"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire

Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.

True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.


Here's a new flash for you Powell: Home
audio ain't rocket science.

Are you familiar with Quantum Chromo-
dynamics?

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire

Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.

True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.

Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks on status symbols.

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols - houses, cars, boats,
degrees club memberships. I get that.

Here's a new flash for you Powell: Home
audio ain't rocket science.

Are you familiar with Quantum Chromodynamics?

Right, a joke in the context of audio. ;-)

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire

Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.

True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.

Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks on status symbols.

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols - houses, cars, boats,
degrees club memberships. I get that.

Degrees are status symbols?

"Jenn" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire

Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?

In Powell world, they matter regardless.

True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.

Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks on
status symbols.

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols -
houses, cars, boats, degrees, club memberships. I get
that.

Degrees are status symbols?

Of course.

Warning! Warning! The turnip truck is coming through town! ;-)

However, it hasn't kept any of my family from getting one or more. For us
they are an unintended consequence of learning useful stuff.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..


Warning! Warning! The turnip truck is coming through town! ;-)


It will do as well as a city bus, in a pinch.
Go for it!!!



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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire

Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?

In Powell world, they matter regardless.

True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.

Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks on
status symbols.

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols -
houses, cars, boats, degrees, club memberships. I get
that.

Degrees are status symbols?

Of course.

Warning! Warning! The turnip truck is coming through town! ;-)

However, it hasn't kept any of my family from getting one or more. For us
they are an unintended consequence of learning useful stuff.

Wow. I've never known of anyone who has gone through the work of
getting a degree simply to have a status symbol.

"Jenn" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire

Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don't you
think?

In Powell world, they matter regardless.

True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.

Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks on
status symbols.

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols -
houses, cars, boats, degrees, club memberships. I get
that.

Degrees are status symbols?

Of course.

Warning! Warning! The turnip truck is coming through town! ;-)

However, it hasn't kept any of my family from getting one or more. For us
they are an unintended consequence of learning useful stuff.

Wow. I've never known of anyone who has gone through the work of
getting a degree simply to have a status symbol.

Well, given Arny's need to feel superior to everybody else in every aspect
of his life, how else is he going to do it with other people with degrees
(including many with Masters or PhD's) unless all those people did it for
the status, while HE did it to learn?

LOL.

Harry Lavo said:

Wow. I've never known of anyone who has gone through the work of
getting a degree simply to have a status symbol.

Well, given Arny's need to feel superior to everybody else in every aspect
of his life, how else is he going to do it with other people with degrees
(including many with Masters or PhD's) unless all those people did it for
the status, while HE did it to learn?

Harry, you're probably right, but I'd like to offer a word of warning here.
I, too, have attempted to parse the convoluted impulses egotism and
paranoia that fill Krooger's dysfunctional mind. It's a dangerous and
disgusting undertaking. You can, before you realize it, start to feel a
familiarity with the bizarre dimension Krooger has konstructed. If you're
going to dwell there for any length of time, it's wise to take precautions.
Just as psychiatrists need to consult other psychiatrists periodically as a
safeguard against getting drawn too far into their patients' worlds, you
should leave yourself a trail of breadcrumbs. Just in case.

"Harry Lavo" wrote in message


Well, given Arny's need to feel superior to everybody
else in every aspect of his life,


Extrenalizing, again Harry?

Please buy, beg, borrow or steal a clue at your earliest convenience!

"Jenn" wrote in message


Wow. I've never known of anyone who has gone through the
work of getting a degree simply to have a status symbol.

That would be an excluded middle argument.

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message


Wow. I've never known of anyone who has gone through the
work of getting a degree simply to have a status symbol.

That would be an excluded middle argument.

No it isn't.

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:26:59 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

However, it hasn't kept any of my family from getting one or more. For us
they are an unintended consequence of learning useful stuff.

Interesting that none of you actually intended to get a degree.

dave weil said:

However, it hasn't kept any of my family from getting one or more. For us
they are an unintended consequence of learning useful stuff.

Interesting that none of you actually intended to get a degree.

Of course they didn't. It wasn't until Krooger and the Kroo-brats were able
to entrap some university officials in compromising positions that the
degrees even came into the picture.

Jenn said:

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols - houses, cars, boats,
degrees club memberships. I get that.

Degrees are status symbols?

Krooger doesn't have any degrees, you know. In his persistent delusional
state he attributes some part of his panorama of failure to that lack.

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
[dot] net wrote in message

Jenn said:

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols -
houses, cars, boats, degrees club memberships. I get
that.

Degrees are status symbols?

Krooger doesn't have any degrees, you know.

