What are the nature of the audio discussions here? When opinions are
solicited, do responses come from personal experience or from theory?

Thanks.

Sam

"sam" wrote in message


What are the nature of the audio discussions here?

Mostly flames and personal attacks. Many written at the
third grade, or lower level. Many scatological references.
Continual bashing of most religions, political, and sexual
persuasions.

Some years ago some highly pathological individuals decided
to take this place over to elimiate opinions that they
disagreed with. It takes a lot of intense work to keep an
entire Usenet group this fouled-up, but they are willing to
make any sacrifice in an ongoing futile attempt to have
their way.

If you remember that old-old Star Trek episode about a
creature that spawned conflict and strife so that it could
feast on hatred and malice, you've got a pretty good idea
about what's been happening here for the last 5 or more
years.

When opinions are solicited, do responses come from
personal
experience or from theory?

Most responses here are full of personal animosity, bile and
crap.

There are other Usenet and HTML-baed audio groups. If you
are serious about audio, go there.

sam said:

What are the nature of the audio discussions here? When opinions are
solicited, do responses come from personal experience or from theory?

You sound like an android.

AutoLiarBorg is still looking for a professional pimp.

Mostly flames and personal attacks.

Google tells us (truthfully, I'm sure) that you, Arnii Krooborg, have accused
Normals of lying approximately 2500 times. And that's just on RAO -- I didn't
search any other groups.

2500 instances of people "lying", Arnii. It's a plague, and you're the only
victim. And the best you can come up with is "master of the debating trade". ;-)

"George Middius" wrote in
message

sam said:

What are the nature of the audio discussions here? When
opinions are solicited, do responses come from personal
experience or from theory?

You sound like an android.

Was my post a self-fulfilling prophecy or what?

;-)

In , George Middius wrote :



AutoLiarBorg is still looking for a professional pimp.

Mostly flames and personal attacks.

Google tells us (truthfully, I'm sure) that you, Arnii Krooborg, have
accused Normals of lying approximately 2500 times. And that's just on RAO
-- I didn't search any other groups.

2500 instances of people "lying", Arnii. It's a plague, and you're the
only victim. And the best you can come up with is "master of the debating
trade". ;-)

Demonstration ! :-D

"George Middius" wrote in
message

AutoLiarBorg is still looking for a professional pimp.

Mostly flames and personal attacks.

Google tells us (truthfully, I'm sure) that you, Arnii
Krooborg, have accused Normals of lying approximately 2500
times.

Given that I've been by no means 100% inclusive in pointing
out the lies of you and your clique, Middius you can take
that for a low number.

And that's just on RAO -- I didn't search any other
groups.

The good news is that other than a few habitual liars like
Harry Lavo, I don't find a lot of liars anyplace else but
RAO.

2500 instances of people "lying", Arnii.

Like I said, that statistic vastly understates your habitual
lying, Middisu.

It's a plague, and you're the only victim.

No, I'm just among the few long-term posters who bothers to
point out that you and yours are lying again, Middius.

And the best you can come up with is "master of the
debating trade". ;-)

When it comes to baiting you Middius, I'm obviously a
master. Opening the door for about sixty days of childish
posts about you-know-what by Middius and his clique

The Big **** does some "debating trade" shtick.

AutoLiarBorg is still looking for a professional pimp.

Google tells us (truthfully, I'm sure) that you, Arnii
Krooborg, have accused Normals of lying approximately 2500
times.

Given that I've been by no means 100% inclusive in pointing
out the lies of you and your clique, Middius you can take
that for a low number.

Good grief. It's even worse than you feared!

And that's just on RAO -- I didn't search any other
groups.

The good news is that other than a few habitual liars like
Harry Lavo, I don't find a lot of liars anyplace else but
RAO.

Oh sure, Arnii, we believe that. ;-)

It is a fact that you have two or three meltdowns every year on R.A.Tech, and
that's when you suddenly discover "liars" besieging you on every front.

2500 instances of people "lying", Arnii.

Like I said, that statistic vastly understates your habitual
lying, Middisu.

Whom are you speaking to, Turdy? There's no such person as "Middisu".

It's a plague, and you're the only victim.

No, I'm just among the few long-term posters who bothers to
point out that you and yours are lying again, Middius.

