http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/index.html

Why is rec.audio.opinion flooded with political crap? What the hell
does any of this have to do with audio?

Sandman wrote:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/index.html

"Nathan Stohler" wrote in message


Sandman wrote:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/index.html

Why is rec.audio.opinion flooded with political crap? What the hell
does any of this have to do with audio?

It's everything Jim Sanders and his clique knows about audio.

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:47:25 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Nathan Stohler" wrote in message


Sandman wrote:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/index.html

Why is rec.audio.opinion flooded with political crap? What the hell
does any of this have to do with audio?

It's everything Jim Sanders and his clique knows about audio.

Is this worse than your claim that you have no accomplishments?

And, when you claimed that, are you admitting that:

A. pcabx wasn't actually an accomplishment

or

B. it actually wasn't *your* accomplishment?

Which is it? A or B?

Nathan Stohler wrote in message ...
Sandman wrote:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/index.html

Why is rec.audio.opinion flooded with political crap? What the hell
does any of this have to do with audio?

I, for one, appreciate Jim's posting of these links.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

In article ,
John Atkinson wrote:
Nathan Stohler wrote in message ...
Sandman wrote:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/index.html

Why is rec.audio.opinion flooded with political crap? What the hell
does any of this have to do with audio?

I, for one, appreciate Jim's posting of these links.



LOL!


Joe

"Nathan Stohler" wrote in message
...
Why is rec.audio.opinion flooded with political crap? What the hell
does any of this have to do with audio?



First, stop top posting

Second, if you want to talk about audio, go to a
politiacal newsgroup.

Bye!




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(John Atkinson) wrote in message . com...
Nathan Stohler wrote in message ...
Sandman wrote:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/index.html

Why is rec.audio.opinion flooded with political crap? What the hell
does any of this have to do with audio?

I, for one, appreciate Jim's posting of these links.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Because it takes the focus off your tainted publication, Mr. Atkinson?

John Atkinson" wrote: in message
om...
Nathan Stohler wrote in message
...
Sandman wrote:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/index.html

Why is rec.audio.opinion flooded with political crap? What the hell
does any of this have to do with audio?

I, for one, appreciate Jim's posting of these links.

The secret's out - I'm just posting these links to distract the nutcases and
get off them JA's back. ;0)

"Sandman" wrote in message
news
John Atkinson" wrote: in message
om...
Nathan Stohler wrote in message
...
Sandman wrote:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/index.html

Why is rec.audio.opinion flooded with political crap? What the hell
does any of this have to do with audio?

I, for one, appreciate Jim's posting of these links.

The secret's out - I'm just posting these links to distract the nutcases
and
get off them JA's back. ;0)



Thanks for inspiring this link, Jim.

http://www.high-endaudio.com/RR-STEREOPHILE.html

ScottW

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

"Nathan Stohler" wrote in message
...
Why is rec.audio.opinion flooded with political crap? What the hell
does any of this have to do with audio?


First, stop top posting

Second, if you want to talk about audio, go to a
politiacal newsgroup.

Bye!

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Could you recommend a good "politiacal" newsgroup?

"Nathan Stohler" wrote in message
...

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

"Nathan Stohler" wrote in message
...
Why is rec.audio.opinion flooded with political crap? What the hell
does any of this have to do with audio?


First, stop top posting

Second, if you want to talk about audio, go to a
politiacal newsgroup.

Bye!

Could you recommend a good "politiacal" newsgroup?

alt.lies.allArnyKruegercandoiscomplainaboutspellin gsincehehasnootherargument
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you are so much like him.




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"Sandman" wrote in message
news
The secret's out - I'm just posting these links to distract the nutcases
and get off them JA's back. ;0)

Thanks for inspiring this link, Jim.
http://www.high-endaudio.com/RR-STEREOPHILE.html

I am flattered by the amount of attention Arthur Salvatore pays me. And
when Mr. Salvatore writes "There is no question that John Atkinson is a
very smart business man and nothing I know that he did was illegal," I
take that as praise. :-)

But when it comes to the case he makes on his website, even poor old
Arny Krueger could take some lessons from Mr. Salvatore whe it comes to
"data dredging." :-)

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

I am flattered by the amount of attention Arthur Salvatore pays me. And
when Mr. Salvatore writes "There is no question that John Atkinson is a
very smart business man and nothing I know that he did was illegal," I
take that as praise. :-)

But when it comes to the case he makes on his website, even poor old
Arny Krueger could take some lessons from Mr. Salvatore whe it comes to
"data dredging." :-)

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile






I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended records. We also
seem to have the same taste in turntables.

