"Lionel" wrote in message
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Michael McKelvy wrote:


"Lionel" wrote in message
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Is Dick Cheney French ?

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What's the question?

No more question, an answer : you are a môron !

When do I get my Dell Notebook?

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 00:30:34 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

No more question, an answer : you are a môron !
The title of the thread YOU started reads "Question to Sackman, McKelvy,
Scott the Moron.....
BUT THERE'S NO QUESTION ASKED, MORON.

Is "Is Dick Cheney French ?" not a question then?

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"Peter Thomas" wrote in message
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Is "Is Dick Cheney French ?" not a question then?

If he is of French background, "at least" his ancestors were smart enough to
leave.

Clyde Slick wrote:
"Lionel" wrote in message
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Michael McKelvy wrote:


"Lionel" wrote in message
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Is Dick Cheney French ?

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Washington, DC, Jul. 22 (UPI) -- A federal grand jury reportedly is
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business operations in Iran.
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What's the question?

No more question, an answer : you are a môron !


When do I get my Dell Notebook?

:-)
Considering your efficiency to propagate its fascist propaganda Dick
Cheney & Co should send you a truck of Dell Notebook.

Lionel wrote in message ...
Is Dick Cheney French ?

Was his name originally pronounced 'sheh-NAY'?

-- Spud http://www.rev.net/~aloe/couchpotato

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:42:53 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

Is "Is Dick Cheney French ?" not a question then?
If he is of French background, "at least" his ancestors were smart enough to
leave.

Did they leave before or after France saved the United States from
being defeated by the British armies?

--
pete [at] ¦ "I was so upset
horseshoe ¦ that I cried
[hyphen] ¦ all the way to
inn [dot] ¦ the chip-shop"
co [dot] uk¦ - Jilted John

Peter Thomas wrote:
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 08:54:19 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:

You can't rely on the French for ideology.

LOL, usually Middius is the declared enemy of the caricature and the
generalization...

We're not too keen on them either, but they're honest and upfront
about their quest for oil.

Seriously, don't speak about honesty to George he doesn't know what it is.
Days after days, years after years on RAO he does his best to manage
himself an inextricable intellectual niche, a kind of repugnant cobweb.
Note that he is *fundamentally* dishonest, more than once, he has
criticized wines that he has never drunk or food that he has never
tasted, music that he has never heard, books that he has never read...

Middius is a real "George".

"Lionel" wrote in message
...

Seriously, don't speak about honesty to George he doesn't know what it is.
Days after days, years after years on RAO he does his best to manage
himself an inextricable intellectual niche, a kind of repugnant cobweb.
Note that he is *fundamentally* dishonest, more than once, he has
criticized wines that he has never drunk or food that he has never tasted,
music that he has never heard, books that he has never read...


So what's wrong with that? You criticize a country
you have never been to and criticize a war you
have not fought in.

Like right now, I am criticizing a person I never met.
Big deal.

"Lionel" wrote in message
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Michael McKelvy wrote:

America funded and trained Osama Bin Laden. I know who to blame.


Please provide proof that we trained OBL.


I will make you an answer "à la" Cheney.
Please provide proof that USA doesn't trained him.
;-)



After you provide proof that you are potty trained.

"Roger McDodger" wrote in message
...
"Michael McKelvy" emitted :

You've obviously confused us with France. Frankly, it is no matter if
the
world hates us as long as we are safer and the terrorists keep dying.

That's a false pretense that some fervently patriotic Americans seem
to live under.

No, that's good sense. You get rid of people who want to kill you.

So, you wouldn't wish to take the moral high ground by imprisoning
them. Rather, you would lower yourself to their level, and engage in a
circular pattern of violence? Very clever.


Like the moral high ground we took in killing German and Japanese
soldiers in WWII. This is WAR, not a criminal enterprise.
At any rate, terrorists kiilling Americans is a Federal death penalty
offence.

Clyde Slick wrote:
"Lionel" wrote in message
...

Seriously, don't speak about honesty to George he doesn't know what it is.
Days after days, years after years on RAO he does his best to manage
himself an inextricable intellectual niche, a kind of repugnant cobweb.
Note that he is *fundamentally* dishonest, more than once, he has
criticized wines that he has never drunk or food that he has never tasted,
music that he has never heard, books that he has never read...



