[Tobiah]

On various external units here, anything from 3.5mm stereo jacks, to balanced, +10dbu 14 inch jacks via phonos.

Actually, it has been discovered that while soundcard companies continue to hype the virtues
of the new 14 inch jacks, the true push is coming from backing from Monster Cable, who at
this time has the sole rights to manufacture them.

Tobiah

[Steve King]

John Williamson wrote:
On 10/04/2013 13:21, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
Jeff Henig wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:

I think you have just discovered the difference between
professional and consumer equipment.
--scott

Roger that.

What you guys sayin - they have sound cards with XLR jacks on them?
Or do you use USB connections to something external? Spill!

USB or Firewire. It keeps the analogue bits away from the electrical
noise inside the computer.

Or one like this:-

http://www.dv247.com/computer-hardwa...interface--173

Fits into a PCI slot on the motherboard and is *much* better quality
than motherboard sound.

Cards like this were around in 1995, and I'm still using one with a
PCI card in the computer and a breakout box with 8 ins, 4 outs, and a
midi synth built in. It's a bit noisy by modern standards, but it
does the job for some sources.

I'm still using a Digital Audio Labs stereo in/out through 1/4 inch TRS
jacks. I could change it, but I can't come up with an argument to do so;-)
I only record 2-tracks on this rig.

Steve King

[Bill[_20_]]

In message , Phil W
writes
Gary Eickmeier:
Jason wrote:

5.5 wasn't "bad," it was just missing a lot from earlier versions
because they rewrote all the code and didn't finish it in time for
the CS release. The CS6 version has 'em back (except for a couple)
and has some new features as well. I recommend upgrading. Both CS5.5
and CS6 versions will take advantage of multiple cpu cores, unlike
all the earlier versions.

Jason

I have an Athlon 64 processor, but just a 32 bit OS - will it work
with XP Pro 32 bit?

Man, learn to use a web search engine like Google! It´s so easy, that
even you should be able to find thousands of correct answers! Do you
also need somebody telling and showing you how to breath in and out?

What CPU you´ve got, does not matter! What matters is the OS, though 64
bit Windows 7 should run most 32 bit programs flawlessly.

I'm not sure this is totally fair. There are some complications with
later versions of Audition and certain AMD processors, which is the
context in which the question was asked.

FWIW, the minimum processor ia stated by Adobe to be a Phenom, rather
than an Athlon.
--
Bill

[polymod]

"Steve King" wrote in message
...
John Williamson wrote:
On 10/04/2013 13:21, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
Jeff Henig wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:

I think you have just discovered the difference between
professional and consumer equipment.
--scott

Roger that.

What you guys sayin - they have sound cards with XLR jacks on them?
Or do you use USB connections to something external? Spill!

USB or Firewire. It keeps the analogue bits away from the electrical
noise inside the computer.

Or one like this:-

http://www.dv247.com/computer-hardwa...interface--173

Fits into a PCI slot on the motherboard and is *much* better quality
than motherboard sound.

Cards like this were around in 1995, and I'm still using one with a
PCI card in the computer and a breakout box with 8 ins, 4 outs, and a
midi synth built in. It's a bit noisy by modern standards, but it
does the job for some sources.

I'm still using a Digital Audio Labs stereo in/out through 1/4 inch TRS
jacks. I could change it, but I can't come up with an argument to do
so;-) I only record 2-tracks on this rig.

Same here.

Poly

[John Williamson]

On 10/04/2013 18:48, Jeff Henig wrote:
"Gary Eickmeier" wrote:
Jeff Henig wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
In article ,
Gary Eickmeier wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
Gary Eickmeier wrote:

The phase problem has to be at the amplifier, because speakers
wired out of phase just sound funky, but still put out plenty of
sound. But if the leads from the sound card to the amp are out of
phase, then a mono signal would put a perfect null into the
amplifier!

Let me guess, you have a 3.5mm jack on the output of the
soundcard....

Yes of course. What choice do I have?

