http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37244

Interesting article if true. Kerry might find his deep pockets
wife has some skeletons in her closet.

ScottW

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:20:38 -0800, "ScottW"
wrote:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37244

Interesting article if true. Kerry might find his deep pockets
wife has some skeletons in her closet.

Yeah, let's not forget that those charged with crimes don't deserve a
defense, especially bad dictators.

And god knows, those darn homosexuals, besides wanting to gasp
subject children to ridicule and a metaphoric tar-and-feahering, they
actually have the nerve to politically organize. What do you think
this is, America or something? Anyone who gives money to an
organization which supports them should be ashamed of themselves.

Yep, Joseph Farah strikes again with his "independent" viewpoint.

ScottW wrote:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37244

Interesting article if true. Kerry might find his deep pockets
wife has some skeletons in her closet.

I'll preface this by saying I'm not a Kerry supporter. I don't
like him. This is not an apologia for John Kerry.......

The referenced article is Orwellian Misdirection at its best.

Wow! I like her (TH Kerry) even more now. She was, until
recently, a registered Republican. So I'm surprised she has a
history of supporting liberal causes. You should note that much
of the article is idle speculation that attempts to make
connections between organizations her organization supports and
terrorist groups. Not only is that a weak rhetorical trick, but
it's not executed very well, either.

BTW, do you get a lot of your news from WND? It looks a lot like
a supermarket tabloid for right-wing nutjobs, yet you seem like a
reasonable and measured guy. There are ads for books by Michael
Savage, Dr. Laura, and David Limbaugh. There's content by guys
like David Frum. There are ads for books positing links between
the OK City bombers and Islam. What I'm getting at here is that I
don't think a serious Republican would want to have anything to
do with this publication.

As for a candidate's wife being a liability, I think that's
pathetic. It's likely, but it's pathetic. (You *do* know that
while in high-school Laura Bush ran a stop-sign and crashed into
a friend's car, killing him, don't you? Plus, she's got that
glazed-over look that I've come to associate with people on
Haldol and Lithium). Besides, I'd rather have a president whose
spouse has ties to an organization who has ties to other
organizations who have **VERY TENUOUS, UNPROVEN** ties to
organizations that have been accused of having terroristic ties
than a *president* who has MUCH CLOSER ties to terrorism. (Think
Bandar bin Sultan, AKA Bandar Bush's wife and her Islamic
Charities, Carlyle Group, Global bin Laden, et. al. Kerry's ties
are via three or four degrees of separation from his WIFE, but
Bush's ties are via one degree of separation to HIM.)

GZ

"Le Artiste" wrote in message
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"ScottW" emitted :

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37244

Interesting article if true. Kerry might find his deep pockets
wife has some skeletons in her closet.

According to the article Teresa Heinz indirectly or directly supports
reformation of the death penalty, abortion rights, homosexuals rights,
gun control, needle exchange programs, euthanasia (presumably seeking
to reform laws), legal defense for people who may be vulnerable to
mistreatment under new terrorism laws, civil and human rights etc. The
journalist who wrote the article seems to have an agenda - tries to
portray many of these things as "bad things". Then there's cheap shots
like suggesting tenuous links to terrorist organizations, without
providing any substance or background to the accusation.

Sort the wheat from the chaff, as they say.. :-)

Well, what did you expect from Scottie? This is the kind of mental diet he
feeds off of day in and day out. Seems he's allergic to healthy mind food.

"Glenn Zelniker" wrote

You *do* know that
while in high-school Laura Bush ran a stop-sign and crashed into
a friend's car, killing him, don't you? Plus, she's got that
glazed-over look that I've come to associate with people on
Haldol and Lithium).

Gee, my wife and I have viewed her for years as a "Stepford Wife". Creepy.
Reallllly creepy.

Glenn Zelniker wrote in message ...
ScottW wrote:

BTW, do you get a lot of your news from WND?

Nah, I picked it up off the Savage Nation web page.
I thought it made good counterpoint to the Democratic Underground
which is settling over the group like peat moss in the bottom of a bog.

ScottW

Glenn Zelniker wrote in message
...
Kerry's ties are via three or four degrees of separation from his WIFE,
but Bush's ties are via one degree of separation to HIM.)

Ah Glenn, surely you are not trying to make something of the fact that
W's daddy and Osamar bin Laden's daddy are not only friends but have
business connections. Why, that would be unfair. I am sure that these
connections have _no_ influence on the president's behavior. It
would be churlish to suggest otherwise. :-)

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

John Atkinson wrote:

Glenn Zelniker wrote in message
...
Kerry's ties are via three or four degrees of separation from his WIFE,
but Bush's ties are via one degree of separation to HIM.)

Ah Glenn, surely you are not trying to make something of the fact that
W's daddy and Osamar bin Laden's daddy are not only friends but have
business connections. Why, that would be unfair. I am sure that these
connections have _no_ influence on the president's behavior. It
would be churlish to suggest otherwise. :-)

Atkonsoin its like your deceptions would have us believe you're
not the Osama Ben Ladin of audio? NoT! Speaking of business
connections Atkoninson, thank you for admitting your writers are
ideologically blinkered from being consultants to audio companys
but still give favorable reviews of their product's in your
ragazine. ;-)

GZ

ScottW said:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37244

Interesting article if true. Kerry might find his deep pockets
wife has some skeletons in her closet.