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended records.
We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same taste in
buggy whips.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"S888Wheel" wrote in message


I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended records.
We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same taste
in
buggy whips.

Arnii, didn't I just read a while ago that you live around the corner from
some factory/industrial area?

I said


I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended records.
We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

Arny said



If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same taste in
buggy whips.


Funny, I had a horse. Used to ride him all the time on the trails around Stoney
Point. Pure bread Arabian. If you could afford to own a turntable like the
Forsell you might not be crying sour grapes all the time. But then you can't
afford any of the real estate around where I used to ride my horse. Never did
invest in a buggy whip.

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 22:12:50 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended records.
We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same taste in
buggy whips.

Oh, are you *still* here?

"Sandman" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"S888Wheel" wrote in message


I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recommended records.
We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same
taste in buggy whips.

Arnii, didn't I just read a while ago that you live around the corner
from some factory/industrial area?

Thanks Sanders for further proof that you can't read and comprehend English.

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

I said


I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended records.
We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

Arny said



If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same
taste in buggy whips.


Funny, I had a horse. Used to ride him all the time on the trails
around Stoney Point. Pure bread Arabian.

I once had a pure bread Arabian horse. I modeled him from a piece of fresh
Wonder Bread. Then I dunked him in my glass of milk and ate him.

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 06:36:22 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

I said


I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended records.
We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

Arny said



If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same
taste in buggy whips.


Funny, I had a horse. Used to ride him all the time on the trails
around Stoney Point. Pure bread Arabian.

I once had a pure bread Arabian horse. I modeled him from a piece of fresh
Wonder Bread. Then I dunked him in my glass of milk and ate him.

At least this wasn't an "inbability" oof yours.

I said


I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended records.
We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

Arny said



If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same
taste in buggy whips.


Funny, I had a horse. Used to ride him all the time on the trails
around Stoney Point. Pure bread Arabian.

I once had a pure bread Arabian horse. I modeled him from a piece of fresh
Wonder Bread. Then I dunked him in my glass of milk and ate him.


Do you really think that pointing out spelling errors will deflect the the fact
that you are bitter about people like me buying and enjoying equipment like the
Forsell turntable because you cannot afford it? You are quite a "characture"
Arny.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"S888Wheel" wrote in message


I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended records.
We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same taste
in
buggy whips.



Horses are good for riding, and riding horses can be lots of fun.
People use horses for entertainmnet, not for utility as a means
of transportation. So is listneing to reproduced music; its
for entertainment






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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"S888Wheel" wrote in message

I said


I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended records.
We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

Arny said



If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same
taste in buggy whips.


Funny, I had a horse. Used to ride him all the time on the trails
around Stoney Point. Pure bread Arabian.

I once had a pure bread Arabian horse. I modeled him from a piece of fresh
Wonder Bread. Then I dunked him in my glass of milk and ate him.



You were too poor to afford Oreos.




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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Sandman" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"S888Wheel" wrote in message


I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recommended records.
We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same
taste in buggy whips.

Arnii, didn't I just read a while ago that you live around the corner
from some factory/industrial area?

Thanks Sanders for further proof that you can't read and comprehend
English.



But he 'can' interpret aerial photographs.
Too bad they don't have the proper angle and
resolution to show the crack in your foundation.




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John Atkinson smirked:

I am flattered by the amount of attention Arthur Salvatore pays me. And
when Mr. Salvatore writes "There is no question that John Atkinson is a
very smart business man and nothing I know that he did was illegal," I
take that as praise. :-)


Your statement makes you sound more like a Mafia "Don" than an audio
magazine editor. :-(

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

I said

I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended
records. We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

Arny said

If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same
taste in buggy whips.

Funny, I had a horse. Used to ride him all the time on the trails
around Stoney Point. Pure bread Arabian.

I once had a pure bread Arabian horse. I modeled him from a piece of
fresh Wonder Bread. Then I dunked him in my glass of milk and ate
him.

Do you really think that pointing out spelling errors will deflect
the the fact that you are bitter about people like me buying and
enjoying equipment like the Forsell turntable because you cannot
afford it?