So what's wrong with that? You criticize a country
you have never been to and criticize a war you
have not fought in.

Like right now, I am criticizing a person I never met.
Big deal.

Re-read 7 times your above analogies... I am not sure that they have
been judiciously chosen. ;-)

Michael McKelvy wrote:

If it can be proved. It's still a tiny fraction of what France sold them.

Prove it.

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:14:16 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

You get rid of people who want to kill you.

So you will be voting Democrat in November!

--
pete [at] ¦ "I was so upset
horseshoe ¦ that I cried
[hyphen] ¦ all the way to
inn [dot] ¦ the chip-shop"
co [dot] uk¦ - Jilted John

Peter Thomas wrote:

You appear to be running away, just like the Bush administration do
with their responsibilties in Afghanistan. Run away!

This is the way this idiot has lived Vietnam : running away... :-)

(Lionel) said:

"overwhelming consensus". Ask S888Wheel, Atkinson, Sander deWall... if
they are ready to judge an audio system according to an alleged
"overwhelming consensus".

I can't speak for John or Scott, but in general, I base my audio
opinions on my past listening experiences, as well as on my technical
knowledge.

While it isn't entirely possible to extrapolate from a certain
topology or schematic how a particular component will sound, it sure
is possible to draw at least *some* conclusions .

I don't drink alcohol, so I can't comment on wine.

Pot, however............. :-)

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

Sander deWaal wrote:
(Lionel) said:


"overwhelming consensus". Ask S888Wheel, Atkinson, Sander deWall... if
they are ready to judge an audio system according to an alleged
"overwhelming consensus".


I can't speak for John or Scott, but in general, I base my audio
opinions on my past listening experiences, as well as on my technical
knowledge.

Wine is like audio you cannot comment if you haven't taste.

While it isn't entirely possible to extrapolate from a certain
topology or schematic how a particular component will sound, it sure
is possible to draw at least *some* conclusions .

Don't you was the one who told me that there's also a kind of
indefinable ratio of magic in it ?
So it's the same for the wine, only the pedantic snobbish morons speak
of wines they have never tested.

I don't drink alcohol, so I can't comment on wine.

Pot, however............. :-)

I have on the subject the same opinion than Charles Baudelaire in "Les
paradis artificiels".
This is like the wine you cannot know if you haven't extensively
experienced........ :-)

http://baudelaire.litteratura.com/?r...b=ess&id=8&s=1

Sorry, I cannot find an english version.

Lionel said:

I can't speak for John or Scott, but in general, I base my audio
opinions on my past listening experiences, as well as on my technical
knowledge.

Wine is like audio you cannot comment if you haven't taste.

That rules out 90 % of the opinions here :-)

While it isn't entirely possible to extrapolate from a certain
topology or schematic how a particular component will sound, it sure
is possible to draw at least *some* conclusions .

Don't you was the one who told me that there's also a kind of
indefinable ratio of magic in it ?

In designing, yes.
Listening can sometimes be an experience of transcedence, but that can
happen on less ideal systems as well.
In the end, the music has to reach your heart. When that happens, it
is good.
Usually, this involves tubes for me.

I don't drink alcohol, so I can't comment on wine.

Pot, however............. :-)

I have on the subject the same opinion than Charles Baudelaire in "Les
paradis artificiels".
This is like the wine you cannot know if you haven't extensively
experienced........ :-)

http://baudelaire.litteratura.com/?r...b=ess&id=8&s=1

Sorry, I cannot find an english version.

Like Baudelaire, I wasn't a heavy drug (ab) user as well.
I tried many different varieties of pot, however, so I'm at least able
to tell what is good and what is not :-)

Never touched the stronger stuff though, I've seen too many friends go
down the tubes with that.

These days, I'm just high on my wife and the music.
I cherish my few remaining brain cells .

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

Sander deWaal wrote:
Lionel said:


I can't speak for John or Scott, but in general, I base my audio
opinions on my past listening experiences, as well as on my technical
knowledge.


Wine is like audio you cannot comment if you haven't taste.


That rules out 90 % of the opinions here :-)

What a good thing !

While it isn't entirely possible to extrapolate from a certain
topology or schematic how a particular component will sound, it sure
is possible to draw at least *some* conclusions .


Don't you was the one who told me that there's also a kind of
indefinable ratio of magic in it ?