Actually, the whole article is a series of strained connections and twisted
wording. Saying she supports "Islamists" sounds really close to "terrorists,"
when all she did was donate to a charity that supports Muslims. It's amazing
how much our language has been corrupted in the last two and a half years.

Boon

"John Atkinson" wrote in message
om...
Glenn Zelniker wrote in message
...
Kerry's ties are via three or four degrees of separation from his WIFE,
but Bush's ties are via one degree of separation to HIM.)

Ah Glenn, surely you are not trying to make something of the fact that
W's daddy and Osamar bin Laden's daddy are not only friends but have
business connections.

There's nothing to make of it. Unless of course you're an idiot.

Why, that would be unfair. I am sure that these
connections have _no_ influence on the president's behavior. It
would be churlish to suggest otherwise. :-)

Exactly.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Michael McKelvy wrote:

"John Atkinson" wrote in message
om...

Glenn Zelniker wrote in message
...

Kerry's ties are via three or four degrees of separation from his WIFE,
but Bush's ties are via one degree of separation to HIM.)

Ah Glenn, surely you are not trying to make something of the fact that
W's daddy and Osamar bin Laden's daddy are not only friends but have
business connections.

There's nothing to make of it. Unless of course you're an idiot.

Open your ****ing eyes, Mike!!!! Are you really this much of a
Pollyanna? Your guy (yes -- *your* guy, no matter how much you
protest to the contrary) is a tool and an outright disaster to
the US and to the world. Admitting he has the glaring character
flaws that are obvious to just about everyone on the planet is
*not* the same as endorsing the liberals you so love to hate
because they want your taxes. Your autonomic defense of the man
makes you look downright stupid. Just as stupid, in fact, as a
liberal watching Clinton denying the Lewinsky blow-job and
concluding, "y'know -- Clinton is telling the truth."

Try being objective for once -- most of your brothers-in-arms on
this NG can call a spade a spade. Are you really this ignorant
about human nature? Is your emotional IQ so low that you can't
read body-language or facial expressions? Are you really such a
poor judge of one's ability to use speech and the written word
that you actually conclude it's plausible that Bush could be an
intellectual and is among the best and the brightest? Is your
distaste for parting with your tax dollars so strong that you
don't even bother applying the simplest "smell-test" to anything
about Bush?

Try to rebut this with something other than "An opinion you get
to have" or yet another tired reference to Clinton's litany of
transgressions.

GZ

Sandman wrote:

Seems he's allergic to healthy mind food.

I think this is the most astute observation to date about
Scott. It sums it all up in one concise sentance.

Glenn Zelniker wrote:


Michael McKelvy wrote:

"John Atkinson" wrote in message
om...

Glenn Zelniker wrote in message
...

Kerry's ties are via three or four degrees of separation from his WIFE,
but Bush's ties are via one degree of separation to HIM.)

Ah Glenn, surely you are not trying to make something of the fact that
W's daddy and Osamar bin Laden's daddy are not only friends but have
business connections.

There's nothing to make of it. Unless of course you're an idiot.

Open your ****ing eyes, Mike!!!! Are you really this much of a
Pollyanna? Your guy (yes -- *your* guy, no matter how much you
protest to the contrary) is a tool and an outright disaster to
the US and to the world. Admitting he has the glaring character
flaws that are obvious to just about everyone on the planet is
*not* the same as endorsing the liberals you so love to hate
because they want your taxes. Your autonomic defense of the man
makes you look downright stupid. Just as stupid, in fact, as a
liberal watching Clinton denying the Lewinsky blow-job and
concluding, "y'know -- Clinton is telling the truth."

Try being objective for once -- most of your brothers-in-arms on
this NG can call a spade a spade. Are you really this ignorant
about human nature? Is your emotional IQ so low that you can't
read body-language or facial expressions? Are you really such a
poor judge of one's ability to use speech and the written word
that you actually conclude it's plausible that Bush could be an
intellectual and is among the best and the brightest? Is your
distaste for parting with your tax dollars so strong that you
don't even bother applying the simplest "smell-test" to anything
about Bush?

Try to rebut this with something other than "An opinion you get
to have" or yet another tired reference to Clinton's litany of
transgressions.

GZ








It's just a matter of time before McKelvy calls you a "liar" or "boring" or as
you so aptly predicted, claims that all you have done is state "an opinion you
get to have".

Honesty and/or objectivity are not, apparently, part of his behavioral
repertoire.



Bruce J. Richman

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote:

It's
just a matter of time before
McKelvy
calls you a "liar"
or "boring" or as
you so aptly predicted, claims that all you have done is state
"an opinion you get to have".

Honesty

and/or
objectivity are not, apparently, part of his behavioral
repertoire.

Bruce J. Richman

LIAR!!!!!

