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Default Why do most commercial recordings (talking Classical and Jazz,

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On 4/21/2013 2:19 PM, Audio_Empire wrote:
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I say that it contains NO directional information. Obviously it
contains spatial clues in the form of delayed and attenuated information
from the reverberant field. These effects clearly can be interpreted as
a sense of spaciousness. Spaciousness is an attribute unrelated to
direction, and directional information is what you need for your model
to work the way you seem to think that it works.


It's more than a "sense of spaciousness" as you so blithely put it. Done
correctly, it can provide an accurate audio snapshot of the musical
event.


Really? How exactly is the directional information encoded in the
recorded signal?

One which can show, with amazingly pin-point accuracy, the
location of every instrument in the sound field. And I don't just mean
right to left either. I mean front to back, and top to bottom. you can
tell, for instance if certain instruments are in front of, or behind
others, and whether or not some instruments (or voices) are on risers.
That's a lot of information from "delayed and attenuated" information.


And that differs from what I said...how?


Who said that I was disagreeing with you. I'm merely adding to your
statement.

Shows how remarkable the human ear/brain interface is as deciphering
clues about directionality.

So therefore we cannot reconstruct it at home. So my question to you would
be, what are you doing about it? Do you just give up on the concept of
stereo?

I'm quite happy with my 'concept' and implementation of stereo. Given
the limits of commercially available recorded music, my stereo is not
"broken", and is not in need of some novel replay concept to "fix" it.
You are alone, as far as I can tell, in your perception that some
"stereo crisis" exists.


The only "stereo crises" that exists as far as I can see is the fact
that so few record company producers and engineers properly exploit the
tools and techniques available to them and don't give music lovers
enough proper "real" stereo product.


I believe I've said that a number of times. And?

Many seem to share the general
public's misconception that "stereo" only means "two channels" and so
that's all they care about. Make sure that release has a left and a
right channel. No matter how that's done or what's in them.


"Stereo" typically does mean 2-channel.


No it doesn't. "Stereo" means solid, or three-dimensional. Most people's
ignorance of the term's provenance doesn't change either the provenance
or the meaning.

The general public doesn't have
a misconception in this regard. They need only look at the VAST
majority of "stereo" recordings to see what "stereo" is typically
construed to mean. *Can* it be different? Yes. Is it typically
different? No.


Again, ignorance does not change truth. If the vast hoi-poloi thinks
that a recording only needs to be two channel to be stereo, that's their
problem, not mine. Those who care, know. Those who don't care, by
definition don't need to know what stereo's all about.

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