hi guys,

i'm getting into the idea of sending digital sound stems out of the
computer to mix in a small format analog console.

then when i heard the 3d audio ad-cd comparison cd set, i noticed the
manley slam tracks sounded way better when the tube circuitry was
engaged, instead of straight to the converter.

so tubes + small format mixer= tl audio.

anyway, the manley converter with tubes "jumped out" as being "way
more appealing" than the rest on most of the tracks. but when
listening to the tube-bypassed versions of the slam tracks, the mojo
went away!

so i'm guessing the tubes can really help "fill in the cracks" on a
digital recording. so that brings me to the tl-audio. (the manley
16x2 is too much money for me right now, and i don't have 16 top grade
converters to feed it anyway).

i'm kind of rootin' for this tl-audio piece. but brutal honesty is
always welcome too. (i think "sounds like ass" is my favorite
pejorative gear description i've seen floating around recently!).

important point: it's for rap/r&b, not "purist classical" if that
makes a difference.

so tubes + small format mixer= tl audio.

anyway, the manley converter with tubes "jumped out" as being "way
more appealing" than the rest on most of the tracks. but when
listening to the tube-bypassed versions of the slam tracks, the mojo
went away!

I would say that assuming the TLAudio sounds like the Manley would be
fallacious reasoning. There's a lot more than simply tubes in the Manley
design. Then again the TL may possibly sound exactly like the Manley, but don't
think that the mere existence of tubes in circuit is remotely any guarantee of
that.


Scott Fraser

thanks mike,
hopefully this will be on display at fall aes. renting might be a
tough find on this piece. maybe i can find a project studio somewhere
at some point and book a few hours to do some mixing.

(Mike Rivers) wrote in message news:znr1058616987k@trad...
In article writes:

so i'm guessing the tubes can really help "fill in the cracks" on a
digital recording.

That's a good guess, but there's no technical basis for it. If you
like it, however, spend the money. I'd suggest renting first, and
buying if you REALLY like it in your own projects and in your own
studio.

i wonder what the tube gain stage is in the slam compared to manley's
other devices. maybe something as simple as running through the di's
on their dual mic pre would do it (i don't know if the mic pre has
di's). anyway, what a delightful sheen that thing puts out!

Scott Dorsey wrote:

xy wrote:

anyway, the manley converter with tubes "jumped out" as being "way
more appealing" than the rest on most of the tracks. but when
listening to the tube-bypassed versions of the slam tracks, the mojo
went away!

so i'm guessing the tubes can really help "fill in the cracks" on a
digital recording. so that brings me to the tl-audio. (the manley
16x2 is too much money for me right now, and i don't have 16 top grade
converters to feed it anyway).


No, the tube stage in the Manley SLAM can help fill in the cracks.
That doesn't mean any other device is going to do the same thing, just
because it happens to have tubes.
--scott

Yeah.....or one could get a Speck Xtramix, and run it through
a PAIA TubeHead.
D'oh, I have both of these...

xy wrote:
i wonder what the tube gain stage is in the slam compared to manley's
other devices. maybe something as simple as running through the di's
on their dual mic pre would do it (i don't know if the mic pre has
di's). anyway, what a delightful sheen that thing puts out!

Well, in fact, all the gain stages in the SLAM are tube stages, so you
are going through an awful lot of stuff in there, including a few
transformers.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."