Lies, lies, lies... everywhere you look. So monotonous. What's a god-fearing,
churchgoing, compulsively honest hypocrite to do? Aside from harboring kiddie
porn for years on end, of course. ;-)

And the best you can come up with is "master of the
debating trade". ;-)

When it comes to baiting you Middius, I'm obviously a
master. Opening the door for about sixty days of childish
posts about you-know-what by Middius and his clique

Funny how you only claim to have "baited" somebody after you've been shown to be
wrong. Up until that moment, you're always totally sincere, doing your
egomaniacal "debating trade" dance.

I don't expect you to acknowledge any of your bad behavior or personality
faults. That's a lost cause. I'm really just talking about you because I'm bored
and I need some comic relief.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:13:01 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

It takes a lot of intense work to keep an
entire Usenet group this fouled-up,

And you should know.

To the OP, you'll certainly see a lot of animus on this newsgroup.
Hang around a while and you'll draw your own conclusions about which
side you will tend to gravitate toward. And you'll also draw your own
conclusions about how useful the dialog is.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:16:07 +0200, Lionel
wrote:

In , George Middius wrote :



AutoLiarBorg is still looking for a professional pimp.

Mostly flames and personal attacks.

Google tells us (truthfully, I'm sure) that you, Arnii Krooborg, have
accused Normals of lying approximately 2500 times. And that's just on RAO
-- I didn't search any other groups.

2500 instances of people "lying", Arnii. It's a plague, and you're the
only victim. And the best you can come up with is "master of the debating
trade". ;-)

Demonstration ! :-D

And ARNOLD'S first post wasn't?

"sam" wrote in message
...
What are the nature of the audio discussions here? When opinions are
solicited, do responses come from personal experience or from theory?

Thanks.

Sam


Hi Sam,

The response from Mr. Krueger is amazingly honest considering he's been *by
far* the most prolific poster to RAO in the last 7 or 8 years. Specifically,
Mr. Krueger has a combination of a foul mouth, dirty mind and an anger
management problem. Especially women and gays are targeted daily by Mr.
Krueger and his tiny ring of worshippers. I have been called a crossdresser,
transsexual, transvestite, bitch and **** by Mr. Krueger and his worshippers
for simply disagreeing with them. I have also received direct e-mail threats
from them and lately, attempts to hack my account have taken place. This is
actually not unexpected because Mr. Krueger's little militia -like militias
in general- seem to occupy the lowest levels of our society. Among them,
intolerance, ignorance and hatred are the only hope of better tomorrow.

Cheers,

Margaret

dave weil said:

2500 instances of people "lying", Arnii. It's a plague, and you're the
only victim. And the best you can come up with is "master of the debating
trade". ;-)

Demonstration ! :-D

And ARNOLD'S first post wasn't?

dave, didn't I release you from your dupehood? You have to stop agreeing with me
or else Arnii will draft you into my "clique". Ordinarily that would not be a
problem. At the present time, however, membership goals are completely
satisfied, so new applications are not being accepted. I think it best if the
un-cliqued Normals officially tell Arnii that their common ground is not so much
a clique as simply being human.

dave weil a écrit :
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:16:07 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


In , George Middius wrote :



AutoLiarBorg is still looking for a professional pimp.


Mostly flames and personal attacks.

Google tells us (truthfully, I'm sure) that you, Arnii Krooborg, have
accused Normals of lying approximately 2500 times. And that's just on RAO
-- I didn't search any other groups.

2500 instances of people "lying", Arnii. It's a plague, and you're the
only victim. And the best you can come up with is "master of the debating
trade". ;-)

Demonstration ! :-D


And ARNOLD'S first post wasn't?

IMHO Arnold post describes correctly RAO situation :

"Most responses here are full of personal animosity, bile
and crap."

An Arnold's final advice is IMHO the best someone can give.

"There are other Usenet and HTML-baed audio groups. If you
are serious about audio, go there."

Are you blind Dave ? just to speak about the participants of
this thread : Middius isn't interested in audio and you are
just interesting in spliting hairs boringly and indefinitely.

Ooops I forget your total involvement as the permanent
correspondent of the pop stars fan clubs. ;-)

La Salope has a bug up her painted ass.

Middius

You only complained about me once in the middle of an exchange with dave. Does
this mean you are finally relaxing your obsession with me, Slut?

George "Ol' Fag" Middius wrote :

La Salope has a bug up her painted ass.


Middius


You only complained about me once in the middle of an exchange with dave. Does
this mean you are finally relaxing your obsession with me, Slut?

