In an earlier post I asked about cleaning CDs.

Someone named Robert Morein said, "I use soap, water, and a Bounty towel,
wiping from center to edge."

What kind of soap is supposed to be used and in what method? Do you mean
dish soap, like Dawn?

I'm guessing dish soap, with a few drops in a spray bottle of water. Then
spray with distilled water to rinse so there is no residue?

Or are people dunking their CDs in a sink full of water with Dawn, then
dunking them into another sink with rinse water, just like doing dishes?

I also cringe at the idea of paper towels - just from having glasses and
being told never to wipe optical surfaces with any paper products - only
soft cloth. I thought paper towels contained tiny sharp fibres which would
scratch.

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:00:32 -0700, "someguy"
wrote:

In an earlier post I asked about cleaning CDs.

Someone named Robert Morein said, "I use soap, water, and a Bounty towel,
wiping from center to edge."

What kind of soap is supposed to be used and in what method? Do you mean
dish soap, like Dawn?

I'm guessing dish soap, with a few drops in a spray bottle of water. Then
spray with distilled water to rinse so there is no residue?

Or are people dunking their CDs in a sink full of water with Dawn, then
dunking them into another sink with rinse water, just like doing dishes?

I also cringe at the idea of paper towels - just from having glasses and
being told never to wipe optical surfaces with any paper products - only
soft cloth. I thought paper towels contained tiny sharp fibres which would
scratch.


We have pretty good tap water in our area, so I'm content to rinse CDs
with that. I don't fill up half of the sink with rinse water, though,
because that would get contaminated pretty quickly with soap. I run
them under the tap to rinse them.

As for paper towels, I'd never use them on glasses, but some paper
towels are much softer than others, and how often to I need to clean
CDs anyway?

Scott Gardner

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:00:32 -0700, someguy wrote:
In an earlier post I asked about cleaning CDs.

Someone named Robert Morein said, "I use soap, water, and a Bounty towel,
wiping from center to edge."

What kind of soap is supposed to be used and in what method? Do you mean
dish soap, like Dawn?

it doesn't matter.

Do you know how to wash your hands? If you do, then you should be able
to figure out how to apply soap to a CD.

Do you truly need more detailed instructions?
Do you need some kind of instructional video?

The Dorky ****head squalled:

Do you know how to wash your hands? If you do, then you should be able
to figure out how to apply soap to a CD.

Do you truly need more detailed instructions?
Do you need some kind of instructional video?

Look who got out of jail again.......

Do you know how to wash your hands? If you do, then you should be able
to figure out how to apply soap to a CD.
Do you truly need more detailed instructions?
Do you need some kind of instructional video?

When I wash my hands I rub vigouously using a bar of Dial - I'm sure that
was not what was meant.

And if I seem overcautious it's because, as I mentioned in an earlier post,
I have marred or ruined some CDs by meticulously following the directions on
a commercial "CD Cleaning Kit" from a well known manufacturer.

Did you ever see the movie "Mr. Bean"? Recall the scene where he tries to
clean a few drops of sneeze from the painting "Whistlers Mother". It causes
a smudge, and then he tries to clean the smudge...and on and on, causing
more and more damage with each successive attempt to fix the previous
attempt's damage, until the painting is completely ruined.

I just don't want to go down that road with my CDs. I don't want to use
soap - only to find out that it is critical not to use soap that contains
phosphorous - or that propanol is OK but isopropyl will dissolve my CDs - or
that it's ok to get one side or the other wet, but don't submerge the CD or
water will seep into the edges and get inside and ruin it. I can imagine a
thousand ways I could ruin my CDs during a good-intentioned but not
well-informed attempt to clean them.

So yes, I do need more detailed directions and if you know of an
instructional video, please pass along the ordering directions.

(and I'm mischievously hoping that "the central scrutinizer" is now
worriedly reading the label of his soap, to see if it contains phosphorous,
and checking into the solubility of polycarbonate in propanol vs.
isopropyl.)


"TCS" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:00:32 -0700, someguy
wrote:
In an earlier post I asked about cleaning CDs.

Someone named Robert Morein said, "I use soap, water, and a Bounty towel,
wiping from center to edge."

What kind of soap is supposed to be used and in what method? Do you mean
dish soap, like Dawn?

it doesn't matter.

Do you know how to wash your hands? If you do, then you should be able
to figure out how to apply soap to a CD.

Do you truly need more detailed instructions?
Do you need some kind of instructional video?

"someguy" wrote in message

Do you know how to wash your hands? If you do, then you should be
able to figure out how to apply soap to a CD.
Do you truly need more detailed instructions?
Do you need some kind of instructional video?

When I wash my hands I rub vigouously using a bar of Dial - I'm sure
that was not what was meant.

Dial is a soap that seems to safely and effectively cleans CDs, when used
with appropriate amounts of water, of course.

Ivory Liquid also works. Dozens of perfectly ordinary cleaners work fine. I
think it is good that people be warned that the protective coating on the
back of the CD is both very critical to the useful life of the CD, and that
per industry standards, it's lacquer. Lacquer is attacked by a lot of
different organic solvents, including various alcohols.

