On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 04:45:47 GMT, Ed Foster
wrote:

In article , FooFoo
wrote:

yorg wrote:

In article , says...

Liars. It's time to sue a few of them.

Trolls. It's time to sue a few of them.

Crossposting assholes.

Actually it's time to sue crossposting assholes. :-)

Ray Fischer wrote:
Stuart Grey wrote:

Ray Fischer wrote:

Stuart Grey wrote:


While slander and libel laws are more relaxed wrt public and political
figures, they do exist.

It is time that the Bush administration start suing some of these
absurd liars, like Franken, MoveOn, and Howard Dean.


Can't.

1) Bush is a public figure

That raises the bar, it doesn't not void the
slander and libel laws, as I explained.


Raises it too high to surmount.

Public figures sued before, and won.


2) They're not lies

You're a liar, or an ignorant fool, I'm not
sure which. Bush is no where near another
Hitler.


1) Now you have to show where Dean or Franken claimed that Bush
was like Hitler. Unless you're lying?

I said Franken is a liar. Franken
makes no bones about being a liar, but covers
his as by claiming his lies were "satire".
For example, Franken Lied when he said that
Bush had the worst environmental policy on record,
when all that Bush did was roll back some of the
last minute changes Clinton put in place so that
this very propaganda point could be made!

Dean was smear mongering when he brought up the
lie that Bush knew about 9-11 before hand and let
it happen to serve Bush's political purpose.

I never said that Franken or Dean compared
Bush to Hitler. They very well may have, but
I've not heard this. I said that Franken and
Dean are liars.

And, like most Democrats, you turned out to be
lying when you claim that I said that Dean and
Franken compared Bush to Hitler. I said that
MoveOn made the lie of comparing Bush to Hitler.
I said that the time has come for all these bold
faced slanderers and libelers be held accountable
for their lies.


2) Hitler didn't start of as a bloodthirsty despot. He got elected
by providing the German people what they wanted. In 1936 is was
no more despotic than, say, George W. Bush.

You're ignorance of the despotic policies of the early
National Socialist is amusing, but not an argument that
will sway intelligent people who know better.

Nor can you ever point out where Bush took part in an
attempted armed overthrow of the American government,
as Hitler did.

Now, are you really this damned ignorant of history, and
what a beast Hitler was, or are you just pretending to be
a total idiot to excuse your shameful lies?

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 22:13:49 GMT, Stuart Grey
wrote:


Dean was smear mongering when he brought up the
lie that Bush knew about 9-11 before hand and let
it happen to serve Bush's political purpose.

You just brough it up too.

So you are smear mongering.

If Dean should get sued for that, then so should you.

"Ray Fischer" wrote in message
...

In the last couple of years worker productivity in the US has
increased at an 2.7% annual rate (if I remember right), while
wages have increased at only about a 0.8% rate.

Somebody is collecting a lot of money, and it ain't me.

Still we need an immigrant worker program to keep
those labor rates low.

(sarcasm intended)

ScottW

In alt.flame Susan Hogarth wrote:

[..]

Ugh. Get married immediately.

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