In designing, yes.
Listening can sometimes be an experience of transcedence, but that can
happen on less ideal systems as well.
In the end, the music has to reach your heart. When that happens, it
is good.
Usually, this involves tubes for me.

Tasting a good wine need the same concentration, the same mobilisation
of the all the sens.


I don't drink alcohol, so I can't comment on wine.



Pot, however............. :-)


I have on the subject the same opinion than Charles Baudelaire in "Les
paradis artificiels".
This is like the wine you cannot know if you haven't extensively
experienced........ :-)


http://baudelaire.litteratura.com/?r...b=ess&id=8&s=1


Sorry, I cannot find an english version.


Like Baudelaire, I wasn't a heavy drug (ab) user as well.
I tried many different varieties of pot, however, so I'm at least able
to tell what is good and what is not :-)

Such psycho-actives substances (pot, wine,...) are for fun *only*. When
I was young we thought they was a "way of life"... It was a big, big
mistake.

Never touched the stronger stuff though, I've seen too many friends go
down the tubes with that.

These days, I'm just high on my wife and the music.
I cherish my few remaining brain cells .

She's back home ?

Lionel said:

These days, I'm just high on my wife and the music.
I cherish my few remaining brain cells .

She's back home ?

Yep, about 2 weeks already.
She's doing well, considering the circumstances.

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

Sander deWaal wrote:
Lionel said:


These days, I'm just high on my wife and the music.
I cherish my few remaining brain cells .


She's back home ?


Yep, about 2 weeks already.
She's doing well, considering the circumstances.

Great ! Piano and Champagne !

Lionel said:

Yep, about 2 weeks already.
She's doing well, considering the circumstances.

Great ! Piano and Champagne !

No, fortissimo and cappuccino, actually :-)

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

"Lionel" wrote in message
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This is the way this idiot has lived Vietnam : running away... :-)


Good one Frenchie!

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:45:17 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

This is the way this idiot has lived Vietnam : running away... :-)
Good one Frenchie!

Frenchie, as in France, the nation that saved your country from being
defeated by the British army? You'd still be a colony belonging to us
yellow-toothed limies if it weren't for the French.

You do realise the Statue Of Liberty is, well... fabrique en France!


--
pete [at] ¦ "I was so upset
horseshoe ¦ that I cried
[hyphen] ¦ all the way to
inn [dot] ¦ the chip-shop"
co [dot] uk¦ - Jilted John

"Peter Thomas" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:45:17 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

This is the way this idiot has lived Vietnam : running away... :-)
Good one Frenchie!

Frenchie, as in France, the nation that saved your country from being
defeated by the British army? You'd still be a colony belonging to us
yellow-toothed limies if it weren't for the French.

You do realise the Statue Of Liberty is, well... fabrique en France!


Ah yes, their glory days of several centuries ago, when they were a nation
of honor.

Clyde Slick wrote:
"Peter Thomas" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:45:17 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:


This is the way this idiot has lived Vietnam : running away... :-)

Good one Frenchie!

Frenchie, as in France, the nation that saved your country from being
defeated by the British army? You'd still be a colony belonging to us
yellow-toothed limies if it weren't for the French.

You do realise the Statue Of Liberty is, well... fabrique en France!



Ah yes, their glory days of several centuries ago, when they were a nation
of honor.

Sackman made a confusion between Noriega and Allende. To give you an
idea of his historic knowledge...

Clyde Slick wrote:
"Peter Thomas" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:45:17 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:


This is the way this idiot has lived Vietnam : running away... :-)

Good one Frenchie!

Frenchie, as in France, the nation that saved your country from being
defeated by the British army? You'd still be a colony belonging to us
yellow-toothed limies if it weren't for the French.

You do realise the Statue Of Liberty is, well... fabrique en France!



Ah yes, their glory days of several centuries ago, when they were a nation
of honor.

LOL, an other demonstration of Sackamn perfect mastery of history.
At this time France was one of the most hard colonialist, 12 years old
children were working in the coal mines, Bonaparte was just finishing to
murder our European neighbours...
But according to Sackman it was a nation of honor...

Ask Portugese, Spanish... they will find for you a place in their local
Muppet Show.

Roger McDodger wrote:
"Clyde Slick" emitted :


This is the way this idiot has lived Vietnam : running away... :-)

Good one Frenchie!

