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hello
im looking for some advice to improve my recoding chain
i have a se electronics gemini 2 mike, TL audio 5050 valve comp/mic
amp, a behringer 1622fx, with a g5-8 core Mac Pro running cubase 4.1

Because of the latency issue with cubase i cant monitor the vocal with
effects because of the delay so i have to send the mike signal into
the mixer bus it out and monitor the vocal from the mixer.i feel like
having a nice mike into a valve comp then into a cheap mixer i am
losing something.i really dont want to have to go into the mixer at
all.does anyone have a workaround or a better method.????


thanks for any advice

[Anahata]

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:17:24 -0700, nottyculture wrote:

hello
im looking for some advice to improve my recoding chain i have a se
electronics gemini 2 mike, TL audio 5050 valve comp/mic amp, a behringer
1622fx, with a g5-8 core Mac Pro running cubase 4.1

Because of the latency issue with cubase i cant monitor the vocal with
effects because of the delay so i have to send the mike signal into the
mixer bus it out and monitor the vocal from the mixer.i feel like having
a nice mike into a valve comp then into a cheap mixer i am losing
something.i really dont want to have to go into the mixer at all.does
anyone have a workaround or a better method.????

What exactly is wrong with the sound though the mixer?

Anyway, you can take the mixer out of the recording chain with a Y cable
from the mic pre/comp, one branch to the Mac and the other to the
monitoring system.

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[Laurence Payne[_2_]]

On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:17:24 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

im looking for some advice to improve my recoding chain
i have a se electronics gemini 2 mike, TL audio 5050 valve comp/mic
amp, a behringer 1622fx, with a g5-8 core Mac Pro running cubase 4.1

Because of the latency issue with cubase i cant monitor the vocal with
effects because of the delay so i have to send the mike signal into
the mixer bus it out and monitor the vocal from the mixer.i feel like
having a nice mike into a valve comp then into a cheap mixer i am
losing something.i really dont want to have to go into the mixer at
all.does anyone have a workaround or a better method.????

You don't mention what sound card you're using. I don't know Macs,
but on a PC there's a huge ramge of affordable interfaces that easily
achieve latency of a few ms. Admittedly, some people in some
circumstances find even this unacceptable for input monitoring. If
this is your position, you'll have to monitor externally.

It's no big trick to split the signal from your preamp to feed both
the computer directly and the mixer. Or feed just the computer, use
Direct Monitor from Cubase to feed a clean signal to the mixer where
you can add some effects - I assume you want some reverb to enhance
the recording experience for a singer?

But check carefully whether hooking up through the Behringer DOES
actually degrade the input. You've dirtied the signal up with a valve
preamp, I rather doubt the mixer will make the slightest difference.

[Scott Dorsey]

In article ,
anahata wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:17:24 -0700, nottyculture wrote:

hello
im looking for some advice to improve my recoding chain i have a se
electronics gemini 2 mike, TL audio 5050 valve comp/mic amp, a behringer
1622fx, with a g5-8 core Mac Pro running cubase 4.1

Because of the latency issue with cubase i cant monitor the vocal with
effects because of the delay so i have to send the mike signal into the
mixer bus it out and monitor the vocal from the mixer.i feel like having
a nice mike into a valve comp then into a cheap mixer i am losing
something.i really dont want to have to go into the mixer at all.does
anyone have a workaround or a better method.????

What exactly is wrong with the sound though the mixer?

Anyway, you can take the mixer out of the recording chain with a Y cable
from the mic pre/comp, one branch to the Mac and the other to the
monitoring system.

Agreed. If I had to upgrade this chain, though, the first thing I'd do
would be to dump the mike.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Mike Rivers]

wrote:

Because of the latency issue with cubase i cant monitor the vocal with
effects because of the delay so i have to send the mike signal into
the mixer bus it out and monitor the vocal from the mixer.i feel like
having a nice mike into a valve comp then into a cheap mixer i am
losing something.

The mixer needn't be part of the recording chain. You can split the
output of the compressor so that it goes both to the sound card and to
the mixer. If you want to hear your voice with reverb, you can use an
outboard (hardware) reverb unit with the mixer. It'll go to your
headphones or control room speakers but it won't be recorded. You can
bring the output of your sound card into the mixer, too, so you can hear
the track(s) you're playing to.

I have an article in the can at Recording Magazine about this kind of
setup, but I have no idea when it will be published. Don't hold your
breath. Just get a mixer and experiment.

Of course if you really want to improve your recording chain, you might
look at a different mic, and since you didn't say what you were using
for a sound card, I assume that's nothing special.

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