There is no such person as "Krooger" in the real world, so of course he or
she or whatever Middius imagines in his delusional state, has no degrees.

OTOH Krueger has a BS in Egineering.

Middius, being a sockpuppet can have whatever degrees he needs at any time
or none, depending what he needs to score debating points.

"Arny Krueger" said:

OTOH Krueger has a BS in Egineering.


I bet that takes LoT;S! of knowlege ;-)

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Sander deWaal said:

OTOH Krueger has a BS in Egineering.

I bet that takes LoT;S! of knowlege ;-)

Wouldn't it be adorable if Krooger were asked to instruct some enjuhnears
in Krooglish? ;-)

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
[dot] net wrote in message

Jenn said:

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols -
houses, cars, boats, degrees club memberships. I get
that.

Degrees are status symbols?

Krooger doesn't have any degrees, you know.

There is no such person as "Krooger" in the real world, so of course he or
she or whatever Middius imagines in his delusional state, has no degrees.

OTOH Krueger has a BS in Egineering.


in what engineering specialty?



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"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire

Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.

True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.

Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks
on status symbols.

OK, I’m looking for RCA/RCA cables. What
makes and models of RCA to RCA cables meet
your personal standards? My specifications,
when possible, would include; must be fully
shielded, 5 nines copper, connectors with
excellent surface contact but will release
without tearing off female RCA, significant strain
relief, solid core not stranded, consistent
sounding from component to component, and
not impedance sensitive. So your short list of
cost effective cables would include what
makes and models, Arny?


Hey, I live in a community that prizes status
symbols - houses, cars, boats, degrees club
memberships. I get that.

Yes, I was in your neck of the woods, Grosse
Pointe Yacht Club for a wedding last year.

Why is the turbidity in the St. Clair River so
high... pollution, high volume? Saint Mary’s
River by comparison is pristine.

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire

Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.

True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.

Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks
on status symbols.

OK, I’m looking for RCA/RCA cables. What
makes and models of RCA to RCA cables meet
your personal standards? My specifications,
when possible, would include; must be fully
shielded, 5 nines copper, connectors with
excellent surface contact but will release
without tearing off female RCA, significant strain
relief, solid core not stranded, consistent
sounding from component to component, and
not impedance sensitive. So your short list of
cost effective cables would include what
makes and models, Arny?


Hey, I live in a community that prizes status
symbols - houses, cars, boats, degrees club
memberships. I get that.

Yes, I was in your neck of the woods, Grosse
Pointe Yacht Club for a wedding last year.

I guess they are upgrading the harbor.

Why is the turbidity in the St. Clair River so
high... pollution, high volume? Saint Mary’s
River by comparison is pristine.

Lake Huron and Lake St Clair are sandy in that area. The St Clair river has
a lot of sandy bottom. Part of the appearance of turbidity in some places is
actually the shallow sandy bottom showing through. Also, some of the the
sand gets picked up by the water. This is especially true when its stormy or
where the current is swift.

BTW Lake Superior is fairly turbid where the shore is sandy, especially when
the water is stirred up by the weather. Especially true where we hiked this
fall between Grand Marais and the Two Hearted River. We had a gale one
night. We filtered our drinking water and cleaned the filter maybe three
times in 8 days.

AFAIK the Saint Mary's river has rock bottom and shore upstream by Superior
where its generally clear, but it gets more turbid as it approaches Drummond
Island and Lake Huron.

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status
symbols - houses, cars, boats, degrees club
memberships. I get that.

Yes, I was in your neck of the woods, Grosse
Pointe Yacht Club for a wedding last year.

I guess they are upgrading the harbor.

The St. Clair River area seems like some
pretty boring boating. No open water for 15 miles
in either direction. Boats pace upriver and then
down river. The bikini-girls on the larger cruisers
were nice viewing. I passed a dive shop in the
area, how does he stay in business?


BTW Lake Superior is fairly turbid where the
shore is sandy, especially when the water is
stirred up by the weather. Especially true
where we hiked this fall between Grand Marais
and the Two Hearted River. We had a gale one
night.

The Two Hearted River is notorious for plagues
of black flies in the spring to mid summer.

"gale one night"... been there, on the Canadian
shore of Superior. Even with all the stakes tied
to the tent's storm cover the wind pushed the
tent walls inward. To noisy to sleep, can't walk
around because of all the sand in the wind and
it is to cold to be outside of a sleeping bag.
And unfortunately one has to urinate lot when
you are not moving around and the body
core temp is below optimal.

That's right up there with spending the better
part of 10 days camping in the rain on Superior
Eastern shoreline.


AFAIK the Saint Mary's river has rock bottom
and shore upstream by Superior where its
generally clear, but it gets more turbid as it
approaches Drummond Island and Lake Huron.

