What about your total lack of balls in refusing to give your real name
and provide examples of your "work"? You are a giant ****ing pussy.


Again, that's an irrelevant strawman.

It's neither irrelevant, nor a strawman, you ****ing moron. This list
is for professionals, which means we get paid for our audio labors.

All the folks you denigrate on this list have their names and work out
there for scrutiny. Identify yourself, and provide examples of your
work, as we have.

Or go away as the cowardly, spineless piece of **** you seem to be.
Pussy.

Chevdo wrote:


Sorry Ty, I'm well aware of the bullying that you just described that is
accepted by most on this group. I've received such abuse nearly every
time I've posted here, and I'm sure my first post to this group occurred
long before
yours did.

Not ****ing likely.

Just because I don't stick around here to join the group of
bullying troll cronies doesn't mean I'm new here. Perhaps you should
check Googlegroups archives

If you do, you'll find that Chev only posts when school's out. You can make
of that what you will.

In article .com,
says...


What about your total lack of balls in refusing to give your real name
and provide examples of your "work"? You are a giant ****ing pussy.


Again, that's an irrelevant strawman.

It's neither irrelevant, nor a strawman, you ****ing moron. This list
is for professionals, which means we get paid for our audio labors.

All the folks you denigrate on this list have their names and work out
there for scrutiny. Identify yourself, and provide examples of your
work, as we have.


Fine, and if we were discussing each other's work maybe your request would be
reasonable, but we aren't and it isn't. You can either believe me when I say I
have a certain amount of experience, or you can choose to not believe me.
Either way, I don't give a ****. And I'm not particularly interested in
anyone's identity or work here, so why should I care about your pathetic whine?
I'm just glad that I'm eons more mature and effective than you ever will be,
but the small consolation is that if you really are a geezer you'll be dead
soon, which is something that can't happen soon enough. I've already
demonstrated with my posting that I'm vastly superior to the likes of you.
Now, why don't you carry on with your sputtering and fuming and find some typos
in this paragraph to make yourself feel better about being a lifelong loser.
Like JC, I'm giving you the last word because I have nothing more to say on the
topic and patronizing your woefully arrested development is a complete waste of
my time.

"Chevdo" wrote in message
news:Fbsmg.66221$A8.52325@clgrps12...
In article ,
says...


"Chevdo" wrote in message
news:6Ommg.81908$771.64744@edtnps89...
In article ,
says...


"Romeo Rondeau" wrote in message
igy.com...
What about your total lack of balls in refusing to give your real
name
and provide examples of your "work"? You are a giant ****ing pussy.


Again, that's an irrelevant strawman.

Can't you at least provide a link to something that you've recorded,
or
produced, or played on? You certainly don't have to give your name to
do
that, do you?

You can rest assured he'll NEVER post a sample of ANY audio he's worked
on
,
and he'll use the irrelevancy card as an excuse.



Here's an idea, why don't each of you pretend you just listened to
something I
made, then write out and post all the insults you were planning to if
you
really had listened to something I had made. It'll be quicker that way
and
won't waste as much time. I've already mentioned some of my influences,
so
just imagine it to be an amalgamation of those, except really bad and
deserving
of the insults you're itching to unleash.

Hearing something you've produced would at least provide some idea of your
level of skill, and if you really know what you're talking about then your
recordings should bear the fruit of that knowledge. I'm certainly not
waiting to rip anything you've done apart. I'd try to be as fair as
possible. Obviously you're concerned about unfair criticism.



My skill is not at issue here. Your desire to hear my stuff could ONLY be
motivated by a desire to insult it after you've heard it, and you want to
make
sure that I'm not someone famous or important in which case you'd want to
suck
up to me after hearing it, rather than insult me. You obviously don't
care at
all about the topic you started, since you'd rather obsess over me and
what I'm
all about rather than discussing the topic. Perhaps that's because we've
all
said all we have to say about the topic but you're not satisfied until you
get
the last word? Well, by all means, take the last word, because I'm not
going
to respond unless I've got something more to say about the topic, and I
can't
think of anything I haven't repeated a half-dozen times. If you ever
figure
out that you are entirely motivated by a need to protect your ego from
bruising, you too might realize how pointless your request is, and maybe,
just
maybe, if you try REALLY hard, you MIGHT be able to find your motivation
from
something else.