I think you have just discovered the difference between professional
and consumer equipment.
--scott

Roger that.

What you guys sayin - they have sound cards with XLR jacks on them? Or do
you use USB connections to something external? Spill!

Gary

Yes. If you've a spare PCI slot, find a used Delta 1010LT. They're not
expensive.

They're not all *that* expensive new...

About 150 GBP was the first that came up on Amazon.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

[Mike Rivers]

On 4/10/2013 8:21 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:

What you guys sayin - they have sound cards with XLR jacks on them? Or do
you use USB connections to something external? Spill!


Sound :"cards" with few exceptions have mini phone jacks. "Computer
audio interfaces" may have a card that goes into the computer and
connects to an outboard box with real connectors, or may connect to the
computer via USB or Firewire.

--
"Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without
a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be
operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson

Drop by http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com now and then

[Here In Oregon]

"polymod" wrote in message

"Steve King" I'm still using a Digital Audio Labs stereo in/out through
1/4 inch TRS
jacks. I could change it, but I can't come up with an argument to do
so;-) I only record 2-tracks on this rig.

Same here.

Poly


Yep, better known as the "Card D" which could record at 16 bit.

The first computer I built for audio recording the SCSI hard drive *alone*
was $1750.00 and was a whopping 3.4 gigabyte.

[Here In Oregon]

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message

On 4/10/2013 8:21 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:

What you guys sayin - they have sound cards with XLR jacks on them? Or do
you use USB connections to something external? Spill!


Sound :"cards" with few exceptions have mini phone jacks. "Computer
audio interfaces" may have a card that goes into the computer and
connects to an outboard box with real connectors, or may connect to the
computer via USB or Firewire.


Yep, like the Echo Gina, Layla, and Mia girls which could record at a
whopping 20 bit.

[Bill[_20_]]

In message , Here In Oregon
writes
Yep, like the Echo Gina, Layla, and Mia girls which could record at a
whopping 20 bit.

But had some weird dual 1/4" jack sockets that were a real sod to
re-tension, and were too close together for some larger bodied jack
plugs.
Even though there were no drivers, my Darla 20 worked fine on Windows 7.
I still use the Darla24.

It's not too long since I retired my ISA bus cards - Gadget Labs Wave 4
and the Media Magic card that had on-board mp2 coding.
--
Bill

[Here In Oregon]

"Bill" wrote in message

In message , Here In Oregon
writes
Yep, like the Echo Gina, Layla, and Mia girls which could record at a
whopping 20 bit.

But had some weird dual 1/4" jack sockets that were a real sod to
re-tension, and were too close together for some larger bodied jack
plugs.
Even though there were no drivers, my Darla 20 worked fine on Windows 7.
I still use the Darla24.

It's not too long since I retired my ISA bus cards - Gadget Labs Wave 4
and the Media Magic card that had on-board mp2 coding.
--
Bill



Even though there were no drivers, my Darla 20 worked fine on Windows 7.

How could I have forgot Darla?

However,... she would of have to have someone drive her or she would not
have been able to perform. g

[hank alrich]

Tobiah wrote:

On various external units here, anything from 3.5mm stereo jacks, to
balanced, +10dbu 14 inch jacks via phonos.


Actually, it has been discovered that while soundcard companies continue
to hype the virtues of the new 14 inch jacks, the true push is coming from
backing from Monster Cable, who at this time has the sole rights to
manufacture them.

Tobiah

Is that a Monster Jack in her rack, or is she just glad to see him?

--
shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/
http://hankandshaidrimusic.com/
http://www.youtube.com/walkinaymusic

[Gary Eickmeier]

hank alrich wrote:
Tobiah wrote:

On various external units here, anything from 3.5mm stereo jacks, to
balanced, +10dbu 14 inch jacks via phonos.


Actually, it has been discovered that while soundcard companies
continue to hype the virtues of the new 14 inch jacks, the true push
is coming from backing from Monster Cable, who at this time has the
sole rights to manufacture them.

