I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room). Tower
speakers and about 100-150 watts per channel. Good multi disc CD
player. I don't care if the system is modular or not. I want it to
last a long time.

On 17 Aug 2004 19:24:46 -0700, (Doug)
wrote:

I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room). Tower
speakers and about 100-150 watts per channel. Good multi disc CD
player. I don't care if the system is modular or not. I want it to
last a long time.

A 40 X 26 room is a huge room to fill with sound. Just wanted to let
you know that. I know that some will scoff, but you might benefit from
something like some large Klipsch speakers like the Cornwalls that I
used to have. They are efficient, so you'll get a lot of bang from
your wattage. You can usually get nice examples of them from eBay from
between $500 - 1000, although you can plan on at least $200 shipping
costs.

Just out of curiosity, in a room that size, why don't you have room
for Maggies? I would think that it wouldn't be a problem at all. I
like Maggies, but I have to wonder if they'd work in that size room.
I'd think that they'd probably need a subwoofer (which wouldn't be
such a bad idea anyway).

Also, I wouldn't write off surround sound because you might get a
better large room response with a second smaller pair of speakers to
sort of "fill in" the sound.

You might want to tell us the height of your ceiling as that's part of
the equation as well. Certain height/width/depth ratios work better
than others. You're dealing with a three dimensional space, you know.

"Doug" wrote in message
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I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room).

How does one have no room in a 40 x 26 room?

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 8/17/2004 8:03 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"Doug" wrote in message
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I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room).

How does one have no room in a 40 x 26 room?


Furniture.

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 8/17/2004 8:03 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"Doug" wrote in message
om
I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room).

How does one have no room in a 40 x 26 room?

Furniture.

More than a little bit of furniture, no?

The OPs priorities are thus clear - it's more important to have a large room
over-stuffed with furniture than to have good sound.

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:16:34 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 8/17/2004 8:03 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"Doug" wrote in message
om
I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room).

How does one have no room in a 40 x 26 room?

Furniture.

More than a little bit of furniture, no?

The OPs priorities are thus clear - it's more important to have a large room
over-stuffed with furniture than to have good sound.

Actually, it could be something like a pool table that's causing the
"stuffing". That takes up a lot of valuable real estate. That's not
something that you can put against a wall after all.

"Arny Krueger" said:

The OPs priorities are thus clear - it's more important to have a large room
over-stuffed with furniture than to have good sound.

The challenge being creating as good sound as possible in the existing
environment.
These are the real-world scenarios most of the time.

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 8/18/2004 7:16 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 8/17/2004 8:03 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"Doug" wrote in message
om
I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room).

How does one have no room in a 40 x 26 room?

Furniture.

More than a little bit of furniture, no?

Depends on the room. If it is a great room, a common feature in many homes, it
will have the livingroom furniture and the diningroom furniture at least. IME
furniture is a problem in most rooms that are not dedicated listening rooms.


The OPs priorities are thus clear - it's more important to have a large room
over-stuffed with furniture than to have good sound.

Unfortunately for many audiophiles the needs of others living in the same house
have to be considered. One does not have to "overstuff" a room with furniture
for it to be a problem.

I'm probably going to ask some not-so-informed questions.
1. I use the CD to learn songs (I'm a guitar musician), so I need to
output to some devices, this is an extra output from the amp to, well
it could be a number of things, a Sabine "riff slow down machine", or
could be one of my guitar amps that have a CD input. I don't know,
maybe the output needs to come from the CD player. Maybe I need both.
3. I need balance right and left as some of my CD's REQUIRE it. Amps
still have these right?
4. I also need inputs. So if I want to connect my Zoom recorder thing
(we used to call these tape recorders, but mine is digital), and play
it through the home stereo, (it has an output like a CD player), I
can.
5. Do all amps have a subwoofer output? I don't understand how
subwoofers connect. Subwoofers have their own amps right? Do they
connect to the amp or to the CD unit?
6. Is it possible to connect a microphone or mic pre amp to a home
stereo?
7. I have lots of other musical stuff. Drum machine, keyboard,
acoustic electric (I have a solid state amp for it, but....)
8. Anyway, I need LOTS of inputs and outputs.
9. Is it possible to build my system with Pro Audio gear. Like get an
amp, a mixer and such, but use Klips and such for speakers? I know
it's possible, but would it be practical?

Honestly, is there a book or something on how all this stuff works.
(mostly the connections). I went to three hifi stores and there was SO
much stuff. Then the pro audio. I'm floundering.

(Doug)
Date: 8/17/2004 7:24 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room). Tower
speakers and about 100-150 watts per channel. Good multi disc CD
player. I don't care if the system is modular or not. I want it to
last a long time.







