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On Jun 28, 9:41*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote: On Jun 28, 8:39*pm, Clyde Slick wrote: On Jun 28, 2:55*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote: On Jun 28, 1:47*pm, Clyde Slick wrote: On Jun 28, 1:03*am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote: On Jun 27, 10:59*pm, Clyde Slick wrote: On Jun 27, 4:21*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote: On Jun 27, 12:39*pm, Clyde Slick wrote: On Jun 27, 8:24*am, MiNe 109 * wrote: In article , *"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote: when the dust settles, this generation or the next, and Iranian people can govern themselves, they will rememeber who stood up for them and who didn't. So you advocate the US denouncing the Ayatollah and the one he has apparently chosen as President. I disagree unless we are willing to back that up with more than words. Is that what you're in favor of? Otherwise it's pretty meaningless. Clyde is in favor of standing up for the oppressed the way we did for Hungary in 1956 and the Shia in Iraq after Gulf War I. I will have to go abck and look at our President's satements to see if they are as mealy mouthed as Obama's The U.S. President, Dwight Eisenhower, was aware of a detailed study of Hungarian resistance which recommended against U.S. military intervention,[110] and of earlier policy discussions within the National Security Council which focused upon encouraging discontent in Soviet satellite nations only by economic policies and political rhetoric.[111][112] In a 1998 interview, Hungarian Ambassador Géza Jeszenszky was critical of Western inaction in 1956, citing the influence of the United Nations at that time and giving the example of UN intervention in Korea from 1950–53.[113] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungari...56#Internation... Statement by Dwight D. Eisenhower (25 October 1956) The United States considers the development in Hungary as being a renewed expression of the intense desire for freedom long held by the Hungarian people. The demands reportedly made by the students and the working people clearly fall within the framework of those human rights to which all are entitled, which are affirmed in the charter of the United Nations, and which are specifically guaranteed to the Hungarian people by the treaty of peace to which the Governments of Hungary and of the Allied and Associated Powers, including the Soviet Union and the United States, are parties. The United States deplores the intervention of Soviet military forces which, under the treaty of peace, should have been withdrawn and the presence of which in Hungary, as is now demonstrated, is not to protect Hungary against armed aggression from without but rather to continue an occupation of Hungary by the forces of an alien government for its own purposes. The heart of America goes out to the people of Hungary. http://www.ena.lu/statement_dwight_e...prising_25_ o... We "deplored" the military intervention. Our "heart [went] out to the people of Hungary". And 35 years later they loved us in Hungary for making such a strong statement, once the Soviet Union fell apart. LoL.. Jesus. What a stupid thing to whine about. A lot better than Obama! And about as effective! Unless we went in militarily it's all just words, just as it was then! (Or, in Eisenhower's day, it was just "political rhetoric"!) It's not a very big ****ing deal no matter how hard you try to make it one! There's nothing anybody could do unless they went in with guns and stuff! The best words are still just words! so, it does not matter hat he says, LOL!!!! he can just crawl into alittle mhidey-hole and say nothing. Of course it matters! No, Clyde, it's like this: if Obama walks softly the right lambasts him for not having any balls. If he comes out swinging the right moans about "Oh, so this is how he intends to woo the Iranians". Meanwhile, there is still a repressive regime in power in Iran that would be there no matter what Obama said. So we can conclude: 1. No matter what Obama did the right-wingnuts would weep, wail and gnash their teeth, and 2. The repressive regime would still be in power in Iran. LOL!!!!! So it really doesn't matter! Let's email Obama and ask him to tell the iranians that our hearts go out to them! That'll show that mean Ayatollah!!!!!! It sure does matter. He was too scared to even say anything till his hand was forced at the end. Know they know for sure he has no balls. And so does the rest of the world What is it your buddy says? Ah, yes: "delusions of omniscience noted". BTW, Clyde, confusing "brains" and "balls" can get you in trouble. LoL. When one is the leader of one of the two most powerful entities in this world, one needs both. Brains would tell him that what he says, does matter. Maybe Obama ios one of those guys who is smart, yet says some stupid things, you know what I mean? |
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