I've canoed the area between the Sault and
Neebish Island. Near the locks the bottom is
blasted rock and the channel is very narrow
in spots. Carriers pass with only a few feet
under the keel. Passed the loaded down-bound
Roger Blough (858' ) in such a channel.
28,400 bhp makes for an interesting Doppler
effect off the craggy rock bottom to the canoe's
bottom to mine.

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status
symbols - houses, cars, boats, degrees club
memberships. I get that.

Yes, I was in your neck of the woods, Grosse
Pointe Yacht Club for a wedding last year.

I guess they are upgrading the harbor.

The St. Clair River area seems like some
pretty boring boating. No open water for 15 miles
in either direction. Boats pace upriver and then
down river. The bikini-girls on the larger cruisers
were nice viewing. I passed a dive shop in the
area, how does he stay in business?

Wrecks abound in Lake Huron.

BTW Lake Superior is fairly turbid where the
shore is sandy, especially when the water is
stirred up by the weather. Especially true
where we hiked this fall between Grand Marais
and the Two Hearted River. We had a gale one
night.

The Two Hearted River is notorious for plagues
of black flies in the spring to mid summer.

You won't find me camping then. Wife and I are empty-nesters so we wait
till the kiddies are back in school.

"gale one night"... been there, on the Canadian
shore of Superior. Even with all the stakes tied
to the tent's storm cover the wind pushed the
tent walls inward. To noisy to sleep, can't walk
around because of all the sand in the wind and
it is to cold to be outside of a sleeping bag.
And unfortunately one has to urinate lot when
you are not moving around and the body
core temp is below optimal.

I've slept through some record wind storms.

That's right up there with spending the better
part of 10 days camping in the rain on Superior
Eastern shoreline.

Another advantage of camping in early-mid fall. Reduced rain.

AFAIK the Saint Mary's river has rock bottom
and shore upstream by Superior where its
generally clear, but it gets more turbid as it
approaches Drummond Island and Lake Huron.

I've canoed the area between the Sault and
Neebish Island. Near the locks the bottom is
blasted rock and the channel is very narrow
in spots. Carriers pass with only a few feet
under the keel. Passed the loaded down-bound
Roger Blough (858' ) in such a channel.
28,400 bhp makes for an interesting Doppler
effect off the craggy rock bottom to the canoe's
bottom to mine.

We might be canoeing along Superior's eastern shore this summer.

"Arny Krueger" wrote

The Two Hearted River is notorious for plagues
of black flies in the spring to mid summer.

You won't find me camping then. Wife and I are
empty-nesters so we wait till the kiddies are back
in school.

Have you considered a RV instead of tenting,
now that the kids are gone?


AFAIK the Saint Mary's river has rock bottom
and shore upstream by Superior where its
generally clear, but it gets more turbid as it
approaches Drummond Island and Lake Huron.

I've canoed the area between the Sault and
Neebish Island. Near the locks the bottom is
blasted rock and the channel is very narrow
in spots. Carriers pass with only a few feet
under the keel. Passed the loaded down-bound
Roger Blough (858' ) in such a channel.
28,400 bhp makes for an interesting Doppler
effect off the craggy rock bottom to the canoe's
bottom to mine.

We might be canoeing along Superior's eastern
shore this summer.

If you enjoy geology, wilderness hiking and canoeing
then add to your short list:
Lake Superior Provincial Park
http://www.ontarioparks.com/english/lakes.html
Pukaskwa National Park
http://canadianparks.com/ontario/pukasnp/index.htm

"Powell" said:

OK, Im looking for RCA/RCA cables. What
makes and models of RCA to RCA cables meet
your personal standards? My specifications,
when possible, would include; must be fully
shielded, 5 nines copper, connectors with
excellent surface contact but will release
without tearing off female RCA, significant strain
relief, solid core not stranded, consistent
sounding from component to component, and
not impedance sensitive. So your short list of
cost effective cables would include what
makes and models, Arny?


Can you solder?
Then get a few meters of RG58U coax, and some WBT connectors with
twistable surround that will clamp on the receptacle.
A 1 meter stereo pair will set you back about $26 (with the connectors
being about $8 each).

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Sander deWaal wrote:
"Powell" said:

OK, I'm looking for RCA/RCA cables. What
makes and models of RCA to RCA cables meet
your personal standards? My specifications,
when possible, would include; must be fully
shielded, 5 nines copper, connectors with
excellent surface contact but will release
without tearing off female RCA, significant strain
relief, solid core not stranded, consistent
sounding from component to component, and
not impedance sensitive. So your short list of
cost effective cables would include what
makes and models, Arny?