Tobiah

Is that a Monster Jack in her rack, or is she just glad to see him?

OK, ya got me - is this 14 inch jack a joke or for real? What the devil you
guys talking about?

Gary

[Gary Eickmeier]

Here In Oregon wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message

In message , Here In Oregon
writes
Yep, like the Echo Gina, Layla, and Mia girls which could record at a
whopping 20 bit.

But had some weird dual 1/4" jack sockets that were a real sod to
re-tension, and were too close together for some larger bodied jack
plugs.
Even though there were no drivers, my Darla 20 worked fine on Windows
7. I still use the Darla24.

It's not too long since I retired my ISA bus cards - Gadget Labs Wave
4 and the Media Magic card that had on-board mp2 coding.

Even though there were no drivers, my Darla 20 worked fine on
Windows 7.

How could I have forgot Darla?

However,... she would of have to have someone drive her or she would
not have been able to perform. g


All that info sounds like a whole new world for me to explore some fine day.
But I hope you guys realize that I am not using the sound card for the
actual sound that goes out to disc! The sound remains entirely in the
digital domain. All I use the suond card for is monitoring the mix and
working in Audition so I can hear what I am doing. Sound quality of that is
relatively unimportant. Nor do I record sound on my computer.

Gary

[Gary Eickmeier]

Bill wrote:
In message , Phil W
writes
Gary Eickmeier:
Jason wrote:

5.5 wasn't "bad," it was just missing a lot from earlier versions
because they rewrote all the code and didn't finish it in time for
the CS release. The CS6 version has 'em back (except for a couple)
and has some new features as well. I recommend upgrading. Both
CS5.5 and CS6 versions will take advantage of multiple cpu cores,
unlike all the earlier versions.

Jason

I have an Athlon 64 processor, but just a 32 bit OS - will it work
with XP Pro 32 bit?

Man, learn to use a web search engine like Google! It´s so easy, that
even you should be able to find thousands of correct answers! Do you
also need somebody telling and showing you how to breath in and out?

What CPU you´ve got, does not matter! What matters is the OS, though
64 bit Windows 7 should run most 32 bit programs flawlessly.

I'm not sure this is totally fair. There are some complications with
later versions of Audition and certain AMD processors, which is the
context in which the question was asked.

FWIW, the minimum processor ia stated by Adobe to be a Phenom, rather
than an Athlon.

Yes, I can look all of that stuff up when I get the chance. Right now I am
trying to finish editing this masterwork and research an AV system
installation for a local church and edit some photos for a play my daughter
was in and edit a wedding video and respond to a thread in RAHE and help the
boss at work start two new companies with some promotional video and get
some invoices out for some dance recitals and fix some programming of our
office computers and put out a newsletter for the homeowners association so
we can have "work day" on Saturday.

My questions about the sound card on my computer are genuine and not a
troll, amusing tho they may be. I told Scott that my last one was
rhetorical, so don't respond until I can do some more troubleshooting.
Haven't had time to get down and swap parts yet. Apologies to all for trying
your patience, but I did get a lot out of it, so thanks again. Will let you
know the "rest of the story."

Gary Eickmeier

[John Williamson]

On 11/04/2013 05:00, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
hank alrich wrote:
Tobiah wrote:

On various external units here, anything from 3.5mm stereo jacks, to
balanced, +10dbu 14 inch jacks via phonos.


Actually, it has been discovered that while soundcard companies
continue to hype the virtues of the new 14 inch jacks, the true push
is coming from backing from Monster Cable, who at this time has the
sole rights to manufacture them.

Tobiah

Is that a Monster Jack in her rack, or is she just glad to see him?

OK, ya got me - is this 14 inch jack a joke or for real? What the devil you
guys talking about?

It's a typo. 1/4 inch...


--
Tciao for Now!

John.