Frenchie, as in France, the nation that saved your country from being
defeated by the British army? You'd still be a colony belonging to us
yellow-toothed limies if it weren't for the French.

You do realise the Statue Of Liberty is, well... fabrique en France!

Ah yes, their glory days of several centuries ago, when they were a nation
of honor.


Is it the people of France you have a problem with or their
government?

For Sackman it is not an interesting question.
ALL *GUILTY* like the Abu Ghraib prisonners. :-(

NB : it is not a joke, he has really written that on RAO...

"Roger McDodger" wrote in message
...
"Clyde Slick" emitted :

This is the way this idiot has lived Vietnam : running away... :-)
Good one Frenchie!

Frenchie, as in France, the nation that saved your country from being
defeated by the British army? You'd still be a colony belonging to us
yellow-toothed limies if it weren't for the French.

You do realise the Statue Of Liberty is, well... fabrique en France!

Ah yes, their glory days of several centuries ago, when they were a nation
of honor.

Is it the people of France you have a problem with or their
government?


A whole lot of problems with one person in particular,
a good amount of problems with the government,
and a fair amount of problems with some facets
of the behavior exhibited by the population, in general.

Clyde Slick wrote:
"Roger McDodger" wrote in message
...

"Clyde Slick" emitted :


This is the way this idiot has lived Vietnam : running away... :-)

Good one Frenchie!

Frenchie, as in France, the nation that saved your country from being
defeated by the British army? You'd still be a colony belonging to us
yellow-toothed limies if it weren't for the French.

You do realise the Statue Of Liberty is, well... fabrique en France!

Ah yes, their glory days of several centuries ago, when they were a nation
of honor.

Is it the people of France you have a problem with or their
government?



A whole lot of problems with one person in particular,
a good amount of problems with the government,
and a fair amount of problems with some facets
of the behavior exhibited by the population, in general.

Key-word : *general*.
General = Yellow star.

"Peter Thomas" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 23:14:16 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

You get rid of people who want to kill you.

So you will be voting Democrat in November!


Why would I vote for people who want to kill me?



--
pete [at] ¦ "I was so upset
horseshoe ¦ that I cried
[hyphen] ¦ all the way to
inn [dot] ¦ the chip-shop"
co [dot] uk¦ - Jilted John

Lionel wrote in message ...

LOL, an other demonstration of Sackamn perfect mastery of history.
At this time France was one of the most hard colonialist, 12 years old
children were working in the coal mines, Bonaparte was just finishing to
murder our European neighbours...
But according to Sackman it was a nation of honor...


Compared to the present... it may have been.

Ask Portugese, Spanish... they will find for you a place in their local
Muppet Show.


Ok, we shall have to concede that France was at no time in it's
history... honorable.

Happy now?


ScottW

ScottW wrote:
Lionel wrote in message ...

LOL, an other demonstration of Sackamn perfect mastery of history.
At this time France was one of the most hard colonialist, 12 years old
children were working in the coal mines, Bonaparte was just finishing to
murder our European neighbours...
But according to Sackman it was a nation of honor...



Compared to the present... it may have been.

Ask Portugese, Spanish... they will find for you a place in their local
Muppet Show.



Ok, we shall have to concede that France was at no time in it's
history... honorable.

Happy now?

Coming from you ? *YES* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




ScottW

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:09:59 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

Only if you mean we want someone using the profits for something
other than terrorism.
But America has used its profits to fund the IRA through Noraid.
That's terrorism. US-funded terrorism.
NORAID is a private organization and purports to oppose terrorsim,

It opposed terrorism, in a way. It opposed terrorism from
loyalist/pro-Ulster groups from Northern Ireland, by, er, funding
terrorist republican groups.

private
donations from private citizens are impossible to prevent. Do you have any
evidence that the US government provides them with funding?

I used past tense. Here's the proof...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

Google is your friend. Except when it gives lots of links that prove
your silly pro-US-government rantings to be factually incorrect.

--
pete [at] ¦ "I was so upset
horseshoe ¦ that I cried
[hyphen] ¦ all the way to
inn [dot] ¦ the chip-shop"
co [dot] uk¦ - Jilted John

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:58:41 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

You get rid of people who want to kill you.
So you will be voting Democrat in November!
Why would I vote for people who want to kill me?