Vandersteen SCe speakers
http://www.vandersteen.com/pages/The...Signature.html

Vandersteen 2W subwoofer
http://www.vandersteen.com/pages/Pdffiles/2wlit.pdf

VTL integrated amp
http://www.vtl.com/pages/buying_guide.html\

This may go a bit beyond your budget but not that much. It will sound great.

Doug wrote:

I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room). Tower
speakers and about 100-150 watts per channel. Good multi disc CD
player. I don't care if the system is modular or not. I want it to
last a long time.

Please provide a real name and email address for a proper
response.

"Doug" wrote in message
om...
I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room). Tower
speakers and about 100-150 watts per channel. Good multi disc CD
player. I don't care if the system is modular or not. I want it to
last a long time.

Sony CD player, whatever model has the features you desire. I don't know of
any well known brand of CD player that sounds different from any other so
there's no real need to agonize over this device.

Adire Sadhara Subwoofer available through www.adireaudio.com.
This sub $795.00 thru the end of August and is normally $995.00. You may
wish something more conventional looking in a sub but Adire, Hsu, and SVC I
believe are the true leaders in this area.

I tend to prefer stand mounted speakers but a good tower system would be the
PSB Stratus Silver. Anything from B&W is worth a listen. NHT is also worth
a listen.

Do remember it is the speakers that you actually hear so pick them out first
and then decide what to drive them with.


If you are set on a receiver I'd go with something from Yamaha, but ideally
I'd go for an integrated amp and tuner or pre/tuner and power amp. My amp
of choice would be QSC great sound, great bang for the buck

Since you're not interested in home theatre I think the above suggestions
will get you the most for your money, especially since most receivers these
days seem to come with home theatre features. You can still get one of them
and simply not use the other channels and if you change your mind you'd be
ahead of the game.

For the money you are looking to spend there is every reason to expect you
will have a very fine sounding system.

Good luck.

"Doug" wrote in message
om...
I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room). Tower
speakers and about 100-150 watts per channel. Good multi disc CD
player. I don't care if the system is modular or not. I want it to
last a long time.

I'll be happy to discuss the matter with you, but only by e-mail, and
certainly not in this newsgroup.

Norm Strong

normanstrong wrote:

"Doug" wrote in message
om...

I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room). Tower
speakers and about 100-150 watts per channel. Good multi disc CD
player. I don't care if the system is modular or not. I want it to
last a long time.


I'll be happy to discuss the matter with you, but only by e-mail, and
certainly not in this newsgroup.

That was my point, too - send me an email and talk elsewhere
as it takes literally HOURS for a flamewar to start in here.

Joseph Oberlander said:

That was my point, too - send me an email and talk elsewhere
as it takes literally HOURS for a flamewar to start in here.

THAT long? I've seen it happen in 43 seconds* :-)


*really!

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

Sander deWaal wrote:

Joseph Oberlander said:


That was my point, too - send me an email and talk elsewhere
as it takes literally HOURS for a flamewar to start in here.


THAT long? I've seen it happen in 43 seconds* :-)

The recrod I've seen is about two hours from a legitimate
newcomer's post to Middius and Kreuger and the rest...

That kind of response - they must LIVE next to their computer.
Do a lookup of posts and times for both of them - it's
amazing the HOURS a day they spend online just typing up
crap. And not one tiny thing is let by - they HAVE an
almost pathologial response mechanism. Poke - flame.
Poke - flame. Poke Poke Poke Flame Flame Flame. Every
ten minutes all day long.

Joseph Oberlander said:

That kind of response - they must LIVE next to their computer.

Well, ever since I have a laptop next to my workbench.......
I must confess to spend too much time on the Internet .
Oh well, The She [tm] is still in the hospital right now, so don't
tell her :-)

--
Sander deWaal
"SOA of a KT88? Sufficient."

In article ,
says...


I have $5000 to spend on a CD player, amp and tower speakers,
subwoofer and reciever. I don't need anything too exotic, but I want
good. I play it in my 40x 26 room which doubles as my music room.
Anyone have any just solid recommendations. Like the Toyota Lexus of
sound systems. Not surround sound. Not magneplanars (no room). Tower
speakers and about 100-150 watts per channel. Good multi disc CD
player. I don't care if the system is modular or not. I want it to
last a long time.

I suggest you listen to speakers first. Then once you have found the
speaker that sound best to you, decide on the rest of the components.
Speakers are the most important part of a sound system. Also, if you get
full range speakers, you can pass on the sub-woofer.
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Alex