If you're going to tell professionals how to do their job, you should at
least know what you're talking about. After all, that's why people go to
studios in the first place; because they want someone who knows what the
**** they're talking about. If you don't **** about audio then why should
anyone care what you've got to say? If you do claim to know anything about
audio, prove it. Otherwise, you're just making excuses.

Chevdo wrote:

Fine, and if we were discussing each other's work maybe your request would be
reasonable, but we aren't and it isn't.

You have repeatedly denigrated our skills, knowledge and product we
produce. so it's an entirely relevant and reasonable request.

You can either believe me when I say I
have a certain amount of experience, or you can choose to not believe me.

We believe you have very little real-world experience, as you have so
stated. Everyone's very impressed you made 12 records for yourself (and
two for your imaginary friend) in your basement or spare room. It's a
virtual explosion of masturbatory self-indulgence, for which you should
be congratulated. However this is a group for professionals, which you
aren't. So **** off.

Either way, I don't give a ****. And I'm not particularly interested in
anyone's identity or work here, so why should I care about your pathetic whine?

Then why insult our work, and us, by name? And then have the
unmitigated gall to continue to hide behind usenet anonymity. You're a
chicken**** coward.

I'm just glad that I'm eons more mature and effective than you ever will be,
but the small consolation is that if you really are a geezer you'll be dead
soon, which is something that can't happen soon enough. I've already
demonstrated with my posting that I'm vastly superior to the likes of you.
Now, why don't you carry on with your sputtering and fuming and find some typos
in this paragraph to make yourself feel better about being a lifelong loser.
Like JC, I'm giving you the last word because I have nothing more to say on the
topic and patronizing your woefully arrested development is a complete waste of
my time.

Since I'm about 20 years older than you (based on your staement that
you're 35), it's reasonable to assume I'll die sooner. Big ****ing
deal. You'll get there, too, asswipe. At least I won't go my grave as
a snivelling, cowardly piece of **** who's too afraid to tell anyone
his real name, or show his "work" in a professional forum.

You have effectively demonstrated your superiority at cowardly
behavior, and baseless ad hominem attacks. Unless and until you
miraculously grow a pair, and give us your real name and stand behind
your work (that's what PROs do), get the **** out of here.
This is a forum for audio professionals, not basement wannabees.

Find a forum for whiny, quivering eunuchs. You'll fit right in.

In article ,
says...


If you're going to tell professionals how to do their job,

How many times do I have to tell you that if you want to make recordings with
little or no compression, I have no desire whatsoever to stop you from doing
that whether you consider yourself to be 'professional' or not? Perhaps you
have read too many comic books because you've degenerated into pretending
that you're rebelling against some oppressive force that I supposedly
represent. I haven't told anyone how to 'do their job'. I've told people why
a certain job is done a certain way by MOST professionals, and for some reason,
you're too much of a baby to accept that reality. So, you project the poor
potty-training experience from your youth onto me. I'm not your father, you
can go potty the way you want to, and you can make your recordings the way you
want to. I am not going to spank you if you do it wrong. I have no influence
over you whatsoever, and you have no influence over me whatsoever and the
sooner you realize that the sooner you'll stop wasting my time. But I'm not
going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen, ever.

If you do claim to know anything about
audio, prove it. Otherwise, you're just making excuses.

