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I know this is basic. I have done over 130 cd's. Still always enjoy
advice. I recored a Blues band electric guitar,p bass and drums and harmonica. Last cd we won some awards. It was cool. Before I panned the guitar about 10 o'clock and the harp 2 o'clock. If we dub 2 guitars I will of course pan L and R. Unfortunately I think many tunes It will be 1 guitar+ solo guitar in spots. I don't know how they did it but Johnny Winter had a song "Be carful with the fool'. The guitar does not sound delayed but it's in both sides. Anyone have any tricks? GT. |
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gtbuba wrote:
I know this is basic. I have done over 130 cd's. Still always enjoy advice. I recored a Blues band electric guitar,p bass and drums and harmonica. Last cd we won some awards. It was cool. Before I panned the guitar about 10 o'clock and the harp 2 o'clock. If we dub 2 guitars I will of course pan L and R. Unfortunately I think many tunes It will be 1 guitar+ solo guitar in spots. I don't know how they did it but Johnny Winter had a song "Be carful with the fool'. The guitar does not sound delayed but it's in both sides. Anyone have any tricks? GT. It may well have been doubled. Use a 10 or 20 msec delay, panned. You can use any delay, actually - it's just that 10 or 20 sec is inside the Haas limit. -- Les Cargill |
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On May 29, 7:31*pm, Les Cargill wrote:
gtbuba wrote: I know this is basic. I have done over 130 cd's. Still always enjoy advice. *I recored a Blues band electric guitar,p bass and drums and harmonica. Last cd we won some awards. It was cool. *Before I panned the guitar about 10 o'clock and the harp 2 o'clock. *If we dub 2 guitars I will of course pan L and R. *Unfortunately I think many tunes It will be 1 guitar+ solo guitar in spots. *I don't know how they did it but Johnny Winter had a song "Be carful with the fool'. * *The guitar does not sound delayed but it's in both sides. Anyone have any tricks? * GT. It may well have been doubled. Use a 10 or 20 msec delay, panned. You can use any delay, actually - it's just that 10 or 20 sec is inside the Haas limit. -- Les Cargill Ok I will try 10 to 20 panned out. Here is the JW guitar sound. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxOiiqleJuI |
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On 29 May 2012, gtbuba wrote in
rec.audio.pro: Ok I will try 10 to 20 panned out. Here is the JW guitar sound. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxOiiqleJuI I can only listen right now on my tiny laptop speakers, but it sounds to me like there's little or no artificial delay, but rather the guitar is recorded in stereo in a rather live room, and they're capturing quite a bit of the room's ambiance. |
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gtbuba wrote:
On May 29, 7:31 pm, Les wrote: gtbuba wrote: I know this is basic. I have done over 130 cd's. Still always enjoy advice. I recored a Blues band electric guitar,p bass and drums and harmonica. Last cd we won some awards. It was cool. Before I panned the guitar about 10 o'clock and the harp 2 o'clock. If we dub 2 guitars I will of course pan L and R. Unfortunately I think many tunes It will be 1 guitar+ solo guitar in spots. I don't know how they did it but Johnny Winter had a song "Be carful with the fool'. The guitar does not sound delayed but it's in both sides. Anyone have any tricks? GT. It may well have been doubled. Use a 10 or 20 msec delay, panned. You can use any delay, actually - it's just that 10 or 20 sec is inside the Haas limit. -- Les Cargill Ok I will try 10 to 20 panned out. Here is the JW guitar sound. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxOiiqleJuI That just sounds like room tone/room return. Pan a little digital room right against the guitar panned left if you don't have a good space ( most of us don't ). -- Les Cargill |
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Another useful trick: use the amp to drive two different cabinets, or
maybe use two different amps. Mike them with separate mics, or maybe do something like an ORTF pair in the room with both. Or maybe all of the above, on separate tracks. Peace, Paul |
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gtbuba wrote:
I know this is basic. I have done over 130 cd's. Still always enjoy advice. I recored a Blues band electric guitar,p bass and drums and harmonica. Last cd we won some awards. It was cool. Before I panned the guitar about 10 o'clock and the harp 2 o'clock. If we dub 2 guitars I will of course pan L and R. Unfortunately I think many tunes It will be 1 guitar+ solo guitar in spots. I don't know how they did it but Johnny Winter had a song "Be carful with the fool'. The guitar does not sound delayed but it's in both sides. Anyone have any tricks? GT. 1. Record it twice on two tracks 2. Record it with two mikes located some distance apart, which gives you a delayed and an original signal. Pan them differently. 3. If you put something out of phase in one channel, it will sound like it's coming from both sides instead of the center. This is hazardous, though, because it will disappear if played in mono. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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gtbuba wrote:
On May 29, 7:31=A0pm, Les Cargill wrote: Use a 10 or 20 msec delay, panned. You can use any delay, actually - it's just that 10 or 20 sec is inside the Haas limit. That's more or less like one mike on the cabinet and one mike 10 feet away. Ok I will try 10 to 20 panned out. Here is the JW guitar sound. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHxOiiqleJuI It's hard to tell on youtube, but that sounds like real stereo, actually two mikes recording the room. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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