R Krizman wrote:

Anybody here ever have the opportunity to work in mainland China? I'm curious
about what the studio scene there is like. ADATs? Pro Tools? Analog? Is
there a western-style session musician heirarchy? Are Chinese musicians
conversant in Western styles? Does Western style notation work for Chinese
classical musicians?

Are there any r.a.p. members in Beijing?

A guy working in a pretty danged up-to-date facility somewhere in that
there China used to post here on occassion. Wish I could remember his
name. (And yeah, wise guy, true, that ain't the only thing I wish I
could remember.)

Wait! GOOGLE!!

Dindae Sheena!

http://www.google.com/groups?q=recor...rophone+-mic+g
roup:rec.audio.pro&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=9dnoi0%24j4m30%241%40ID-61323
..news.dfncis.de&rnum=19


Meybe he's still happening there. If the URL wraps with returns, paste
it as a line.

--
hank alrich * secret mountain
audio recording * music production * sound reinforcement
"If laughter is the best medicine let's take a double dose"

In article writes:

Dindae Sheena now works for Genelec in the China Rep Office. He had a lot to
do with Oasis Studios in Beijing before joining Genelec.

Sounds like a good resource for learning about the studio situation in
China.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers - )

R Krizman wrote:
Anybody here ever have the opportunity to work in mainland China? I'm curious
about what the studio scene there is like. ADATs? Pro Tools? Analog? Is
there a western-style session musician heirarchy? Are Chinese musicians
conversant in Western styles? Does Western style notation work for Chinese
classical musicians?

Are there any r.a.p. members in Beijing?

Dindae Sheena is a Sikh working at Oasis Studios there, and he checks in
here now and then. He's a good person to ask about the studio scene there.

I gather, though, that most of the business there is in pop-rock stuff,
much like it is here, and that classical Chinese music is about as small
a niche market as classical Western music is here.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

(Mike Rivers) wrote in message news:znr1060081766k@trad...
In article writes:

Dindae Sheena now works for Genelec in the China Rep Office. He had a lot to
do with Oasis Studios in Beijing before joining Genelec.

Sounds like a good resource for learning about the studio situation in
China.

I'm kind of curious if all the musicians and lower end studios over
there like to buy and use low budget US and European Large Condensor
microphones...

Analogeezer

p.s. I lived in Taiwan (ok, not China, but pretty close) for three
years when I was around 12...you haven't LIVED until you've heard
Chinese opera. Imagine the dialogue from a Chinese version of reality
show arguing, combined with music that sounds like the collision of a
two marching bands made up of banjos and bagpipes and you get sense of
the sonic cacaphony.

I bet that stuff is a BITCH to record well...

Dindae Sheena now works for Genelec in the China Rep Office. He had a lot to
do with Oasis Studios in Beijing before joining Genelec. BRBR

You guys are amazing--many thanks!

Is Oasis Studios a famous place?

-R

Scott Dorsey wrote:

I gather, though, that most of the business there is in pop-rock stuff,
much like it is here, and that classical Chinese music is about as small
a niche market as classical Western music is here.

Well, what can you expect when you build classical music around things
not much different than banjos, and bagpipes without bags?

--
ha

(R Krizman) wrote in message ...
Anybody here ever have the opportunity to work in mainland China? I'm curious
about what the studio scene there is like. ADATs? Pro Tools? Analog? Is
there a western-style session musician heirarchy? Are Chinese musicians
conversant in Western styles? Does Western style notation work for Chinese
classical musicians?

Are there any r.a.p. members in Beijing?

-R

Cover your ass, bring an extra passport, you never know when you might need it.
Jim Williams
Audio Upgrades

(R Krizman) writes:
Anybody here ever have the opportunity to work in mainland China?

Well, work, yes, though I don't work in the music industry

I'd like to notify another author that Taiwan is a part of China,
according to the formal opinion of both the People's Republic and the
Republic (though it is not mainland China). Not that it matters when
you're in the U.S. or Europe, but when you are in China, take care
what you say. No, the government won't step in to correc tyou, but
your local friends and colleagues will.

I'm curious
about what the studio scene there is like. ADATs? Pro Tools? Analog?

I'd imagine there's a wide variation of everything.

Is
there a western-style session musician heirarchy? Are Chinese musicians
conversant in Western styles?

I don't know anything about session musicians, but I saw some club
bands playing Western covers (stuff like Pink Floyd) and they were
very good.

Does Western style notation work for Chinese
classical musicians?

I don't think so.

--
Pekka Taipale -- pjt at iki.fi -- http://www.iki.fi/pjt/

Thanks Pekka,
-R

you haven't LIVED until you've heard
Chinese opera. Imagine the dialogue from a Chinese version of reality
show arguing, combined with music that sounds like the collision of a
two marching bands made up of banjos and bagpipes and you get sense of
the sonic cacaphony.

Don't forget the unbelievably loud hand cymbals. I had the questionable honor
of being invited to sit next to the cymbalist on stage for some of this stuff
in Beijing & I think I lost a couple K of high end in my left ear in a matter
of minutes. Yes, pretty wild stuff.

Scott Fraser

Here's an interesting footnote:

My fiancee came from Shanghai and still visits every year or two. She says
the general taste in music there is more traditional than here so a
proportionally higher percentage of the listening public enjoys (Western)
classical music. Sure, contemporary pop music still dominates but even that
tends to be more traditional than Western pop.

One other tidbit: Although it is doubtless a tiny niche, jazz is making
inroads in China, espcially in Beijing, Hong Kong, and Shanghai. While
festivals are far from rampant, jazz clubs are appearing everywhere. One of
the advertisers in my magazine (he also is a friend) owns a couple of
factories in small cities each about a hundred miles from Shanghai. He says
a lot of nightclubs now bill themselves as "jazz" clubs; it's the latest
rage. And many feature live jazz consisting of both Western and Chinese
musicians. He says Shanghai has three or four radio stations that play jazz,
too.

I suspect China might be a potential market for the kind of acoustic stuff
many on this group like to record.

"Uncle Russ" Reinberg


"Scott Dorsey" wrote:

I gather, though, that most of the business there is in pop-rock stuff,
much like it is here, and that classical Chinese music is about as small
a niche market as classical Western music is here.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

When you think about what's starting to happen in Hong Kong, I doubt
that Taiwan is all the eager to join China.


Of course not. They've never had the slightest interest in being absorbed into
the PRC.


Scott Fraser