You've got a point there, I should never have wasted my time trying to reason
with idiots. I should've just pointed out that most professionals use a lot of
compression, and if you don't do it that way, you're certainly not doing it the
way most professionals do. You see moron, I don't have to be a dentist to be
able to tell someone who wants to do some dentistry that most dentists use
special drills for teeth rather than the black & decker you've got in your
basement for home-repairs. That's exactly what you're analogous to, a dentist
who wants to use a black & decker drill to drill out some cavities, and if I
tell you you're an idiot for wanting to use a black & decker drill nstead of a
dentistry drill, and that my opinion on that is based on the fact that most
dentists use dentistry drills, not black & decker drills, you'd insist that my
opinion is worthless because I'm not a dentist. If you were a plumber and
wanted to use cardboard pipes instead of metal ones, and I told you that
plumbers use metal pipes, not cardboard ones, you'd tell me that I'd have to be
a plumber to know whether plumbing should be done with cardboard pipes or metal
ones.

That's what's so pathetic about your carrying on like this. I could be nothing
but a music listener and I'd still be making a valid point. The fact that I
happen to master recordings and use compressors myself is totally irrelevent.
My opinion would be just as valid if it were based on an observation, as
nothing but a music consumer, that I know that the overwhelming majority of
engineers are turning out heavily-compressed recordings as it would be valid if
I were to state that as someone who washes his hands frequently, I know that
the overwhelming majority of plumbers use metal pipes and not cardboard ones.

And unless you can get that through your thick head, you'll probably keep
trying to waste my time here...

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:41:55 -0400, Chevdo wrote
(in article 7Pkmg.65423$A8.42421@clgrps12):

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 02:08:52 -0400, Daniel Fox wrote
(in article .com):


Chevdo wrote:

Here's the deal Chevdo. This group has been around a long time with many of
the same members.

You come in the door with a kiss my ass attitude and not much else.

We've seen it before. It happens once or twice a year. Here's how it ends.

1. You flame out, call everyone an asshole and leave. We don't care.

2. You settle down, put your dick in your back pocket and adopt some
manners
and stick around.



Sorry Ty, I'm well aware of the bullying that you just described that is
accepted by most on this group. I've received such abuse nearly every time
I've posted here, and I'm sure my first post to this group occurred long
before
yours did. Just because I don't stick around here to join the group of
bullying troll cronies doesn't mean I'm new here. Perhaps you should check
Googlegroups archives before making remarks like these that reveal you to be
a
fool and a pathetic hanger-on who 'put his dick back in his pocket' long ago
and settled down to take his rightful place among the losers.

While you are, if fact, "sorry" and poorly socialized, the point here is to
stop shoving your ass in everyone's face in this forum. You probably have
been on the planet long enough with your "**** you" behavior to have been
told this more than once, but it bears repeating.

In this newsgroup, when you say stupid ****, people will call you on it.

About the "bullying troll cronies" to which you refer. Stop making personal
insults and you'll go a lot farther. Your personal insults directed at me
really have no effect except to define your character or lack thereof.

Again, settle down, stop embarrassing yourself, if possible, or blow.

Regards,

Ty Ford





-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

In article cSkmg.65425$A8.59679@clgrps12, Chevdo wrote:
Ok, then explain how having my hearing checked would have any bearing on the
theory offered by the hearing doctor. In fact, I think the hearing doctor's
theory is compatible and supports my theory, but right now I'd like to see you
reconcile the non-sequitor you just insinuated. Of course I know you won't,
since that's impossible, and your reply will be some more of the best ad
hominem you can muster... gee, can't wait...

Well, first thing is I'd be curious to know if you have severe recruitment,
because it might explain some of the things you have said about dynamics.

Since you have declined my offer of a beer in Vancouver, come down to the
AES show in San Francisco and I'll buy you one there, and we can all take
advantage of the free ear testing from House.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

"Ty Ford" wrote ...
In this newsgroup, when you say stupid ****, people
will call you on it.

Assuming they haven't already just killfiled you as an
ignorant waste of time and bandwidth.

"Chevdo" wrote in message
news:hiumg.72142$S61.8039@edtnps90...
In article ,
says...


If you're going to tell professionals how to do their job,

How many times do I have to tell you that if you want to make recordings
with
little or no compression, I have no desire whatsoever to stop you from
doing
that whether you consider yourself to be 'professional' or not? Perhaps
you
have read too many comic books because you've degenerated into pretending
that you're rebelling against some oppressive force that I supposedly
represent. I haven't told anyone how to 'do their job'.

