"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:07:22 -0800, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"Sandman" wrote in message
...
What do people here think of the acts of "civil disobedience" being
engaged
in not only by the Mayor of San Francisco, but San Francisco's entire
City
Hall staff in issuing marriage certificates to thousands of gay couples
who
have traveled to San Francisco to get married during past four days?


It's illegal, but about time. There is no logical reason why gays should
be
prohibited from marrying.

On this, we agree.

Of course, there is no logical reason why three gay guys could not
marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason why two men and a
woman could not marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason
why three women and one man can't marry each other. Nor is there
a logical reason why reason why Arny can't marry a goat.




----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups
---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

Yustabe said:

"dave weil" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:07:22 -0800, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"Sandman" wrote in message
...
What do people here think of the acts of "civil disobedience" being
engaged
in not only by the Mayor of San Francisco, but San Francisco's entire
City
Hall staff in issuing marriage certificates to thousands of gay couples
who
have traveled to San Francisco to get married during past four days?


It's illegal, but about time. There is no logical reason why gays should
be
prohibited from marrying.

On this, we agree.

Of course, there is no logical reason why three gay guys could not
marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason why two men and a
woman could not marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason
why three women and one man can't marry each other. Nor is there
a logical reason why reason why Arny can't marry a goat.

Well, it all seems to be an argument about semantics...ON THE SURFACE. Here is
one dictionary definition:

To unite in wedlock or matrimony; to perform the ceremony of joining, as a man
and a woman, for life; to constitute (a man and a woman) husband and wife
according to the laws or customs of the place.

Many people seem to be locking onto the "man and woman" part, which is the crux
of their argument, which is why terms such as "civil union" have appeared.
And, if it didn't mask an ulterior motive, this might be a reasonable argument.

However, there are other ways to use the words "marry" and "wed," such as "the
tarragon and the garlic are wedded together through the marination process,"
and "it was a splendid marriage of two completely different companies."

I think the important thing is for gay couples to receive all the same benefits
as straight couples, and to have the union legally recognized through some sort
of documentation. I think it's also just as important for gay people to be
treated as if such unions are normal, and that such unions should be celebrated
in ceremonies, just like straight people. Are their emotions really different
than straight people when it comes to love?

This is just one of those non-issues that continue to waste our time. It's
time to stop worrying about what other consenting adults are doing behind
closed doors, and start solving some real problems.

Boon

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Are their emotions really different
than straight people when it comes to love?


Yes




----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups
---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
...

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Are their emotions really different
than straight people when it comes to love?


Yes


How, aside from loving people with the same plumbing.



----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet
News==----
http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000
Newsgroups
---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption
=---

"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message
...

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
...

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Are their emotions really different
than straight people when it comes to love?


Yes


How, aside from loving people with the same plumbing.


Answered elsewhere.




----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups
---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

Yustabe said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Are their emotions really different
than straight people when it comes to love?


Yes

Why?

Boon

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Yustabe said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message
...
Are their emotions really different
than straight people when it comes to love?


Yes

Why?

Answered elsewhere




----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups
---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

"Marc Phillips" wrote

This is just one of those non-issues that continue to waste our time.
It's
time to stop worrying about what other consenting adults are doing behind
closed doors, and start solving some real problems.

Right on. But because Dubya not only attacked "gay marriage" in his SOTU
address, and in the Russert interview, and has been squawking like a stuck
pig about the Massachusetts Supreme Court decision, what's happening in San
Francisco represents the gay community's (and civil rights proponents')
protest to Dubya's shameless pandering to his "Christian Coalition" type of
constituency. It is Dubya's way of avoiding (distracting us from
distraction by distraction) all the other really serious issues he's
created, and which he has no articulate or rational or even honest answer
for, and which will haunt him for the next 8-9 months and which will drive
him out of office.

One gay man who recently got married in S.F. was quoted today as saying: "If
George Bush wants to turn gay marriage into a wedge issue, I'll give him a
wedgie." :-)

Jim Sanders wrote:


"Marc Phillips" wrote

This is just one of those non-issues that continue to waste our time.
It's
time to stop worrying about what other consenting adults are doing behind
closed doors, and start solving some real problems.


Absolutely. Agree 100 per cent.


Right on. But because Dubya not only attacked "gay marriage" in his SOTU
address, and in the Russert interview, and has been squawking like a stuck
pig about the Massachusetts Supreme Court decision, what's happening in San
Francisco represents the gay community's (and civil rights proponents')
protest to Dubya's shameless pandering to his "Christian Coalition" type of
constituency. It is Dubya's way of avoiding (distracting us from
distraction by distraction) all the other really serious issues he's
created, and which he has no articulate or rational or even honest answer
for, and which will haunt him for the next 8-9 months and which will drive
him out of office.


BINGO!!!!




One gay man who recently got married in S.F. was quoted today as saying: "If
George Bush wants to turn gay marriage into a wedge issue, I'll give him a
wedgie." :-)










Bruce J. Richman

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
...

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:07:22 -0800, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"Sandman" wrote in message
...
What do people here think of the acts of "civil disobedience" being
engaged
in not only by the Mayor of San Francisco, but San Francisco's entire
City
Hall staff in issuing marriage certificates to thousands of gay
couples
who
have traveled to San Francisco to get married during past four days?


It's illegal, but about time. There is no logical reason why gays
should
be
prohibited from marrying.

On this, we agree.

Of course, there is no logical reason why three gay guys could not
marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason why two men and a
woman could not marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason
why three women and one man can't marry each other. Nor is there
a logical reason why reason why Arny can't marry a goat.




As long as it's a consenting goat.


----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet
News==----
http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000
Newsgroups
---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption
=---

Of course, there is no logical reason why three gay guys could not
marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason why two men and a
woman could not marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason
why three women and one man can't marry each other. Nor is there
a logical reason why reason why Arny can't marry a goat.



There certainly is a reason why Arny can't marry a goat. He'll never find a
goat that wants him.

Of course, there is no logical reason why three gay guys could not
marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason why two men and a
woman could not marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason
why three women and one man can't marry each other. Nor is there
a logical reason why reason why Arny can't marry a goat.



There certainly is a reason why Arny can't marry a goat. He'll never find a
goat that wants him.







I'm not so sure of that. Perhaps there is a goat that out there that likes to
eat tubes and vinyl. (While listening to computer-generated music).



Bruce J. Richman

"S888Wheel" wrote in message
...

Of course, there is no logical reason why three gay guys could not
marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason why two men and a
woman could not marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason
why three women and one man can't marry each other. Nor is there
a logical reason why reason why Arny can't marry a goat.



There certainly is a reason why Arny can't marry a goat. He'll never find
a
goat that wants him.

You got the last good looking one anyway, right? :-)

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 08:50:08 -0800, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:


"S888Wheel" wrote in message
...

Of course, there is no logical reason why three gay guys could not
marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason why two men and a
woman could not marry each other. Nor is there a logical reason
why three women and one man can't marry each other. Nor is there
a logical reason why reason why Arny can't marry a goat.



There certainly is a reason why Arny can't marry a goat. He'll never find
a
goat that wants him.

You got the last good looking one anyway, right? :-)

Now *that* was a great comeback!

You got the last good looking one anyway, right? :-)

Now *that* was a great comeback!


Yeah. It was pretty good.

There certainly is a reason why Arny can't marry a goat. He'll never find
a
goat that wants him.

You got the last good looking one anyway, right? :-)

I don't find goats good looking. Do you?