A client of mine bought a couple of Dukane mic preamps, only there's no
documentation.....

They're "installed" in a rack-mount chassis, and the wiring is a rat's
nest.

I'd like to gut the aftermarket mods, and get these working as basic
preamps for him, so....

Does anyone have any info (schematics, pinouts, etc.) for a Dukane
1A450A preamp module that would make this job a little less painfull?

Jeff C.

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Jeff Chestek wrote:
A client of mine bought a couple of Dukane mic preamps, only there's no
documentation.....

They're "installed" in a rack-mount chassis, and the wiring is a rat's
nest.

I'd like to gut the aftermarket mods, and get these working as basic
preamps for him, so....

Does anyone have any info (schematics, pinouts, etc.) for a Dukane
1A450A preamp module that would make this job a little less painfull?

Call 1-800-DUKANE9 and ask for docs. However, there should be a Sams
Photofact on this one as well if you're willing to pay twenty bucks
to Sam's.
--scott

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"Jeff Chestek" wrote:

A client of mine bought a couple of Dukane mic preamps, only there's
no documentation.....

They're "installed" in a rack-mount chassis, and the wiring is a
rat's nest.

I'd like to gut the aftermarket mods, and get these working as basic
preamps for him, so....

Does anyone have any info (schematics, pinouts, etc.) for a Dukane
1A450A preamp module that would make this job a little less painfull?




Don't bother. They're cheesy commercial-grade product. Dukane made
(makes?) paging systems and the like. That's the quality of preamp
you're dealing with.

You'll get better results with less hassle by just tossing them and
using any old utility-grade preamp.

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- Lorin David Schultz
in the control room
making even bad news sound good

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In article DZdZe.274188$tt5.184321@edtnps90,
"Lorin David Schultz" wrote:

"Jeff Chestek" wrote:

A client of mine bought a couple of Dukane mic preamps, only there's
no documentation.....

They're "installed" in a rack-mount chassis, and the wiring is a
rat's nest.

I'd like to gut the aftermarket mods, and get these working as basic
preamps for him, so....

Does anyone have any info (schematics, pinouts, etc.) for a Dukane
1A450A preamp module that would make this job a little less painfull?




Don't bother. They're cheesy commercial-grade product. Dukane made
(makes?) paging systems and the like. That's the quality of preamp
you're dealing with.

You'll get better results with less hassle by just tossing them and
using any old utility-grade preamp.

Wellllll....

It's the client's preamp, and money....

And some people LIKE cheese... ;-)

Jeff C.

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Jeff Chestek wrote:

It's the client's preamp, and money....
And some people LIKE cheese... ;-)

If you have a conscience, before taking the client's money you'll take
the hint from Loren and explain what he'll end up with. If he's still
interested, then try to locate the documentation you'll need and take
his money.

If people didn't like cheeze, there wouldn't be so many cheezy mic
preamps. But if you'll be charging like a professional, he can probably
buy cheeze off the shelf cheaper, and can return it for a refund if
it's too cheezy or not cheezy enough. You probably won't offer him a
refund on your labor if he doesn't like what he ends up with.

But like you say, it's the customer's request, and the customer is
always right.

"Jeff Chestek"
wrote in message


A client of mine bought a couple of Dukane mic preamps,
only there's no documentation.....

They're "installed" in a rack-mount chassis, and the
wiring is a rat's nest.

I'd like to gut the aftermarket mods, and get these
working as basic preamps for him, so....

Does anyone have any info (schematics, pinouts, etc.) for
a Dukane 1A450A preamp module that would make this job a
little less painfull?

You understand that in the day of, most Dukane equipment
ended up in school gyms, etc., right?

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Jeff Chestek"
wrote in message


A client of mine bought a couple of Dukane mic preamps,
only there's no documentation.....

They're "installed" in a rack-mount chassis, and the
wiring is a rat's nest.

I'd like to gut the aftermarket mods, and get these
working as basic preamps for him, so....

Does anyone have any info (schematics, pinouts, etc.) for
a Dukane 1A450A preamp module that would make this job a
little less painfull?

You understand that in the day of, most Dukane equipment
ended up in school gyms, etc., right?

Dukane is still in business, they are still supporting their old gear,
and their equipment is still turning up in the latest school gyms
and multipurpose rooms.

Some of the older Dukane and Bogen tube gear isn't that bad, just because
it wasn't possible to make it any worse. I'm sure they'd have cut corners
more if they could have. But some of that stuff is simple enough that there
is nothing to sound bad other than the (crappy) transformers and coupling
caps. When solid state stuff came around, though, it started getting easier
to make things cheaper and worse.

Oh yes, and don't forget Newcomb either....
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Some of the older Dukane and Bogen tube gear isn't that bad


Hey, we had no idea what was in the gym, but when garage bands across
the nation were playing in battles of the bands, a Bogen was a sign you
meant business!! And getting a Shure Vocalmaster handed down to you
by a neighbor going into the army was a gift from heaven. They may
have been the sound of school innards, but there wasn't much else, or
better, for musicians either.

vdubreeze wrote:

Some of the older Dukane and Bogen tube gear isn't that bad


Hey, we had no idea what was in the gym, but when garage bands across
the nation were playing in battles of the bands, a Bogen was a sign you
meant business!! And getting a Shure Vocalmaster handed down to you
by a neighbor going into the army was a gift from heaven. They may
have been the sound of school innards, but there wasn't much else, or
better, for musicians either.

Willie Nelson made a whole lot of money with a Vocalmaster and a drummer
and himself. His rig now is a little different. g

--
ha

Scott Dorsey wrote:
wrote:

Hey, we had no idea what was in the gym, but when garage bands across
the nation were playing in battles of the bands, a Bogen was a sign you
meant business!! And getting a Shure Vocalmaster handed down to you
by a neighbor going into the army was a gift from heaven. They may
have been the sound of school innards, but there wasn't much else, or
better, for musicians either.

You shoulda checked the Altec and Langevin catalogues!
--scott



All I know is that in Bergen County, NJ garage bands never owned any
Langevin and rarely anything Altec, unless it was to upgrade the 15"
speakers in the Kustom tuck and roll. The occasional being faced with
a pair of Voice of the Theaters was a sign that we weren't in their
league. : )

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"Mike Rivers" wrote:

Jeff Chestek wrote:

It's the client's preamp, and money....
And some people LIKE cheese... ;-)

If you have a conscience, before taking the client's money you'll take
the hint from Loren and explain what he'll end up with. If he's still
interested, then try to locate the documentation you'll need and take
his money.

If people didn't like cheeze, there wouldn't be so many cheezy mic
preamps. But if you'll be charging like a professional, he can probably
buy cheeze off the shelf cheaper, and can return it for a refund if
it's too cheezy or not cheezy enough. You probably won't offer him a
refund on your labor if he doesn't like what he ends up with.

But like you say, it's the customer's request, and the customer is
always right.

I've made him aware of the pedigree of the Dukane moniker...He's only
got a few bucks invested in this thing so far so he may still be game to
get 'em working. At least they seem to be solidly built, with real plate
voltages (see current Behringer thread!)

Jeff C.

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