First off, no one said anything about compression. We've been talking about
hypercompression. Are you just now tuning in?

Second off, if you're not suggesting that many professionals on this forum
stop undercompressing (performing their job wrong) then what are you
suggesting? I've been reading your posts and maybe you aren't aware of it
but that's how your comments come across.

I've told people why
a certain job is done a certain way by MOST professionals, and for some
reason,
you won't accept that reality. So, you project the poor
potty-training experience from your youth onto me. I'm not your father,
you
can go potty the way you want to, and you can make your recordings the way
you
want to. I am not going to spank you if you do it wrong. I have no
influence
over you whatsoever, and you have no influence over me whatsoever and the
sooner you realize that the sooner you'll stop wasting my time. But I'm
not
going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen, ever.

LIKE I SAID, unless you claim to know something about pro recording, your
opinion about whether a method is "poor" or not isn't worth a **** as far as
I'm concerned.

If you do claim to know anything about
audio, prove it. Otherwise, you're just making excuses.

You've got a point there, I should never have wasted my time trying to
reason
with idiots. I should've just pointed out that most professionals use a
lot of
compression, and if you don't do it that way, you're certainly not doing
it the
way most professionals do. You see moron, I don't have to be a dentist to
be
able to tell someone who wants to do some dentistry that most dentists use
special drills for teeth rather than the black & decker you've got in your
basement for home-repairs.

No, but you'd need to know something about dentistry if you were going to
differentiate between a dentist who knows what he's doing and one that
doesn't, and that includes knowing whether using X equipment is even
appropriate to begin with.

That's exactly what you're analogous to, a dentist
who wants to use a black & decker drill to drill out some cavities, and if
I
tell you you're an idiot for wanting to use a black & decker drill nstead
of a
dentistry drill, and that my opinion on that is based on the fact that
most
dentists use dentistry drills, not black & decker drills, you'd insist
that my
opinion is worthless because I'm not a dentist.

First off, you'd need to prove that "most" _good_ dentists are using drill
X. Then you'd need to show *why* it's a good thing just because "most"
dentists do it, but in order to do so you'd need to know something about
dentistry to demonstrate it. If "most" of your friends jumped off a cliff,
would you join them? Even if "most" do something, that's independent of
whether it's a good thing.

If you were a plumber and
wanted to use cardboard pipes instead of metal ones, and I told you that
plumbers use metal pipes, not cardboard ones, you'd tell me that I'd have
to be
a plumber to know whether plumbing should be done with cardboard pipes or
metal
ones.

Already answered.

That's what's so pathetic about your carrying on like this. I could be
nothing
but a music listener and I'd still be making a valid point. The fact that
I
happen to master recordings and use compressors myself is totally
irrelevent.

Following the logic of your claim, if most peoples opinion about "recording"
were as valid as that of a professional, they wouldn't need them at all;
they could just record their own ****ing album and cut out the middleman
altogether. That's why your proposition is utter ****.

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:28:45 GMT, "J.C. Scott"
wrote:

Following the logic of your claim, if most peoples opinion about "recording"
were as valid as that of a professional, they wouldn't need them at all;
they could just record their own ****ing album and cut out the middleman
altogether.

Actually, with today's affordable tools, they could. When someone
posts a "what do you think of my first attempt?" to
alt.music.home-studio the technical quality is often most acceptable.
The big problem is more likely to be the musical content.

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:00:55 -0400, Richard Crowley wrote
(in article ):

"Ty Ford" wrote ...
In this newsgroup, when you say stupid ****, people
will call you on it.

Assuming they haven't already just killfiled you as an
ignorant waste of time and bandwidth.

Well there is that. Glad to see you haven't put me there Richard.

Regards,

Ty

-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

Richard Crowley wrote:
"Ty Ford" wrote ...
In this newsgroup, when you say stupid ****, people
will call you on it.