[John Williamson]

On 11/04/2013 05:16, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
Here In Oregon wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message

In message , Here In Oregon
writes
Yep, like the Echo Gina, Layla, and Mia girls which could record at a
whopping 20 bit.

But had some weird dual 1/4" jack sockets that were a real sod to
re-tension, and were too close together for some larger bodied jack
plugs.
Even though there were no drivers, my Darla 20 worked fine on Windows
7. I still use the Darla24.

It's not too long since I retired my ISA bus cards - Gadget Labs Wave
4 and the Media Magic card that had on-board mp2 coding.

Even though there were no drivers, my Darla 20 worked fine on
Windows 7.

How could I have forgot Darla?

However,... she would of have to have someone drive her or she would
not have been able to perform. g


All that info sounds like a whole new world for me to explore some fine day.
But I hope you guys realize that I am not using the sound card for the
actual sound that goes out to disc! The sound remains entirely in the
digital domain. All I use the suond card for is monitoring the mix and
working in Audition so I can hear what I am doing. Sound quality of that is
relatively unimportant. Nor do I record sound on my computer.

I'd differ from you there. Sound quality when you're monitoring is
extremey important. If you can't hear what's been recorded, how do you
know what the end user is going to hear?

One of my favourite tracks (Paul Simon - Diamonds On The Soles Of Her
Shoes, off the Graceland album) made it to CD with a 16kHz or so whistle
on it at about -20dB, presumably because someone didn't hear it while it
was being mastered.


--
Tciao for Now!

John.

[Gary Eickmeier]

John Williamson wrote:
On 11/04/2013 05:00, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
hank alrich wrote:
Tobiah wrote:

On various external units here, anything from 3.5mm stereo jacks,
to balanced, +10dbu 14 inch jacks via phonos.


Actually, it has been discovered that while soundcard companies
continue to hype the virtues of the new 14 inch jacks, the true
push is coming from backing from Monster Cable, who at this time
has the sole rights to manufacture them.

Tobiah

Is that a Monster Jack in her rack, or is she just glad to see him?

OK, ya got me - is this 14 inch jack a joke or for real? What the
devil you guys talking about?

It's a typo. 1/4 inch...

Oh fer the luvva - and you all carried it all the way through...

Gary

[Gary Eickmeier]

John Williamson wrote:

I'd differ from you there. Sound quality when you're monitoring is
extremey important. If you can't hear what's been recorded, how do you
know what the end user is going to hear?

One of my favourite tracks (Paul Simon - Diamonds On The Soles Of Her
Shoes, off the Graceland album) made it to CD with a 16kHz or so
whistle on it at about -20dB, presumably because someone didn't hear
it while it was being mastered.

Of course I will listen to the tracks on the big system after the disc is
mastered, and I know my mikes and recorders etc, so all I am basically doing
is cutting the tracks and doing the fades and building the CD, and I can see
the waveforms on the screen, so I pretty much know what I am getting. But
you are right, I don't hear the full deal until I go out and listen in the
theater room.

Gary

[Mark]

On Apr 11, 4:01*am, John Williamson
wrote:
On 11/04/2013 05:16, Gary Eickmeier wrote:







Here In Oregon wrote:
"Bill" *wrote in message

In message , Here In Oregon
writes
Yep, like the Echo Gina, Layla, and Mia girls which could record at a
whopping 20 bit.

But had some weird dual 1/4" jack sockets that were a real sod to
re-tension, and were too close together for some larger bodied jack
plugs.
Even though there were no drivers, my Darla 20 worked fine on Windows
7. I still use the Darla24.

It's not too long since I retired my ISA bus cards - Gadget Labs Wave
4 and the Media Magic card that had on-board mp2 coding.

Even though there were no drivers, my Darla 20 worked fine on
Windows 7.

How could I have forgot Darla?

However,... she would of have to have someone drive her or she would
not have been able to perform. g

All that info sounds like a whole new world for me to explore some fine day.
But I hope you guys realize that I am not using the sound card for the
actual sound that goes out to disc! The sound remains entirely in the
digital domain. All I use the suond card for is monitoring the mix and
working in Audition so I can hear what I am doing. Sound quality of that is
relatively unimportant. Nor do I record sound on my computer.