GZ

Glenn Zelniker wrote:


"Bruce J. Richman" wrote:

It's
just a matter of time before
McKelvy
calls you a "liar"
or "boring" or as
you so aptly predicted, claims that all you have done is state
"an opinion you get to have".

Honesty

and/or
objectivity are not, apparently, part of his behavioral
repertoire.

Bruce J. Richman

LIAR!!!!!

GZ








LOL ! Q.E.D. from GMM



Bruce J. Richman

"Glenn Zelniker" wrote in message
...
Michael McKelvy wrote:

"John Atkinson" wrote in message
om...

Glenn Zelniker wrote in message
...

Kerry's ties are via three or four degrees of separation from his
WIFE,
but Bush's ties are via one degree of separation to HIM.)

Ah Glenn, surely you are not trying to make something of the fact that
W's daddy and Osamar bin Laden's daddy are not only friends but have
business connections.

There's nothing to make of it. Unless of course you're an idiot.

Open your ****ing eyes, Mike!!!! Are you really this much of a
Pollyanna? Your guy (yes -- *your* guy, no matter how much you
protest to the contrary) is a tool and an outright disaster to
the US and to the world. Admitting he has the glaring character
flaws that are obvious to just about everyone on the planet is
*not* the same as endorsing the liberals you so love to hate
because they want your taxes.

Your pitiful attempts at reading my mind are, as usual, bunk. He's not my
guy. Your automatic hatred of him because he's a Republican makes you look
just as stupid as you think I am. Saying the same things over and over
again doesn't make them true.

Your autonomic defense of the man
makes you look downright stupid. Just as stupid, in fact, as a
liberal watching Clinton denying the Lewinsky blow-job and
concluding, "y'know -- Clinton is telling the truth."

Then why did so many seem to believe him?

Try being objective for once -- most of your brothers-in-arms on
this NG can call a spade a spade. Are you really this ignorant
about human nature?

Which human nature would that be?

Is your emotional IQ so low that you can't
read body-language or facial expressions?

If it were possible to truly do that, how come Clinton came off so well?

Are you really such a
poor judge of one's ability to use speech and the written word
that you actually conclude it's plausible that Bush could be an
intellectual and is among the best and the brightest?
I'm not claiming he's an intellectual, just a decent man. More so than
Kerry by a long shot.


Is your
distaste for parting with your tax dollars so strong that you
don't even bother applying the simplest "smell-test" to anything
about Bush?

Try to rebut this with something other than "An opinion you get
to have" or yet another tired reference to Clinton's litany of
transgressions.

GZ

Try getting some actual proof.

"Michael McKelvy", speaking of Dubya, exclaimed:

He's not my guy.

Well, you definitely take the award for the best con job ever on RAO, Mikey.

So who IS your guy?

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
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ScottW said:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37244

Interesting article if true. Kerry might find his deep pockets
wife has some skeletons in her closet.

Actually, the whole article is a series of strained connections and
twisted
wording. Saying she supports "Islamists" sounds really close to
"terrorists,"
when all she did was donate to a charity that supports Muslims. It's
amazing
how much our language has been corrupted in the last two and a half years.


Some call it ketchup, others call it catsup.
I just call it Heinz.




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"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
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Sandman wrote:

Seems he's allergic to healthy mind food.

I think this is the most astute observation to date about
Scott. It sums it all up in one concise sentance.


Don't worry about it, Scott. Stick to the steak and shrimp.




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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
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It's just a matter of time before McKelvy calls you a "liar" or "boring"
or as
you so aptly predicted, claims that all you have done is state "an opinion
you
get to have".

Honesty and/or objectivity are not, apparently, part of his behavioral
repertoire.


I probably would be more offended if he called me boring.




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"Sandman" wrote in message

"Michael McKelvy", speaking of Dubya, exclaimed:

He's not my guy.

Well, you definitely take the award for the best con job ever on RAO,
Mikey.

So who IS your guy?

You ought to try girls sometime, Sanders. Just once!

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:33:56 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Sandman" wrote in message

"Michael McKelvy", speaking of Dubya, exclaimed:

He's not my guy.

Well, you definitely take the award for the best con job ever on RAO,
Mikey.

So who IS your guy?

You ought to try girls sometime, Sanders. Just once!

Arnold, shouldn't you wait until they turn 18? And what does your wife
say about this?

"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:33:56 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Sandman" wrote in message

"Michael McKelvy", speaking of Dubya, exclaimed:

He's not my guy.

Well, you definitely take the award for the best con job ever on RAO,
Mikey.

So who IS your guy?

You ought to try girls sometime, Sanders. Just once!

Arnold, shouldn't you wait until they turn 18? And what does your wife
say about this?

Doesn't Arnii realize by now that I'm blissfully "accounted for"? So how
many counts of statutory rape do you figure he's committed by now, Dave?

Arny said:

"Sandman" wrote in message

"Michael McKelvy", speaking of Dubya, exclaimed:

He's not my guy.

Well, you definitely take the award for the best con job ever on RAO,
Mikey.

So who IS your guy?

You ought to try girls sometime, Sanders. Just once!

That's a pretty dumb insult to use on an expectant father. But, then again,
you're a pretty dumb asshole.

Boon