It's a relaxing obsession. :-)

PS : I hope you didn't forget to add me to your Ebay
killfile also. :-D

Sluttie beats her dead fish.

PS : I hope you didn't forget to add me to your Ebay
killfile also. :-D

According to you, I don't have to because, again according to you, you are not
registered on ebay.

Are you having a episode of specialness?

Arny Krueger wrote:
"George Middius" wrote in
message

sam said:

What are the nature of the audio discussions here? When
opinions are solicited, do responses come from personal
experience or from theory?

You sound like an android.

Was my post a self-fulfilling prophecy or what?

;-)


Arny, check "Sam's" IP. Yep, it's a well known, psychotic RAO troll
with dozens of names. This whole thing is probably scripted between him
and "Middius" et al.

wrote in message
oups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
"George Middius" wrote in
message

sam said:

What are the nature of the audio discussions here?
When
opinions are solicited, do responses come from personal
experience or from theory?

You sound like an android.

Was my post a self-fulfilling prophecy or what?

;-)

Arny, check "Sam's" IP. Yep, it's a well known, psychotic
RAO
troll with dozens of names. This whole thing is probably
scripted between him and "Middius" et al.

Surf's rising again, eh? ;-)

Thing tries to gain Krooger's trust by inflaming the Beast's paranoa™.

Arny, check "Sam's" IP. Yep, it's a well known, psychotic RAO troll
with dozens of names.

Another conspiracy against you, Arnii! And you can thank torrie****s for, uh,
unmasking the perpetrators.

This whole thing is probably scripted between him
and "Middius" et al.

By "this whole thing", are you referring to Krooger's continuing escapades in
self-immolation, or something less entertaining?

George Middius a écrit :
Sluttie beats her dead fish.


PS : I hope you didn't forget to add me to your Ebay
killfile also. :-D


According to you, I don't have to because, again according to you, you are not
registered on ebay.

Anyway if it is as efficient as your RAO one... :-D

Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
"George Middius" wrote in
message

sam said:

What are the nature of the audio discussions here?
When
opinions are solicited, do responses come from personal
experience or from theory?

You sound like an android.

Was my post a self-fulfilling prophecy or what?

;-)

Arny, check "Sam's" IP. Yep, it's a well known, psychotic
RAO
troll with dozens of names. This whole thing is probably
scripted between him and "Middius" et al.

Surf's rising again, eh? ;-)


Must be a slow day at his wife's Real Estate firm. :-D

"George Middius" wrote in
message

The Big **** does some "debating trade" shtick.

AutoLiarBorg is still looking for a professional pimp.

Google tells us (truthfully, I'm sure) that you, Arnii
Krooborg, have accused Normals of lying approximately
2500
times.

Given that I've been by no means 100% inclusive in
pointing
out the lies of you and your clique, Middius you can take
that for a low number.

Good grief. It's even worse than you feared!

Except, I don't fear it Middius, I relish it. It makes your
lack of character oh, so apparent.

"George Middius" wrote in message
...


dave, didn't I release you from your dupehood? You have to stop agreeing
with me
or else Arnii will draft you into my "clique". Ordinarily that would not
be a
problem. At the present time, however, membership goals are completely
satisfied, so new applications are not being accepted. I think it best if
the
un-cliqued Normals officially tell Arnii that their common ground is not
so much
a clique as simply being human.



I can stop being your sycophant, but only if you tell me to!



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Yep, it's a well known, psychotic RAO troll
with dozens of names.

Irony?

.......This whole thing is probably scripted between him
and "Middius" et al.

The fact that you think that reveals a ton about you - doesn't it?

Must be a slow day at his wife's Real Estate firm. :-D

At 10PM????

Gosh - what did I make today - $9575.00 only.
Yep - a slow day!
What'd you make today, Richie??? LOL!!!!

sam said:

.......This whole thing is probably scripted between him
and "Middius" et al.

The fact that you think that reveals a ton about you - doesn't it?

Little **** has a habit of blaming me for everything.

What can you say about somebody who doesn't detest the Krooborg? ;-)

sam a écrit :

Gosh - what did I make today - $9575.00 only.
Yep - a slow day!

So much money !!!
Nothing better to do ? LOL !

"Lionel" wrote in message

sam a écrit :

Gosh - what did I make today - $9575.00 only.
Yep - a slow day!

So much money !!!
Nothing better to do ? LOL !

