but another pair of big box speakers
and big screen TV behind the speakers which probably
contributed to early reflections.
My rear diffusers really cleaned things up IMO and actually increased
soundstage depth and smoothed response.

ScottW

In article 5V3eg.33772$fG3.27665@dukeread09,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Bret Ludwig" said:


Sander deWaal wrote:


Start talking about Maggies, MOSFETs, tubes or class A, and I'm all
ears!


Personally, theory aside, I have never heard a dipole system that
didn't sound strange to me. And single ended triodes, sans feedback,
have the properties of the northbound parts of a southbound mare with a
40 knot wind at a 310 degree heading- immediately after being
serviced.



I'm not a fan of SE triodes either.
Push pull class A still rules.

Prefering dipoles (or horns) or not is just a matter of taste, you
won't hear a sqeak about that from me.

The few occasions I've had to seriously listen to dipoles
that imaged really well... either had lots of space behind the speakers
or some very serious front wall treatments. My own setup had some space
to the front wall but another pair of big box speakers
and big screen TV behind the speakers which probably
contributed to early reflections.
My rear diffusers really cleaned things up IMO and actually increased
soundstage depth and smoothed response.

ScottW

You're leaving me your Quads in your will, right? ;-)

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article 5V3eg.33772$fG3.27665@dukeread09,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Bret Ludwig" said:


Sander deWaal wrote:


Start talking about Maggies, MOSFETs, tubes or class A, and I'm all
ears!


Personally, theory aside, I have never heard a dipole system that
didn't sound strange to me. And single ended triodes, sans feedback,
have the properties of the northbound parts of a southbound mare with a
40 knot wind at a 310 degree heading- immediately after being
serviced.



I'm not a fan of SE triodes either.
Push pull class A still rules.

Prefering dipoles (or horns) or not is just a matter of taste, you
won't hear a sqeak about that from me.

The few occasions I've had to seriously listen to dipoles
that imaged really well... either had lots of space behind the speakers
or some very serious front wall treatments. My own setup had some space
to the front wall but another pair of big box speakers
and big screen TV behind the speakers which probably
contributed to early reflections.
My rear diffusers really cleaned things up IMO and actually increased
soundstage depth and smoothed response.

ScottW

You're leaving me your Quads in your will, right? ;-)

Am I dying?

But why wait.
Hear you go... with stands.

http://www.jeffssoundvalues.com/Inventory/Speakers.htm

ScottW

In article R44eg.33773$fG3.11308@dukeread09,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article 5V3eg.33772$fG3.27665@dukeread09,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Bret Ludwig" said:


Sander deWaal wrote:


Start talking about Maggies, MOSFETs, tubes or class A, and I'm all
ears!


Personally, theory aside, I have never heard a dipole system that
didn't sound strange to me. And single ended triodes, sans feedback,
have the properties of the northbound parts of a southbound mare with a
40 knot wind at a 310 degree heading- immediately after being
serviced.



I'm not a fan of SE triodes either.
Push pull class A still rules.

Prefering dipoles (or horns) or not is just a matter of taste, you
won't hear a sqeak about that from me.

The few occasions I've had to seriously listen to dipoles
that imaged really well... either had lots of space behind the speakers
or some very serious front wall treatments. My own setup had some space
to the front wall but another pair of big box speakers
and big screen TV behind the speakers which probably
contributed to early reflections.
My rear diffusers really cleaned things up IMO and actually increased
soundstage depth and smoothed response.

ScottW

You're leaving me your Quads in your will, right? ;-)

Am I dying?

I hope not.

But why wait.
Hear you go... with stands.

http://www.jeffssoundvalues.com/Inventory/Speakers.htm

ScottW

LOL thanks. Next year, I think.

"Jenn" wrote in message
...

You're leaving me your Quads in your will, right? ;-)

Am I dying?

I hope not.

But why wait.
Hear you go... with stands.

http://www.jeffssoundvalues.com/Inventory/Speakers.htm

ScottW

LOL thanks. Next year, I think.

Look what you did though in your innocence.
See what they have in the analogue section?

A Clearaudio Evolution with Tangent arm.

A picture is here
http://aca.gr/turntable_a.htm

You didn't by any chance give one of these or similar
a listen when you were searching for a table?

ScottW

In article Op4eg.33776$fG3.17281@dukeread09,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message
...

You're leaving me your Quads in your will, right? ;-)

Am I dying?

I hope not.

But why wait.
Hear you go... with stands.

http://www.jeffssoundvalues.com/Inventory/Speakers.htm

ScottW

LOL thanks. Next year, I think.

Look what you did though in your innocence.
See what they have in the analogue section?

A Clearaudio Evolution with Tangent arm.

A picture is here
http://aca.gr/turntable_a.htm

You didn't by any chance give one of these or similar
a listen when you were searching for a table?

ScottW

I heard them; fantastic. Beyond my budget, however, so I got the
Clearaudio Emotion and arm. A huge portion of the performance at a much
small cost. I love it.

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article Op4eg.33776$fG3.17281@dukeread09,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message
...

You're leaving me your Quads in your will, right? ;-)

Am I dying?