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:08:58 -0700, someguy wrote:
Do you know how to wash your hands? If you do, then you should be able
to figure out how to apply soap to a CD.
Do you truly need more detailed instructions?
Do you need some kind of instructional video?

When I wash my hands I rub vigouously using a bar of Dial - I'm sure that
was not what was meant.

dial will work fine.


And if I seem overcautious it's because, as I mentioned in an earlier post,
I have marred or ruined some CDs by meticulously following the directions on
a commercial "CD Cleaning Kit" from a well known manufacturer.

Then you're an idiot. The worst thing that can be said about those commercial
cleaning kits is that they don't work on any scratch large enough to bother any
properly working CD player.

I'd recomend that you simply replace your CDs on a yearly basis. You're too
stupid to figure out how to either keep them clean or remove to fingerprints.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"someguy" wrote in message

Do you know how to wash your hands? If you do, then you should be
able to figure out how to apply soap to a CD.
Do you truly need more detailed instructions?
Do you need some kind of instructional video?

When I wash my hands I rub vigouously using a bar of Dial - I'm sure
that was not what was meant.

Dial is a soap that seems to safely and effectively cleans CDs, when used
with appropriate amounts of water, of course.

Ivory Liquid also works. Dozens of perfectly ordinary cleaners work fine.
I
think it is good that people be warned that the protective coating on the
back of the CD is both very critical to the useful life of the CD, and
that
per industry standards, it's lacquer. Lacquer is attacked by a lot of
different organic solvents, including various alcohols.

This is all correct.
Arny's been cribbing from my post.

Robert Morein said:

Arny's been cribbing from my post.

Been there, done that.

"Robert Morein" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"someguy" wrote in message

Do you know how to wash your hands? If you do, then you should be
able to figure out how to apply soap to a CD.
Do you truly need more detailed instructions?
Do you need some kind of instructional video?

When I wash my hands I rub vigouously using a bar of Dial - I'm sure
that was not what was meant.

Dial is a soap that seems to safely and effectively cleans CDs, when
used with appropriate amounts of water, of course.

Ivory Liquid also works. Dozens of perfectly ordinary cleaners work
fine. I think it is good that people be warned that the protective
coating on the back of the CD is both very critical to the useful
life of the CD, and that per industry standards, it's lacquer.
Lacquer is attacked by a lot of different organic solvents,
including various alcohols.

This is all correct.

Arny's been cribbing from my post.

Duhh Morein, like I need to read your posts to know which organic chemicals
attack lacquer. I've been working with lacquer since I was no older than 16,
painting cars, furniture, etc.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Robert Morein" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"someguy" wrote in message

Do you know how to wash your hands? If you do, then you should be
able to figure out how to apply soap to a CD.
Do you truly need more detailed instructions?
Do you need some kind of instructional video?

When I wash my hands I rub vigouously using a bar of Dial - I'm sure
that was not what was meant.

Dial is a soap that seems to safely and effectively cleans CDs, when
used with appropriate amounts of water, of course.

Ivory Liquid also works. Dozens of perfectly ordinary cleaners work
fine. I think it is good that people be warned that the protective
coating on the back of the CD is both very critical to the useful
life of the CD, and that per industry standards, it's lacquer.
Lacquer is attacked by a lot of different organic solvents,
including various alcohols.

This is all correct.

Arny's been cribbing from my post.

Duhh Morein, like I need to read your posts to know which organic
chemicals
attack lacquer. I've been working with lacquer since I was no older than
16,
painting cars, furniture, etc.

Quite believable.
Chronic xylene inhalation is known to cause organic brain damage.

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Robert Morein" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"someguy" wrote in message

Do you know how to wash your hands? If you do, then you should be
able to figure out how to apply soap to a CD.
Do you truly need more detailed instructions?
Do you need some kind of instructional video?

When I wash my hands I rub vigouously using a bar of Dial - I'm sure
that was not what was meant.

Dial is a soap that seems to safely and effectively cleans CDs, when
used with appropriate amounts of water, of course.

Ivory Liquid also works. Dozens of perfectly ordinary cleaners work
fine. I think it is good that people be warned that the protective
coating on the back of the CD is both very critical to the useful
life of the CD, and that per industry standards, it's lacquer.
Lacquer is attacked by a lot of different organic solvents,
including various alcohols.

This is all correct.

Arny's been cribbing from my post.

Duhh Morein, like I need to read your posts to know which organic
chemicals
attack lacquer. I've been working with lacquer since I was no older than
16,
painting cars, furniture, etc.

Quite believable.
Chronic xylene inhalation is known to cause organic brain damage.



I was going to say something about that, but a wave of
pity overcame me. Arny just left himself too defenseless
for that one!!!




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Sockpuppet Yustabe said:

Duhh Morein, like I need to read your posts to know which organic chemicals
attack lacquer. I've been working with lacquer since I was no older than 16,
painting cars, furniture, etc.