You might want to ask what the $9575 was. Just guessing, but
it was probably a commission on a real estate sale. That
means that the $9575 was gross income for a sales
organization, not an amount of money that a single
individual added to his taxable gross income for the year.

Arny Krueger a écrit :
"Lionel" wrote in message


sam a écrit :


Gosh - what did I make today - $9575.00 only.
Yep - a slow day!

So much money !!!
Nothing better to do ? LOL !


You might want to ask what the $9575 was. Just guessing, but
it was probably a commission on a real estate sale. That
means that the $9575 was gross income for a sales
organization, not an amount of money that a single
individual added to his taxable gross income for the year.

Anyway I have the deepest disdain for wealth demonstration.

Note that real estate salesmen are well known to be unshamed
liars. ;-)

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Lionel" wrote in message

sam a écrit :

Gosh - what did I make today - $9575.00 only.
Yep - a slow day!

So much money !!!
Nothing better to do ? LOL !

You might want to ask what the $9575 was. Just guessing, but
it was probably a commission on a real estate sale. That
means that the $9575 was gross income for a sales
organization, not an amount of money that a single
individual added to his taxable gross income for the year.



Arnie, you moron.
$9575 would be a 7% commission on a $127,667 house.
More likely it is his 25% selling or
buying agent's cut of a 7% commission on a $510,667 house.
You know that he doesn't work in the slums
of Detroit.



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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Lionel" wrote in message

sam a écrit :

Gosh - what did I make today - $9575.00 only.
Yep - a slow day!

So much money !!!
Nothing better to do ? LOL !

You might want to ask what the $9575 was. Just guessing,
but
it was probably a commission on a real estate sale. That
means that the $9575 was gross income for a sales
organization, not an amount of money that a single
individual added to his taxable gross income for the
year.

Arnie, you moron.
$9575 would be a 7% commission on a $127,667 house.
More likely it is his 25% selling or
buying agent's cut of a 7% commission on a $510,667 house.

Those are just derivatives of what I said, Art. Since you
claim that I am a moron, that makes you a person whose best
efforts are derivatives of statements from a moron.

You know that he doesn't work in the slums of Detroit.

Just goes to show what an idiot you are, Art. There's plenty
of $500,000 properties in the slums of Detroit, they are
just not typical single-family dwellings. I guess Art that
you are so stupid that I need to point out to you that real
estate encompasses a wide range of properties including
multiple dwellings, stores, factories, large parcels of
land, and other commercial properties.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Lionel" wrote in message

sam a écrit :

Gosh - what did I make today - $9575.00 only.
Yep - a slow day!

So much money !!!
Nothing better to do ? LOL !

You might want to ask what the $9575 was. Just guessing,
but
it was probably a commission on a real estate sale. That
means that the $9575 was gross income for a sales
organization, not an amount of money that a single
individual added to his taxable gross income for the
year.

Arnie, you moron.
$9575 would be a 7% commission on a $127,667 house.
More likely it is his 25% selling or
buying agent's cut of a 7% commission on a $510,667 house.

Those are just derivatives of what I said, Art. Since you
claim that I am a moron, that makes you a person whose best
efforts are derivatives of statements from a moron.

You know that he doesn't work in the slums of Detroit.

Just goes to show what an idiot you are, Art. There's plenty
of $500,000 properties in the slums of Detroit, they are
just not typical single-family dwellings. I guess Art that
you are so stupid that I need to point out to you that real
estate encompasses a wide range of properties including
multiple dwellings, stores, factories, large parcels of
land, and other commercial properties.



Thanks for admitting that Surf's commission was on a $500,000+ property!



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Arny Krueger a écrit :
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Lionel" wrote in message


sam a écrit :


Gosh - what did I make today - $9575.00 only.
Yep - a slow day!

So much money !!!
Nothing better to do ? LOL !

You might want to ask what the $9575 was. Just guessing,

but

it was probably a commission on a real estate sale. That
means that the $9575 was gross income for a sales
organization, not an amount of money that a single
individual added to his taxable gross income for the

year.


Arnie, you moron.
$9575 would be a 7% commission on a $127,667 house.
More likely it is his 25% selling or
buying agent's cut of a 7% commission on a $510,667 house.


Those are just derivatives of what I said, Art. Since you
claim that I am a moron, that makes you a person whose best
efforts are derivatives of statements from a moron.


You know that he doesn't work in the slums of Detroit.