How could the Democrats kill you, exactly?

--
pete [at] ¦ "I was so upset
horseshoe ¦ that I cried
[hyphen] ¦ all the way to
inn [dot] ¦ the chip-shop"
co [dot] uk¦ - Jilted John

On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 22:17:40 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

This is the way this idiot has lived Vietnam : running away... :-)
Good one Frenchie!
Frenchie, as in France, the nation that saved your country from being
defeated by the British army? You'd still be a colony belonging to us
yellow-toothed limies if it weren't for the French.
You do realise the Statue Of Liberty is, well... fabrique en France!
Ah yes, their glory days of several centuries ago, when they were a nation
of honor.

Yeah, and you've still to catch up.

--
pete [at] ¦ "I was so upset
horseshoe ¦ that I cried
[hyphen] ¦ all the way to
inn [dot] ¦ the chip-shop"
co [dot] uk¦ - Jilted John

On 8 Oct 2004 11:04:51 -0700, (ScottW) wrote:

Ask Portugese, Spanish... they will find for you a place in their local
Muppet Show.
Ok, we shall have to concede that France was at no time in it's
history... honorable.
Happy now?

So, when France aided the colonists of what is now USA, against the
British armies, France was not at all being honourable.

Thanks for confirming that.

--
pete [at] ¦ "I was so upset
horseshoe ¦ that I cried
[hyphen] ¦ all the way to
inn [dot] ¦ the chip-shop"
co [dot] uk¦ - Jilted John

"Peter Thomas" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 17:58:41 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

You get rid of people who want to kill you.
So you will be voting Democrat in November!
Why would I vote for people who want to kill me?

How could the Democrats kill you, exactly?

--
Incrementally.

"Peter Thomas" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 22:17:40 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:

This is the way this idiot has lived Vietnam : running away... :-)
Good one Frenchie!
Frenchie, as in France, the nation that saved your country from being
defeated by the British army? You'd still be a colony belonging to us
yellow-toothed limies if it weren't for the French.
You do realise the Statue Of Liberty is, well... fabrique en France!
Ah yes, their glory days of several centuries ago, when they were a nation
of honor.

Yeah, and you've still to catch up.

You misunderstand, we're not behind, we're lapping them.

"Peter Thomas" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:09:59 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

Only if you mean we want someone using the profits for something
other than terrorism.
But America has used its profits to fund the IRA through Noraid.
That's terrorism. US-funded terrorism.
NORAID is a private organization and purports to oppose terrorsim,

It opposed terrorism, in a way. It opposed terrorism from
loyalist/pro-Ulster groups from Northern Ireland, by, er, funding
terrorist republican groups.

private
donations from private citizens are impossible to prevent. Do you have
any
evidence that the US government provides them with funding?

I used past tense. Here's the proof...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

Google is your friend. Except when it gives lots of links that prove
your silly pro-US-government rantings to be factually incorrect.

Google is my friend when it helps me find truth, I've never cared much about
whom the truth hurts. So far as I've been able to tell, the truth is not
something you seem to cherish much.

I'm a citizen of the U.S. and my "silly pro-U.S. government rantings" as you
put it are based on the actual facts. You will not find me defending
injustice.

I've got plenty of qualms about actions my government has taken, but I'm not
about to equate the U.S. Government with Terrorist regimes like Saddam's, or
to claim it is patently unjust, as you seem to believe.

"Peter Thomas" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 18:09:59 GMT, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

Only if you mean we want someone using the profits for something
other than terrorism.
But America has used its profits to fund the IRA through Noraid.
That's terrorism. US-funded terrorism.
NORAID is a private organization and purports to oppose terrorsim,

It opposed terrorism, in a way. It opposed terrorism from
loyalist/pro-Ulster groups from Northern Ireland, by, er, funding
terrorist republican groups.

private
donations from private citizens are impossible to prevent. Do you have
any
evidence that the US government provides them with funding?

I used past tense. Here's the proof...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search



BTW, I have never understood why anybody from this country would want to
fund the IRA in any way.

It seems that Bush has had the good sense to agree that they should not be
allowed to get funding from us, so what's the beef?

Try explaining it without the usual histrionics. If you check recent posts
made by me, you will find that I'm not a member of the Republican or
Democrat party, I have much more respect for our Constitution than either of
them.