[FedUp]

Dick,

Thanks for your explanations. I am not that familiar with the
technical aspects of stereo speakers except for primitive experiments
swapping cheap speakers in various cabinets over the years.

I don't want a harsh, dead sounding speaker sound, which from what you
are telling me and another post on this thread is telling me that the
Celestion is not optimum for my application (i.e. home stereo
speakers).

A few of my friends and I have various old speaker cabinets lying
around with blown out speakers, so building something that sounds good
may not ever be necessary. I have EPI speakers that have radio shack
woofers after the woofers rotted out and I was looking for some cheap
speakers.
I did replace one EPI tweeter with a fairly good tweeter from a
speaker store that has gone out of business many years ago. I only see
mail order now, which
is probably cheaper, anyway.... The Radio Shack woofers don't get that
low freq. (can't remember the model no.), but they sound ok...
The Atoms sound much better, but the EPIs blow the doors off the Atoms
as far as volume goes, obviously, and the EPI original tweeter that
still
works is outstanding and so is the replacement tweeter in the second
speaker. So, overall the EPIs are probably even in "listening
pleasure" to the
Atoms, but the Atoms have a quality you can't get with the EPIs - the
"spatial separation".

I can possibly go with another 10" woofer at some point that is higher
quality than an inexpensive Celestion - in other words,
might be worth saving my money for. This might be overkill for what I
have in mind -
it really is just for basement recording of various musicians and
myself - it is not for any professional recording applications, though
with the Olympus LS-10,
you can get really great recordings, if done carefully. My Fostex
VF-08 is dated, but has a nice punchy sound - especially on the bass
side, that I can't
get with the Olympus. It is true that I would love to have speakers
that get a deep bass sound - where when I record a bass guitar, you
can hear it half-way
realistically, instead of a minature version of a bass guitar. It
really is a matter of considering what is the "best bang for the
buck".

When you boil down all this, it might even make sense to just go out
and get some decent speakers with the drivers already installed and
everything working
ok, if I am willing to spend the bucks to get a sound that is much
better than the Atoms, which of course, are the bargain speakers of
the century. I had one
stereo store tell me that I would have to spend five times as much to
get something truly better sounding, except for volume and bass, of
course, which no
tiny speaker can really excel at.
I have a friend who has the Mackie Studio powered monitors - I think
it was close to a grand for the pair. Many other choices. was
intrigued with the
Celstion idea, due to the cheapness and having the old blown-out
speaker cabinets lying around.

Now, if you want to hear what one great speaker sounds like, check out

http://www.youtube.com/entfred

Click on Bussard plays a 78 from his record collection.
I tried panning to the speaker in the corner- altec lansing cabinet
with two 15" woofers, I believe, and other drivers in there, too. Joe
paid quite a bit decades
ago for this mono speaker cabinet and I was blown away when I first
heard this speaker cabinet. That is what I would want the most -
something huge like
that!

The only other big "home stereo" speaker I remember hearing (not
including stereo stores or the old hi-fi shows...) was a Klipsch that
was several feet high.

--- Entfred

On Sep 23, 9:15=A0pm, Dick Pierce wrote:
FedUp wrote:

=A0 Would an Eminence Alpha 10A speaker be ok to use as a
=A0 budget woofer in a 2 way speaker cabinet?

No, for a variety of reasons.


But describe, in more detail, what you want your system to be
like, because tHAT will determine the selection of woofers.