EggHd wrote:

The "classic albums we
hear recorded and mixed on the same console" were arranged a bit differently
than albums are arranged today... they were recorded in rooms that were far and
away better than 99.9987% of the recording rooms that exist today...

So you are addressing more project studios? Many albums today are still cut in
the A level rooms.

Sadly... most of the really "A level rooms" no longer exist and the "A level rooms"
that have replaced them aren't nearly as good. There are also the 'production
issues'... by that I mean arrangements [which are way, way, way denser than they
were 30 years ago] and storage medium issues.



Consoles of that period also had far better sonic qualities than the
consoles of
today...

Many people still use the consoles of the period.

Granted... but there are maintenance issues with a whole lot of them, and there
are differences in storage mediums, and there are definitely differences in
engineering and production techniques that eclipse the tone of the desk... but yes,
there are a whole lot of the old desks kicking around.



so your mic pre point is pretty ****in moot when you really add up all
the differences between the "classic albums that were recorded and mixed on the
same console" and the Pro-sTools/Auto-Tuned-Lord-Alge/SSL-Marcussen Mastering
type "loudness above audio" stylings we are subjected to today...

**** your attitude. My point was said with respect.

My point was made from the sheep like manner in which albums have been masticated
to the point of rampant "sameness"... if that's a lack of "respect"... so ****ing
be it.
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"this is not a problem"

Sadly... most of the really "A level rooms" no longer exist and the "A level
rooms"
that have replaced them aren't nearly as good.

And more true outside the big cities that some of us live in.

if that's a lack of "respect"... so ****ing
be it.

I may have mistakenly read the comment at me not the sate of the biz.

My comment was based on some posters on RAP who, on one hand talk about the
great sound of the old records and on the other talk about the differences in
mic pres on a given source.

This isn't that I don't see why all of the companies making mic pres and
channel strips have been able to move units. There are many more high end
project studios than there used to be. More people understand that to get the
balls of what they want to hear, you may not be able to get that with your low
end console.

On the other hand, if I go to Cello and track on their nice old Neve, I won't
be reaching for outboard pres. But that's me.


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