I'd differ from you there. Sound quality when you're monitoring is
extremey important. If you can't hear what's been recorded, how do you
know what the end user is going to hear?

One of my favourite tracks (Paul Simon - Diamonds On The Soles Of Her
Shoes, off the Graceland album) made it to CD with a 16kHz or so whistle
on it at about -20dB, presumably because someone didn't hear it while it
was being mastered.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

that would make an interesting thread to start here one day...

technical goofs in commercial recordings that we can all enjoy...

i remember the Crosby Still Nash and Young song "Teach Your
Children".. if you listen to it in mono, there is a clear audible
change in the HF response during the chorus that sounds a lot like
azimuth change. (listening in mono makes the effect of azimuth much
more critical) I later read someplace that different parts of the
song were recorded at different studios ... so that made sense...

Mark

[John Williamson]

On 11/04/2013 15:22, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
John Williamson wrote:
On 11/04/2013 05:00, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
hank alrich wrote:
Tobiah wrote:

On various external units here, anything from 3.5mm stereo jacks,
to balanced, +10dbu 14 inch jacks via phonos.


Actually, it has been discovered that while soundcard companies
continue to hype the virtues of the new 14 inch jacks, the true
push is coming from backing from Monster Cable, who at this time
has the sole rights to manufacture them.

Tobiah

Is that a Monster Jack in her rack, or is she just glad to see him?

OK, ya got me - is this 14 inch jack a joke or for real? What the
devil you guys talking about?

It's a typo. 1/4 inch...

Oh fer the luvva - and you all carried it all the way through...

It was set for at least a few more posts yet.... Big Grin


--
Tciao for Now!

John.

[hank alrich]

John Williamson wrote:

On 11/04/2013 05:00, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
hank alrich wrote:
Tobiah wrote:

On various external units here, anything from 3.5mm stereo jacks, to
balanced, +10dbu 14 inch jacks via phonos.


Actually, it has been discovered that while soundcard companies
continue to hype the virtues of the new 14 inch jacks, the true push
is coming from backing from Monster Cable, who at this time has the
sole rights to manufacture them.

Tobiah

Is that a Monster Jack in her rack, or is she just glad to see him?

OK, ya got me - is this 14 inch jack a joke or for real? What the devil you
guys talking about?

It's a typo. 1/4 inch...

Now you had to go and spoil all the fun, John! g


--
shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/
http://hankandshaidrimusic.com/
http://www.youtube.com/walkinaymusic

[hank alrich]

Gary Eickmeier wrote:

John Williamson wrote:
On 11/04/2013 05:00, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
hank alrich wrote:
Tobiah wrote:

On various external units here, anything from 3.5mm stereo jacks,
to balanced, +10dbu 14 inch jacks via phonos.


Actually, it has been discovered that while soundcard companies
continue to hype the virtues of the new 14 inch jacks, the true
push is coming from backing from Monster Cable, who at this time
has the sole rights to manufacture them.

Tobiah

Is that a Monster Jack in her rack, or is she just glad to see him?

OK, ya got me - is this 14 inch jack a joke or for real? What the
devil you guys talking about?

It's a typo. 1/4 inch...

Oh fer the luvva - and you all carried it all the way through...

Gary

Many of us work in some branch of the entertainment industry.

--
shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/
http://hankandshaidrimusic.com/
http://www.youtube.com/walkinaymusic

[John Williamson]

On 11/04/2013 17:56, hank alrich wrote:
John Williamson wrote:

On 11/04/2013 05:00, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
hank alrich wrote:
Tobiah wrote:

On various external units here, anything from 3.5mm stereo jacks, to
balanced, +10dbu 14 inch jacks via phonos.