Quite believable.
Chronic xylene inhalation is known to cause organic brain damage.

I was going to say something about that, but a wave of
pity overcame me. Arny just left himself too defenseless
for that one!!!

Too bad the Kroo didn't get brain cancer like those workers at the
IBM plant.






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laboring tirelessly to de-Kroogerize Usenet.

Then you're an idiot. The worst thing that can be said about those
commercial cleaning kits is that they don't work on any scratch large enough
to bother any properly working CD player.

This kit did not claim to remove or reduce any scratches. It was merely to
clean them. The problem was whatever solution it came with did not dry
clean, it left a hazy residue that does not come off with another use or a
clean with Dial.

I'd recomend that you simply replace your CDs on a yearly basis. You're
too
stupid to figure out how to either keep them clean or remove to
fingerprints.

I'm not stupid, just old.

I started buying CDs when they first came out and they told us they were
"virtually indestructable". I figured out that was a lie pretty fast, but I
still had the carelessness of youth.

Now, many years and hundreds of CDs later I am sifting thru my CDs and
trying to figure out what I can keep and what is beyond hope. To replace
them all would cost over $5,000. So I figure messing around with a few
cleaning and scrach repair kits is small change and worth the effort.


"TCS" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:08:58 -0700, someguy
wrote:
Do you know how to wash your hands? If you do, then you should be able
to figure out how to apply soap to a CD.
Do you truly need more detailed instructions?
Do you need some kind of instructional video?

When I wash my hands I rub vigouously using a bar of Dial - I'm sure that
was not what was meant.

dial will work fine.


And if I seem overcautious it's because, as I mentioned in an earlier
post,
I have marred or ruined some CDs by meticulously following the directions
on
a commercial "CD Cleaning Kit" from a well known manufacturer.

Then you're an idiot. The worst thing that can be said about those
commercial
cleaning kits is that they don't work on any scratch large enough to
bother any
properly working CD player.

I'd recomend that you simply replace your CDs on a yearly basis. You're
too
stupid to figure out how to either keep them clean or remove to
fingerprints.

"someguy" wrote in message
...

I'm not stupid, just old.

I started buying CDs when they first came out and they told us they were
"virtually indestructable". I figured out that was a lie pretty fast,
but I
still had the carelessness of youth.

Now, many years and hundreds of CDs later I am sifting thru my CDs and
trying to figure out what I can keep and what is beyond hope. To replace
them all would cost over $5,000. So I figure messing around with a few
cleaning and scrach repair kits is small change and worth the effort.



I bought a used CD from a pawn/jewelry shop and it was badly scratched.
I returned it the owner used a jewelry buffer with a very light buffing
compound
and it took the scratch out. CD has now played fine for years.

I had some success with McGuires Mirror Glaze. A light polishing
compound/cleaner for plastics. I had a CD someone spilled coke on
and I had heard toothpaste was a good cleaner. Well, I got the coke
off but the CD was hazy enough to cause playing problems.
I was able to get it playable by rubbing with McGuires but I caution
you. It took a very long time. I'm thinking a buffing wheel on the
grinder with a very fine acrylic polishing compound will be easier.

I've got some old CD-Rs that are starting to fail. You can clearly see
the dye discoloring along the edge and the CD won't play the last
tracks.

ScottW

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:32:58 -0800, "ScottW"
wrote:


"someguy" wrote in message
...

I'm not stupid, just old.

I started buying CDs when they first came out and they told us they were
"virtually indestructable". I figured out that was a lie pretty fast,
but I
still had the carelessness of youth.

Now, many years and hundreds of CDs later I am sifting thru my CDs and
trying to figure out what I can keep and what is beyond hope. To replace
them all would cost over $5,000. So I figure messing around with a few
cleaning and scrach repair kits is small change and worth the effort.



I bought a used CD from a pawn/jewelry shop and it was badly scratched.
I returned it the owner used a jewelry buffer with a very light buffing
compound
and it took the scratch out. CD has now played fine for years.

I had some success with McGuires Mirror Glaze. A light polishing
compound/cleaner for plastics. I had a CD someone spilled coke on
and I had heard toothpaste was a good cleaner. Well, I got the coke
off but the CD was hazy enough to cause playing problems.
I was able to get it playable by rubbing with McGuires but I caution
you. It took a very long time. I'm thinking a buffing wheel on the
grinder with a very fine acrylic polishing compound will be easier.


Yep, a fine polishing compound like "Mirror Glaze", 3M's
"Finesse-It", or "Liquid Glass" will work wonders on scratched CDs and
DVDs. They've saved me a trip back to BlockBuster to exchange a DVD
several times.
You really need a buffing wheel like you described, or a
rotary buffer/polisher like the type used to detail cars (mine's a
Dewalt DW849) to make the job easy. Don't try to use one of those
"random orbital" polishers - they're pretty much just toys when it
comes to actually removing significant scratches, in CDs or in paint.

Scott Gardner

I've got some old CD-Rs that are starting to fail. You can clearly see
the dye discoloring along the edge and the CD won't play the last
tracks.

ScottW