Assuming they haven't already just killfiled you as an
ignorant waste of time and bandwidth.



Thunderous Applause for a Very Sensible Approach
clap,clap.cacccccclllllaallapppappallalppaplclapp alcaplapclpalcl
Sorry, I used heavy compression on the above applause track

Gentlemen, Ladies, sundery furry creatures gathered together in a
cave...farbeit for me to be the voice of reason in the wilderness, but
must we continue to feed the troll?

Must the troll be kept content. Indeed should it be kept at all, like a
mistress you can no longer support...afraid to break the link for fear
that she will run to your wife with a black book of your sins... Her
conversion will not be counted in Heaven and her shunning is just and
right (assuming you made the last payment on her BeMeWr).

Nay, treat him like a monkey on your back that you can no longer
support...like a rabid dog barking at the moon...let the bitch go!

I have gratefully stopped receiving Chevdo's drivel in this
newsgroup...after researching his previous rants, I have concluded that
this is an ascerbic personality that will not add an iota of positive
energy in my life...his inane and argumentative nonsense is muted
(maybe I hypercompressed it into oblivion you say? But no...I simply
and innocently ignore his ever shifting paradigms and constantly
wavering (though equally brainwaveless) Strawmen).

Praise the Keyboard, I am not controlled by my kneejerk "BULL****"
button.

Likewise, if you can control yourselves and you help the world to
control Chevdo (which by the way is a tasty Asian Treat that goes great
with Peanut Butter).

I humbly submit and readily admit that I have much to learn (though I
honestly thought the "P" in RAP stood for Production, not Professional
and so I'm slightly put off by Geezers "**** off" on those terms...can
we accept polite amateurs who honestly care about proper audio
production techniques?). But there is an unfortunate loss in factual
content concurrent with any increase in hyperexpletive ejaculations
being employed in responses to "The Troll".

Frankly, while I do find alot of what is discussed in this forum
cryptic at times, I have never been abused when I asked for more
information or some clarification; and while I may not have understood
the "P" correctly, the level of decency afforded me has always been of
a very "P"rofessional nature.

All this to say...if everyone who is currently conversing with Chevdo
in this and other threads on RAP feel he is not being sincere in his
comments, nor is he adding to the information value of what is being
discussed, then why bother wasting the bandwidth trying to convert the
poor sod...if it some missionary zeal, some misplaced pity? What is it
that makes us have to watch the trainwreck that is "Chevdo's
Experience".

Not trying to police anything or anybody but, if the concensus is
general then let's all agree that Chevdo is a sonically challenged
****wit; mark and "X" in this thread to register our vote;
and...thankfully...move on.

One word: Shunning.

'nuff said [really], CS

Cyberserf wrote:

I humbly submit and readily admit that I have much to learn (though I
honestly thought the "P" in RAP stood for Production, not Professional
and so I'm slightly put off by Geezers "**** off" on those terms...can
we accept polite amateurs who honestly care about proper audio
production techniques?).

No problem there. I am myself a pro only by a liberal application of
that particular appellation. When I do audio, I mostly get paid for
it, but I am a civil servant by day and not likely to give that up,
given my age & looming retirement.


But there is an unfortunate loss in factual
content concurrent with any increase in hyperexpletive ejaculations
being employed in responses to "The Troll".


Hyperexpletive ejaculations??? I thought that "a virtual explosion of
masturbatory self-indulgence" and "whiny, quivering eunuchs" were
fairly nice turns of phrase.

Besides, he really hasn't been back since I finally got PO'd at him.
(knock on wood) Chevdo's absence will increase the signal-to-noise
ratio around here.


Regards.
-glenn

"geezer" wrote in message...

Chevdo's absence will increase the signal-to-noise
ratio around here.

Let me know when it's safe to remove him from my bozo-bin.