Your imagination is working overtime, Marc, err sockpuppet Wheel.

You are quite a "characture" Arny.

Yawn.

(Bill McCullough) wrote in message
. com...
John Atkinson smirked:
when Mr. Salvatore writes "There is no question that John Atkinson is a
very smart business man and nothing I know that he did was illegal," I
take that as praise. :-)

Your statement makes you sound more like a Mafia "Don" than an audio
magazine editor. :-(

For goodness' sake, Mr. McCullough, don't you have a sense of humor? I
thought it clear that I was "cracking wise." How else do you think I
should respond to "Crazy Arthur" (as he is known in Toronto) and his
cooked-up case?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

I said

I like a lot of the titles he has on his list of recomended
records. We also seem to have the same taste in turntables.

Arny said

If either of you could afford a horse, you'd probably have the same
taste in buggy whips.

Funny, I had a horse. Used to ride him all the time on the trails
around Stoney Point. Pure bread Arabian.

I once had a pure bread Arabian horse. I modeled him from a piece of
fresh Wonder Bread. Then I dunked him in my glass of milk and ate
him.

Do you really think that pointing out spelling errors will deflect
the the fact that you are bitter about people like me buying and
enjoying equipment like the Forsell turntable because you cannot
afford it?


Your imagination is working overtime, Marc, err sockpuppet Wheel.

No, it is clear that anyone who is amazed by an anual salary of 78,000 would
not likely be able to afford the Forsell Air Reference Turntable with the
Flywheel. Your bitterness and class envy have already been proven as fact. But
then you are not bright enough to even get my name right.



You are quite a "characture" Arny.

Yawn.

Naturally your own spelling errors, even gross ones like the one above bore
you. They expose your hypocrisy. I can see how that could become quite boring.
It is such a common event.

(John Atkinson) wrote:



(Bill McCullough) wrote in message
.com...
John Atkinson smirked:
when Mr. Salvatore writes "There is no question that John Atkinson is a
very smart business man and nothing I know that he did was illegal," I
take that as praise. :-)

Your statement makes you sound more like a Mafia "Don" than an audio
magazine editor. :-(

For goodness' sake, Mr. McCullough, don't you have a sense of humor? I
thought it clear that I was "cracking wise." How else do you think I
should respond to "Crazy Arthur" (as he is known in Toronto) and his
cooked-up case?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Despite his case, while perhaps, being overstated there are certain aspects of
it that appear to have the characteristics of a marketing plan.

For example the RCL was advertised as having "700 Recommended Components.
During that time a quick stroke count of "Deletions" showed roughly 75 while
the January components reviewed list had roughly 150 for the previous year
(confirmed as well by an earlier Archibald editorial.)

An examination of that January component reviewed list for a few categories
showed that every product reviewed was found on the next April RCL.

Given that limited data it would not have been surprising if the list had been
increasing in size by 75 units per year.

Surprisingly a stroke count of the list showed it only contained a little over
500 components. Shortly after this was posted on the newsgroups the new RCL
issue cover announced "500 Recommended Components."

Of course, a count error (not that hard to do) could simply be an oversight but
on the face of it seems more likely to be just a by-product of marketing
strategy especially when every reviewed (AFAICT) product ends up being
"Recommended."

Hence one reason for the skepticism.

Nousaine wrote:

(John Atkinson) wrote:




(Bill McCullough) wrote in message
e.com...

John Atkinson smirked:

when Mr. Salvatore writes "There is no question that John Atkinson is a
very smart business man and nothing I know that he did was illegal," I
take that as praise. :-)

Your statement makes you sound more like a Mafia "Don" than an audio
magazine editor. :-(

For goodness' sake, Mr. McCullough, don't you have a sense of humor? I
thought it clear that I was "cracking wise." How else do you think I
should respond to "Crazy Arthur" (as he is known in Toronto) and his
cooked-up case?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile


Despite his case, while perhaps, being overstated there are certain aspects of
it that appear to have the characteristics of a marketing plan.

For example the RCL was advertised as having "700 Recommended Components.
During that time a quick stroke count of "Deletions" showed roughly 75 while
the January components reviewed list had roughly 150 for the previous year
(confirmed as well by an earlier Archibald editorial.)

An examination of that January component reviewed list for a few categories
showed that every product reviewed was found on the next April RCL.