Actually, it has been discovered that while soundcard companies
continue to hype the virtues of the new 14 inch jacks, the true push
is coming from backing from Monster Cable, who at this time has the
sole rights to manufacture them.

Tobiah

Is that a Monster Jack in her rack, or is she just glad to see him?

OK, ya got me - is this 14 inch jack a joke or for real? What the devil you
guys talking about?

It's a typo. 1/4 inch...

Now you had to go and spoil all the fun, John! g


Tries to look contrite Fails dismally :-)

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

[Ron C[_2_]]

On 4/11/2013 3:56 AM, John Williamson wrote:
On 11/04/2013 05:00, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
hank alrich wrote:
Tobiah wrote:

On various external units here, anything from 3.5mm stereo jacks, to
balanced, +10dbu 14 inch jacks via phonos.


Actually, it has been discovered that while soundcard companies
continue to hype the virtues of the new 14 inch jacks, the true push
is coming from backing from Monster Cable, who at this time has the
sole rights to manufacture them.

Tobiah

Is that a Monster Jack in her rack, or is she just glad to see him?

OK, ya got me - is this 14 inch jack a joke or for real? What the
devil you
guys talking about?

It's a typo. 1/4 inch...


That's what she said.
==
--

[Steve King]

Gary Eickmeier wrote:
Bill wrote:
In message , Phil W
writes
Gary Eickmeier:
Jason wrote:

5.5 wasn't "bad," it was just missing a lot from earlier versions
because they rewrote all the code and didn't finish it in time for
the CS release. The CS6 version has 'em back (except for a couple)
and has some new features as well. I recommend upgrading. Both
CS5.5 and CS6 versions will take advantage of multiple cpu cores,
unlike all the earlier versions.

Jason

I have an Athlon 64 processor, but just a 32 bit OS - will it work
with XP Pro 32 bit?

Man, learn to use a web search engine like Google! It´s so easy,
that even you should be able to find thousands of correct answers!
Do you also need somebody telling and showing you how to breath in
and out? What CPU you´ve got, does not matter! What matters is the OS,
though
64 bit Windows 7 should run most 32 bit programs flawlessly.

I'm not sure this is totally fair. There are some complications with
later versions of Audition and certain AMD processors, which is the
context in which the question was asked.

FWIW, the minimum processor ia stated by Adobe to be a Phenom, rather
than an Athlon.

Yes, I can look all of that stuff up when I get the chance. Right now
I am trying to finish editing this masterwork and research an AV
system installation for a local church and edit some photos for a
play my daughter was in and edit a wedding video and respond to a
thread in RAHE and help the boss at work start two new companies with
some promotional video and get some invoices out for some dance
recitals and fix some programming of our office computers and put out
a newsletter for the homeowners association so we can have "work day"
on Saturday.


I completed a list like that today before breakfast. Right now, I'm
revising the U.S. tax code. Got to get back to work. Told my wife I
wouldn't be late for dinner. ;-)


Steve King

[Arny Krueger[_5_]]

"Here In Oregon" wrote in message
...


"Mike Rivers" wrote in message

On 4/10/2013 8:21 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:

What you guys sayin - they have sound cards with XLR jacks on them? Or do
you use USB connections to something external? Spill!


Sound :"cards" with few exceptions have mini phone jacks. "Computer
audio interfaces" may have a card that goes into the computer and
connects to an outboard box with real connectors, or may connect to the
computer via USB or Firewire.


Yep, like the Echo Gina, Layla, and Mia girls which could record at a
whopping 20 bit.


Maybe 20 bits of data, but the dynamic range said only 16-17 bit resolution.

All of those were PCI. Last ISA card with serious pretentions to quality
that I used was a Turtle Beach Pinnacle.

[Neil Gould]

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Here In Oregon" wrote in message
...


"Mike Rivers" wrote in message

On 4/10/2013 8:21 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:

What you guys sayin - they have sound cards with XLR jacks on them?
Or do you use USB connections to something external? Spill!