Just goes to show what an idiot you are, Art. There's plenty
of $500,000 properties in the slums of Detroit, they are
just not typical single-family dwellings. I guess Art that
you are so stupid that I need to point out to you that real
estate encompasses a wide range of properties including
multiple dwellings, stores, factories, large parcels of
land, and other commercial properties.

You should remember that Sackman has a low brow and wear to
large blinders. :-)

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Lionel" wrote in message

sam a écrit :

Gosh - what did I make today - $9575.00 only.
Yep - a slow day!

So much money !!!
Nothing better to do ? LOL !

You might want to ask what the $9575 was. Just
guessing,
but
it was probably a commission on a real estate sale.
That
means that the $9575 was gross income for a sales
organization, not an amount of money that a single
individual added to his taxable gross income for the
year.

Arnie, you moron.
$9575 would be a 7% commission on a $127,667 house.
More likely it is his 25% selling or
buying agent's cut of a 7% commission on a $510,667
house.

Those are just derivatives of what I said, Art. Since
you
claim that I am a moron, that makes you a person whose
best
efforts are derivatives of statements from a moron.

You know that he doesn't work in the slums of Detroit.

Just goes to show what an idiot you are, Art. There's
plenty
of $500,000 properties in the slums of Detroit, they are
just not typical single-family dwellings. I guess Art
that
you are so stupid that I need to point out to you that
real
estate encompasses a wide range of properties including
multiple dwellings, stores, factories, large parcels of
land, and other commercial properties.

Thanks for admitting that Surf's commission was on a
$500,000+
property!

So what? It might have been a feedlot, given what he posts
here.

Clyde Slick a écrit :
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Lionel" wrote in message


sam a écrit :


Gosh - what did I make today - $9575.00 only.
Yep - a slow day!

So much money !!!
Nothing better to do ? LOL !

You might want to ask what the $9575 was. Just guessing,

but

it was probably a commission on a real estate sale. That
means that the $9575 was gross income for a sales
organization, not an amount of money that a single
individual added to his taxable gross income for the

year.


Arnie, you moron.
$9575 would be a 7% commission on a $127,667 house.
More likely it is his 25% selling or
buying agent's cut of a 7% commission on a $510,667 house.

Those are just derivatives of what I said, Art. Since you
claim that I am a moron, that makes you a person whose best
efforts are derivatives of statements from a moron.


You know that he doesn't work in the slums of Detroit.

Just goes to show what an idiot you are, Art. There's plenty
of $500,000 properties in the slums of Detroit, they are
just not typical single-family dwellings. I guess Art that
you are so stupid that I need to point out to you that real
estate encompasses a wide range of properties including
multiple dwellings, stores, factories, large parcels of
land, and other commercial properties.




Thanks for admitting that Surf's commission was on a $500,000+ property!

So what ?

"Lionel" wrote in message

Clyde Slick a écrit :

Thanks for admitting that Surf's commission was on a
$500,000+ property!

So what ?

Exactly. "So what" is a valid response to most of what
Sackman posts here. What he finds remarkble is to most
people, less than trivial.

La Pauvre Salope va mourir d'envie.

Anyway I have the deepest disdain for wealth demonstration.

Of course you do.

dédain

Slut apologizes for Krooger more ineptly than usual.

Note that real estate salesmen are well known to be unshamed
liars. ;-)

Would you please translate "liar" from the Sluttish dialect into human language?
TIA.

sneer

Mr. Shapwee writes:

Anyway I have the deepest disdain for wealth demonstration.

It's an appropriate response to an asshole like Malesweski when
he suggests I had a slow day because I made a post at 10pm.

Your disdain is misplaced. Malesweski has demonstrated much
more disdainful behavior.

Note that real estate salesmen are well known to be unshamed liars. ;-)

Some Realtors are unashamed liars. Your two best buddies on
RAO are unashamed liars. Your point? ;-)

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Lionel" wrote in message

sam a écrit :

Gosh - what did I make today - $9575.00 only.
Yep - a slow day!

So much money !!!
Nothing better to do ? LOL !

You might want to ask what the $9575 was. Just guessing, but
it was probably a commission on a real estate sale. That
means that the $9575 was gross income for a sales
organization, not an amount of money that a single
individual added to his taxable gross income for the year.


So your envy, bitterness and failing attempts to rationalize your own
personal failure extend far beyond the realm of audio. I've suspected that
all along. It is still helluva lot more than you and your 2 monkeys made
combined. Keep up the good work.

Cheers,

Margaret