DM

Translation: OH illustrious rec.audio.pro cronies, I worship and grovel at your
feet! I will do your bidding and prattle on and on about whatever seems to
concern you, long after you've adopted other concerns, but don't worry, I'll be
right there to back you up as the johnny-come-lately I am, as soon as I figure
out that I'm beating a fully-decomposed horse. I am so full of 'positive
energy' and I'm positively gushing with unconditional love for my heros. My
only goal in life is to someday be considered one of the cronies. My fat ugly
wife keeps wondering why I keep yelling "Dorsey!! ooooh Dorsey!! OH Krueger,
Oh Rivers.. oh oh oh aaahhh!" whenever I pork her slimy hole, but who cares,
it's genuise positive energy!

In article .com,
says...

Richard Crowley wrote:
"Ty Ford" wrote ...
In this newsgroup, when you say stupid ****, people
will call you on it.

Assuming they haven't already just killfiled you as an
ignorant waste of time and bandwidth.



Thunderous Applause for a Very Sensible Approach
clap,clap.cacccccclllllaallapppappallalppaplclap palcaplapclpalcl
Sorry, I used heavy compression on the above applause track

Gentlemen, Ladies, sundery furry creatures gathered together in a
cave...farbeit for me to be the voice of reason in the wilderness, but
must we continue to feed the troll?

Must the troll be kept content. Indeed should it be kept at all, like a
mistress you can no longer support...afraid to break the link for fear
that she will run to your wife with a black book of your sins... Her
conversion will not be counted in Heaven and her shunning is just and
right (assuming you made the last payment on her BeMeWr).

Nay, treat him like a monkey on your back that you can no longer
support...like a rabid dog barking at the moon...let the bitch go!

I have gratefully stopped receiving Chevdo's drivel in this
newsgroup...after researching his previous rants, I have concluded that
this is an ascerbic personality that will not add an iota of positive
energy in my life...his inane and argumentative nonsense is muted
(maybe I hypercompressed it into oblivion you say? But no...I simply
and innocently ignore his ever shifting paradigms and constantly
wavering (though equally brainwaveless) Strawmen).

Praise the Keyboard, I am not controlled by my kneejerk "BULL****"
button.

Likewise, if you can control yourselves and you help the world to
control Chevdo (which by the way is a tasty Asian Treat that goes great
with Peanut Butter).

I humbly submit and readily admit that I have much to learn (though I
honestly thought the "P" in RAP stood for Production, not Professional
and so I'm slightly put off by Geezers "**** off" on those terms...can
we accept polite amateurs who honestly care about proper audio
production techniques?). But there is an unfortunate loss in factual
content concurrent with any increase in hyperexpletive ejaculations
being employed in responses to "The Troll".

Frankly, while I do find alot of what is discussed in this forum
cryptic at times, I have never been abused when I asked for more
information or some clarification; and while I may not have understood
the "P" correctly, the level of decency afforded me has always been of
a very "P"rofessional nature.

All this to say...if everyone who is currently conversing with Chevdo
in this and other threads on RAP feel he is not being sincere in his
comments, nor is he adding to the information value of what is being
discussed, then why bother wasting the bandwidth trying to convert the
poor sod...if it some missionary zeal, some misplaced pity? What is it
that makes us have to watch the trainwreck that is "Chevdo's
Experience".

Not trying to police anything or anybody but, if the concensus is
general then let's all agree that Chevdo is a sonically challenged
****wit; mark and "X" in this thread to register our vote;
and...thankfully...move on.

One word: Shunning.

'nuff said [really], CS

In article . com,
says...


So, get the **** off this newsgroup you moronic wannabee piece of ****.



Make me, gramps

Once again showing yourself to be a spineless, useless eunuch. If you
had the courage of your convictions, you'd make yourself known, and
provide examples of your work.

Calling me gramps is right on the money, btw, as I have 2 grandkids.
It's about the only accurate thing you've ever said. I'll still be
happy to kick your ****ing ass, if you ever had the guts to present
yourself.

Go back your mother's basement, work on your next "masterpiece", and
leave us the **** alone, you festering pustule.

Chevdo wrote:
In article . com,
says...


So, get the **** off this newsgroup you moronic wannabee piece of ****.



Make me, gramps