Sound :"cards" with few exceptions have mini phone jacks. "Computer
audio interfaces" may have a card that goes into the computer and
connects to an outboard box with real connectors, or may connect to
the computer via USB or Firewire.


Yep, like the Echo Gina, Layla, and Mia girls which could record at a
whopping 20 bit.


Maybe 20 bits of data, but the dynamic range said only 16-17 bit
resolution.

All of those were PCI. Last ISA card with serious pretentions to
quality that I used was a Turtle Beach Pinnacle.

I had a Pinnacle, and although it was good, it was not nearly as good as my
Zephiro ZA2.

--
best regards,

Neil

[Gary Eickmeier]

Steve King wrote:

I completed a list like that today before breakfast. Right now, I'm
revising the U.S. tax code. Got to get back to work. Told my wife I
wouldn't be late for dinner. ;-)


Steve King

Bless you! And best of luck....

Gary

[Arny Krueger[_5_]]

"Neil Gould" wrote in message
...
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Here In Oregon" wrote in message
...


"Mike Rivers" wrote in message

On 4/10/2013 8:21 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:

What you guys sayin - they have sound cards with XLR jacks on them?
Or do you use USB connections to something external? Spill!


Sound :"cards" with few exceptions have mini phone jacks. "Computer
audio interfaces" may have a card that goes into the computer and
connects to an outboard box with real connectors, or may connect to
the computer via USB or Firewire.


Yep, like the Echo Gina, Layla, and Mia girls which could record at a
whopping 20 bit.


Maybe 20 bits of data, but the dynamic range said only 16-17 bit
resolution.

All of those were PCI. Last ISA card with serious pretentions to
quality that I used was a Turtle Beach Pinnacle.

I had a Pinnacle, and although it was good, it was not nearly as good as
my
Zephiro ZA2.

If memory serves the Zephiro ZA2 was digital only, while the Pinnacle was
both analog and digital. Since bits = bits...

[Les Cargill[_4_]]

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Neil Gould" wrote in message
...
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Here In Oregon" wrote in message
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message

On 4/10/2013 8:21 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:

What you guys sayin - they have sound cards with XLR jacks on them?
Or do you use USB connections to something external? Spill!


Sound :"cards" with few exceptions have mini phone jacks. "Computer
audio interfaces" may have a card that goes into the computer and
connects to an outboard box with real connectors, or may connect to
the computer via USB or Firewire.


Yep, like the Echo Gina, Layla, and Mia girls which could record at a
whopping 20 bit.


Maybe 20 bits of data, but the dynamic range said only 16-17 bit
resolution.

All of those were PCI. Last ISA card with serious pretentions to
quality that I used was a Turtle Beach Pinnacle.

I had a Pinnacle, and although it was good, it was not nearly as good as
my
Zephiro ZA2.

If memory serves the Zephiro ZA2 was digital only, while the Pinnacle was
both analog and digital. Since bits = bits...




THAT'S THE JOKE.

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Les Cargill

[Neil Gould]

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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message

On 4/10/2013 8:21 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:

What you guys sayin - they have sound cards with XLR jacks on
them? Or do you use USB connections to something external? Spill!


Sound :"cards" with few exceptions have mini phone jacks.
"Computer
audio interfaces" may have a card that goes into the computer and
connects to an outboard box with real connectors, or may connect to
the computer via USB or Firewire.


Yep, like the Echo Gina, Layla, and Mia girls which could record
at a whopping 20 bit.


Maybe 20 bits of data, but the dynamic range said only 16-17 bit
resolution.

All of those were PCI. Last ISA card with serious pretentions to
quality that I used was a Turtle Beach Pinnacle.

I had a Pinnacle, and although it was good, it was not nearly as
good as my
Zephiro ZA2.

If memory serves the Zephiro ZA2 was digital only, while the Pinnacle
was both analog and digital. Since bits = bits...

You're right... I forgot about the Zefiro Inbox A/D that I used with it.
It's been a while, ya know!

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best regards,

Neil