I hope not.

But why wait.
Hear you go... with stands.

http://www.jeffssoundvalues.com/Inventory/Speakers.htm

ScottW

LOL thanks. Next year, I think.

Look what you did though in your innocence.
See what they have in the analogue section?

A Clearaudio Evolution with Tangent arm.

A picture is here
http://aca.gr/turntable_a.htm

You didn't by any chance give one of these or similar
a listen when you were searching for a table?

ScottW

I heard them; fantastic. Beyond my budget, however, so I got the
Clearaudio Emotion and arm. A huge portion of the performance at a much
small cost. I love it.

That last little bit of incremental improvement doubles the cost.
But I'm sold on Linear Trackers... I might have to go check this
one out.

ScottW

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
Pooh Bear said:


Sander is a saint.


Far from that, I'm afraid.
Like Arny, you'll have to work on your perception ;-)

Sander, we know you were only the third person in an hour to use the
"soundhaspriority" id as a sockpuppet.
Confess! Confess now, and save your immortal soul!!!
You have already?
Well then, ummm. Show a little compassion for all the bent sockpuppets in
the World.
Or roast in the Eternal Fires with Brian L. McCarty as a cellmate!!!!
Bwahahahahahahahahha!!!

paul packer wrote:


I you want a refuge from all that childish bitching why not try a
moderated forum?

http://forum.aushifi.com/index.php

Never miss an opportunity, eh, Ayn?

There have been many others but I've restrained myself. If you really
want me availing of every single one, I will.

ScottW wrote:
"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article Op4eg.33776$fG3.17281@dukeread09,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message
...

You're leaving me your Quads in your will, right? ;-)

Am I dying?

I hope not.

But why wait.
Hear you go... with stands.

http://www.jeffssoundvalues.com/Inventory/Speakers.htm

ScottW

LOL thanks. Next year, I think.

Look what you did though in your innocence.
See what they have in the analogue section?

A Clearaudio Evolution with Tangent arm.

A picture is here
http://aca.gr/turntable_a.htm

You didn't by any chance give one of these or similar
a listen when you were searching for a table?

ScottW

I heard them; fantastic. Beyond my budget, however, so I got the
Clearaudio Emotion and arm. A huge portion of the performance at a much
small cost. I love it.

That last little bit of incremental improvement doubles the cost.
But I'm sold on Linear Trackers... I might have to go check this
one out.

ScottW

BTW, where do you go down there to listen to stuff... Stereo Unlimited?

On Sat, 27 May 2006 13:09:32 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



Uncle Troll stammered:

R.a.o. is strictly about venting outrage

No, that's not true. For some of us, it's strictly about mocking the
feeble-minded.

In that case there could be some mocking in your future, George.
You're not getting any younger.

"Jenn" wrote in message
oups.com...

ScottW wrote:
"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article Op4eg.33776$fG3.17281@dukeread09,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message
...

You're leaving me your Quads in your will, right? ;-)

Am I dying?

I hope not.

But why wait.
Hear you go... with stands.

http://www.jeffssoundvalues.com/Inventory/Speakers.htm

ScottW

LOL thanks. Next year, I think.

Look what you did though in your innocence.
See what they have in the analogue section?

A Clearaudio Evolution with Tangent arm.

A picture is here
http://aca.gr/turntable_a.htm

You didn't by any chance give one of these or similar
a listen when you were searching for a table?

ScottW

I heard them; fantastic. Beyond my budget, however, so I got the
Clearaudio Emotion and arm. A huge portion of the performance at a
much
small cost. I love it.

That last little bit of incremental improvement doubles the cost.
But I'm sold on Linear Trackers... I might have to go check this
one out.

ScottW

BTW, where do you go down there to listen to stuff... Stereo Unlimited?

Jeffs Sound Values that I referenced in Chula Vista are pretty nice
easy going folks.

Stereo Design on Clairemont Mesa Blvd has some real nice listening
rooms but I've never been down there. I hear its OK with a bit of
elitism
http://www.stereodesign.com/

Heres a good list...
http://www.sandiegobizmart.com/in_sa..._san_diego.htm

I can't say I've been in many of these stores.

ScottW

On Sat, 27 May 2006 21:00:47 +0200, Sander deWaal
wrote:

Pooh Bear said:


Sander is a saint.


Far from that, I'm afraid.

True.

Check out the Atma-spheres, if they still carry them.
Atma-spheres and Sound LAbs, best I ever heard.
NExt best, ATma-spheres and the Vandersteen 2ci, also heard there

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
[dot] net wrote in message

Uncle Troll stammered:

R.a.o. is strictly about venting outrage

No, that's not true. For some of us, it's strictly about
mocking the feeble-minded.

If it wasn't for the opportunities to mock your feeble mind Middius, I'd
never respond to your posts.

"Robert Morein" said:


Sander, we know you were only the third person in an hour to use the
"soundhaspriority" id as a sockpuppet.


Not me, not recently.
I've seen "soundhaspriority" posts coming from "buzzardnews" lately,
however.

--

- Never argue with idiots, they drag you down their level and beat you with experience. -