Romeo Rondeau wrote:

Mike, you really don't know what you're talking about here, you were using a
standard TV, we're talking about the new digital TV's, BIG difference.

We are? I was responding to someone who said he hooked his computer up
to a "TV set" and it didn't have good enough resolution to read text
easily. It may have been capable of receiving digital transmission, but
still the screen resolution wasn't sufficient for computer use.

Sheesh... get some new technology :-)

I don't even watch TV enough to justify having cable. What am I going
to do with a digital TV? It's probalby not even good enough to hook up
to a computer.

I'm still using that Pentium II in the studio, too.

We are? I was responding to someone who said he hooked his computer up
to a "TV set" and it didn't have good enough resolution to read text
easily. It may have been capable of receiving digital transmission, but
still the screen resolution wasn't sufficient for computer use.

I don't think you understood what the topic was all about, Mike. Regular TV
doesn't have enough resolution for computer use, that's a given. They are
talking about using HD type TV's, which do work just fine if you have all of
your ducks in a row. They will playback a DVD rather nicely as well.


Sheesh... get some new technology :-)

I don't even watch TV enough to justify having cable. What am I going
to do with a digital TV? It's probalby not even good enough to hook up
to a computer.

Yes, it is... if you buy the right one and have the right kind of video
card, and set it up correctly. AAMOF, most of them have various PC inputs
for that very purpose. You should get out more often :-)


I'm still using that Pentium II in the studio, too.

I rest my case :-) You'd be amazed at the things that can be done now, Mike.
*grin*

Romeo Rondeau wrote:

I don't think you understood what the topic was all about, Mike. Regular TV
doesn't have enough resolution for computer use, that's a given. They are
talking about using HD type TV's, which do work just fine if you have all of
your ducks in a row. They will playback a DVD rather nicely as well.

It sounds like the original poster hooked his computer up to one that
didn't work well in the resolution department. I was just confirming
that this happens. Perhaps he's the one who doesn't understand what he
needs.

What am I going
to do with a digital TV? It's probalby not even good enough to hook up
to a computer.

Yes, it is... if you buy the right one and have the right kind of video
card, and set it up correctly. AAMOF, most of them have various PC inputs
for that very purpose. You should get out more often :-)

That's a lot of "ifs" for an audio guy like me. Last week, I saw that
Micro Center had a 15" LCD monitor on sale for $100 so I bought one. It
works fine on my Mackie HDR, and also on a computer. That's as much as
I know.

On 8 Jun 2006 15:41:46 -0700, "Mike Rivers"
wrote:


That's a lot of "ifs" for an audio guy like me. Last week, I saw that
Micro Center had a 15" LCD monitor on sale for $100 so I bought one. It
works fine on my Mackie HDR, and also on a computer. That's as much as
I know.

Fair enough. You have little interest in computers and little
knowledge of the subject. So why not keep quiet? I'd always rated
you as one of the sensible guys round here. But you're doing a chevdo
imitation on this topic.

Laurence Payne wrote:

Fair enough. You have little interest in computers and little
knowledge of the subject. So why not keep quiet? I'd always rated
you as one of the sensible guys round here. But you're doing a chevdo
imitation on this topic.

I read about someone's problem and I had a similar problem so I chimed
in with my experience . What's wrong with that? Has anyone here
actually helped the original poster? At least I assured him that he
wasn't nuts.

Besides, why would anyone expect to hook a computer up to a TV set? I
guess it's nice that it works sometimes, with some computeres, and some
TV sets, for certain displays, but it isn't as simple as buying a
computer monitor and plugging it in.

I read about someone's problem and I had a similar problem so I chimed
in with my experience . What's wrong with that? Has anyone here
actually helped the original poster? At least I assured him that he
wasn't nuts.

You didn't have a similar problem at all, though.



Besides, why would anyone expect to hook a computer up to a TV set? I
guess it's nice that it works sometimes, with some computeres, and some
TV sets, for certain displays, but it isn't as simple as buying a
computer monitor and plugging it in.

The OP needed a BIG display and was asking if the resolution of the type of
display he was asking about aould work as a DAW at the distance he was going
to be from it. He mentioned plasma and LCD. How is this like your
experience? And also just buying a monitor and plugging it in isn't as
simple as you may think, that is if picture quality and geometric purity
matter to you at all. I guess Dave and I should have taken you to Best Buy
instead of that Chinease restaurant a few years ago :-) OK, I'm teasing
you... but you really should get out more often :-)

Romeo Rondeau wrote:

The OP needed a BIG display and was asking if the resolution of the type of
display he was asking about aould work as a DAW at the distance he was going
to be from it. He mentioned plasma and LCD. How is this like your
experience?

As far as the TV set he tried, completely different. At the time I was
forced into this experiment, there were no plasma or LCD TV set,
particularly not in hotel rooms. However, the PROBLEM was exactly the
same. I had trouble reading text on the TV screens that I used, and HE
had trouble reading text on the TV screen that he tried.

When I reply to a post, I try to say a little more than just "me too"
when that's really all I have to say about the subject. I try to
explain what I agree, and that's what I did, and ALL that I did. I
didn't tell him that it would never work, I only suggested that he
needed better screen resolution.

And in fact, that's all you've suggested. The only differernece is that
you've said that this is possible in some modern TV sets. I have my
doubts, but I'm not interested enough to take a computer down to
Circuit City and ask to hook it up to a few TV sets to see what it
looks like today.

And also just buying a monitor and plugging it in isn't as
simple as you may think, that is if picture quality and geometric purity
matter to you at all.

Alternateively, I guess if I have a problem, I've never realized it.
Some people are like that with loudspeakers and microphones. I'm not
very "visually experienced." Did you notice how thick my glasses are?
g

Besides, why would anyone expect to hook a computer up to a TV set? I
guess it's nice that it works sometimes, with some computeres, and some
TV sets, for certain displays, but it isn't as simple as buying a
computer monitor and plugging it in.

I forgot about responding to this. One could expect to hook up a computer to
a TV set since most new HD sets have a port specifically for hooking up a
computer :-)

On 8 Jun 2006 16:39:55 -0700, "Mike Rivers"
wrote:

I read about someone's problem and I had a similar problem so I chimed
in with my experience . What's wrong with that? Has anyone here
actually helped the original poster? At least I assured him that he
wasn't nuts.

You told him about an experience with a crt tv set. That was as if he
asked about input levels on a digital system and you replied with
advice about the noise floor of a tape machine!

Besides, why would anyone expect to hook a computer up to a TV set? I
guess it's nice that it works sometimes, with some computeres, and some
TV sets, for certain displays, but it isn't as simple as buying a
computer monitor and plugging it in.

As he is discovering. But it was a valid question. Today's
flat-screen tv's and large computer monitors are converging. Tv's now
typically have a SVGA input, sometimes also a digital video input.
It's reasonable to assume they might be good for something!

There's a 32" LCD tv here. I just plugged in my laptop with a DV
cable. Native resolution of the tv appears to be 1360 X 768. At
this setting, the picture's fine at an appropriate viewing distance.
Contrast needs to come down a bit from the tv viewing setting.

My comment would be - for a DAW I want twice this amount of screen.
My usual setup is dual monitors, both at 1280 X 1024. I'd like to
move up from here, not down! In another year, particularly if HDTV
catches on, I think we'll be seeing bigger screens with higher
resolutions at an affordable price.

You told him about an experience with a crt tv set. That was as if he
asked about input levels on a digital system and you replied with
advice about the noise floor of a tape machine!

Which happens often in this NG! :-)