Given that limited data it would not have been surprising if the list had been
increasing in size by 75 units per year.

Surprisingly a stroke count of the list showed it only contained a little over
500 components. Shortly after this was posted on the newsgroups the new RCL
issue cover announced "500 Recommended Components."

*Goooooooooooooooooooooooood* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It looks like that Mr Atkinson knows perfectly how to do the kind of
"corrections" that he accused Arnold Krueger recently.
I'm sure now that Mr. Krueger has never modified his web site and that
Mr Atkinson was the author and actor of this scenario...
....Hum, it stinks but it's really delicious. :-)

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


No, it is clear that anyone who is amazed by an anual salary of
78,000 would not likely be able to afford the Forsell Air Reference
Turntable with the Flywheel.


I'm having trouble with this new word "anual". I've got it figured for some
new form of the root word "anus".

Now I know why you've been so quiet about your sources of income, sockpuppet
wheel.

"Nousaine" wrote in message

(John Atkinson) wrote:



(Bill McCullough) wrote in message
. com...
John Atkinson smirked:
when Mr. Salvatore writes "There is no question that John Atkinson
is a very smart business man and nothing I know that he did was
illegal," I take that as praise. :-)

Your statement makes you sound more like a Mafia "Don" than an audio
magazine editor. :-(

For goodness' sake, Mr. McCullough, don't you have a sense of humor?
I thought it clear that I was "cracking wise." How else do you think
I should respond to "Crazy Arthur" (as he is known in Toronto) and
his cooked-up case?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Despite his case, while perhaps, being overstated there are certain
aspects of it that appear to have the characteristics of a marketing
plan.

For example the RCL was advertised as having "700 Recommended
Components. During that time a quick stroke count of "Deletions"
showed roughly 75 while the January components reviewed list had
roughly 150 for the previous year (confirmed as well by an earlier
Archibald editorial.)

An examination of that January component reviewed list for a few
categories showed that every product reviewed was found on the next
April RCL.

Given that limited data it would not have been surprising if the list
had been increasing in size by 75 units per year.

Surprisingly a stroke count of the list showed it only contained a
little over 500 components. Shortly after this was posted on the
newsgroups the new RCL issue cover announced "500 Recommended
Components."

Of course, a count error (not that hard to do) could simply be an
oversight but on the face of it seems more likely to be just a
by-product of marketing strategy especially when every reviewed
(AFAICT) product ends up being "Recommended."

Hence one reason for the skepticism.

I think that Atkinson needs to start posting a new slogan for Stereophile"

"Stereophile, the magazine for people who don't know how to count".

No, it is clear that anyone who is amazed by an anual salary of
78,000 would not likely be able to afford the Forsell Air Reference
Turntable with the Flywheel.


I'm having trouble with this new word "anual". I've got it figured for some
new form of the root word "anus".

Now I know why you've been so quiet about your sources of income, sockpuppet
wheel.

Thanks for finally admitting you cannot afford my equipment. Thanks for showing
your perverted thought proccess and thanks for admitting defeat in this debate
by your own standards.

(Nousaine) wrote in message ...
(John Atkinson) wrote:
(Bill McCullough) wrote in message
.com...
John Atkinson smirked:
when Mr. Salvatore writes "There is no question that John Atkinson is a
very smart business man and nothing I know that he did was illegal," I
take that as praise. :-)

Your statement makes you sound more like a Mafia "Don" than an audio
magazine editor. :-(

For goodness' sake, Mr. McCullough, don't you have a sense of humor? I
thought it clear that I was "cracking wise." How else do you think I
should respond to "Crazy Arthur" (as he is known in Toronto) and his
cooked-up case?

Despite his case, while perhaps, being overstated there are certain
aspects of it that appear to have the characteristics of a marketing plan.

Good gracious, I am shocked, shocked. First, I am called a "smart business
man," then it is implied that I know about "marketing plans." I am, of
course, guilty on both counts! But perhaps it needs be asked why these
things are supposed to be so dreadful?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

(John Atkinson) wrote:



(Nousaine) wrote in message
...
(John Atkinson) wrote:
(Bill McCullough) wrote in message
.com...
John Atkinson smirked:
when Mr. Salvatore writes "There is no question that John Atkinson is
a
very smart business man and nothing I know that he did was illegal," I
take that as praise. :-)

Your statement makes you sound more like a Mafia "Don" than an audio
magazine editor. :-(

For goodness' sake, Mr. McCullough, don't you have a sense of humor? I
thought it clear that I was "cracking wise." How else do you think I
should respond to "Crazy Arthur" (as he is known in Toronto) and his
cooked-up case?

Despite his case, while perhaps, being overstated there are certain
aspects of it that appear to have the characteristics of a marketing plan.

Good gracious, I am shocked, shocked. First, I am called a "smart business
man," then it is implied that I know about "marketing plans." I am, of
course, guilty on both counts! But perhaps it needs be asked why these
things are supposed to be so dreadful?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Nothing, of course. But your RCL is said to be a list of Components that are
Recommended based on sonic performance; when it appears that it is more likely
simply a tool for marketing the magazine.

On 09 Feb 2004 20:28:01 GMT, (Nousaine) wrote:

(John Atkinson) wrote:



(Nousaine) wrote in message
...
(John Atkinson) wrote:
(Bill McCullough) wrote in message
.com...
John Atkinson smirked:
when Mr. Salvatore writes "There is no question that John Atkinson is
a
very smart business man and nothing I know that he did was illegal," I
take that as praise. :-)

Your statement makes you sound more like a Mafia "Don" than an audio
magazine editor. :-(

For goodness' sake, Mr. McCullough, don't you have a sense of humor? I
thought it clear that I was "cracking wise." How else do you think I
should respond to "Crazy Arthur" (as he is known in Toronto) and his
cooked-up case?

Despite his case, while perhaps, being overstated there are certain
aspects of it that appear to have the characteristics of a marketing plan.

Good gracious, I am shocked, shocked. First, I am called a "smart business
man," then it is implied that I know about "marketing plans." I am, of
course, guilty on both counts! But perhaps it needs be asked why these
things are supposed to be so dreadful?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Nothing, of course. But your RCL is said to be a list of Components that are
Recommended based on sonic performance; when it appears that it is more likely
simply a tool for marketing the magazine.

Is there anything on that list that you would consider not
recommending based on "sonic performance"?

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"S888Wheel" wrote in message


No, it is clear that anyone who is amazed by an anual salary of
78,000 would not likely be able to afford the Forsell Air Reference
Turntable with the Flywheel.


I'm having trouble with this new word "anual". I've got it figured for
some
new form of the root word "anus".


I will leave that to the anal expert.




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dave weil wrote:




On 09 Feb 2004 20:28:01 GMT, (Nousaine) wrote:

(John Atkinson) wrote:



(Nousaine) wrote in message
...
(John Atkinson) wrote:
(Bill McCullough) wrote in message
.com...
John Atkinson smirked:
when Mr. Salvatore writes "There is no question that John Atkinson
is
a
very smart business man and nothing I know that he did was illegal,"
I
take that as praise. :-)

Your statement makes you sound more like a Mafia "Don" than an audio
magazine editor. :-(

For goodness' sake, Mr. McCullough, don't you have a sense of humor? I
thought it clear that I was "cracking wise." How else do you think I
should respond to "Crazy Arthur" (as he is known in Toronto) and his
cooked-up case?

Despite his case, while perhaps, being overstated there are certain
aspects of it that appear to have the characteristics of a marketing
plan.

Good gracious, I am shocked, shocked. First, I am called a "smart business
man," then it is implied that I know about "marketing plans." I am, of
course, guilty on both counts! But perhaps it needs be asked why these
things are supposed to be so dreadful?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Nothing, of course. But your RCL is said to be a list of Components that are
Recommended based on sonic performance; when it appears that it is more
likely
simply a tool for marketing the magazine.

Is there anything on that list that you would consider not
recommending based on "sonic performance"?

You mean besides expensive wire, equipment racks and high output impedance
amplifiers? Or more expensive amplification devices that appear to be sonically
indistinguishable from less expensive models? In the latter regard I might
reverse desireablility order :-)

On 09 Feb 2004 22:45:59 GMT, (Nousaine) wrote:

Is there anything on that list that you would consider not
recommending based on "sonic performance"?

You mean besides expensive wire, equipment racks and high output impedance
amplifiers? Or more expensive amplification devices that appear to be sonically
indistinguishable from less expensive models? In the latter regard I might
reverse desireablility order :-)

You didn't answer my question.

What are you trying to hide?