Can you solder?
Then get a few meters of RG58U coax, and some WBT connectors with
twistable surround that will clamp on the receptacle.
A 1 meter stereo pair will set you back about $26 (with the connectors
being about $8 each).

I made a set of those about 20 years ago. Too stiff and didn't sound
any different so I put 'em in my box o spare cables and there they rest
to this day .

ScottW

ScottW wrote:
Sander deWaal wrote:
"Powell" said:

OK, I'm looking for RCA/RCA cables. What
makes and models of RCA to RCA cables meet
your personal standards? My specifications,
when possible, would include; must be fully
shielded, 5 nines copper, connectors with
excellent surface contact but will release
without tearing off female RCA, significant strain
relief, solid core not stranded, consistent
sounding from component to component, and
not impedance sensitive. So your short list of
cost effective cables would include what
makes and models, Arny?


Can you solder?
Then get a few meters of RG58U coax, and some WBT connectors with
twistable surround that will clamp on the receptacle.
A 1 meter stereo pair will set you back about $26 (with the connectors
being about $8 each).

I made a set of those about 20 years ago. Too stiff and didn't sound
any different so I put 'em in my box o spare cables and there they rest
to this day .

ScottW

Scottie accused me of lying about Greenhill's ABX
cable comparison in 1983. Greenhill compared an early Master
cable against 16g zipcord.
.. Greenhill did not give a diameter for the Master cable
but I assumed that if for no other reason that objectivist would not
falsify the data to favour the proprietary Master (Remember? "Wire
is wire" is an article of faith in the Chapel.
I assumed the cables were of the same diameter= functionally
identical.
Scottie calculalated the monster gauge at 12 ( "or maybe 14").

He said I was "lying" when I said that 16g zipcord that Greenhill
used and Master cable were equal ( same diameter, functionally
identical,whatever)
I reread Greenhill and found that the frequency response
difference between the two was all of 0,04 db. Yes, 0,04.!!!
Scottie had an answer:
Can't get your facts straight... again. .04 db was FR error.
What was the insertion loss?

..I answered:

"Out of Scottie's album of moronic snares:
"THE INSERTION LOSS WAS 0,16 OF A DB. REPEAT 0,16
OF A DB.
Even dogs may have difficulty hearing it.
Who remembers figures like 0,16 of a db? Who cares?
Moronic snare layers think they got something to lie about in the
future just because no one will remember".

I apologise for going on about this but I want a to have a record.
To me accusation of lying, RAO or not, is a serious matter
As I foresaw Scottie is letting sleeping dogs lie waiting in ambush
to pop up when details are forgotten and he can restart.
He has done this several times before in several different threads.
It seems to be his internet technique.
Ludovic Mirabel

wrote:
ScottW wrote:

Scottie accused me of lying about Greenhill's ABX
cable comparison in 1983. Greenhill compared an early Master
cable against 16g zipcord.
. Greenhill did not give a diameter for the Master cable
but I assumed that if for no other reason that objectivist would not
falsify the data to favour the proprietary Master (Remember? "Wire
is wire" is an article of faith in the Chapel.
I assumed the cables were of the same diameter= functionally
identical.
Scottie calculalated the monster gauge at 12 ( "or maybe 14").

Poor deLudo... he can't keep anything straight.
First... It was Monster Cable.
Second.... there was a photo in the article of the 3 cables showing
they aren't close to same so why did deLudo claim otherwise?
Third... deLudo hadn't even read the article till I called him on his
extensive and repetitive errors in trying to quote the article.

He said I was "lying" when I said that 16g zipcord that Greenhill
used and Master cable were equal ( same diameter, functionally
identical,whatever)
I reread Greenhill and found that the frequency response
difference between the two was all of 0,04 db. Yes, 0,04.!!!
Scottie had an answer:
Can't get your facts straight... again. .04 db was FR error.
What was the insertion loss?

.I answered:

"Out of Scottie's album of moronic snares:
"THE INSERTION LOSS WAS 0,16 OF A DB. REPEAT 0,16
OF A DB.
Even dogs may have difficulty hearing it.

Exactly and no one did using music. No one.

Who remembers figures like 0,16 of a db? Who cares?

Apparently people who use pink noise as a source may care..
cuz some could hear the difference with pink noise.
None could with music though.

Oddly, Greenhill never did a level matched comparison of Monster
and 16 guage. Why not Ludo?

Moronic snare layers think they got something to lie about in the
future just because no one will remember".

I apologise for going on about this but I want a to have a record.

Record of what? You're numerous blatant misrepresentations?
Ok... you should thank me.

To me accusation of lying, RAO or not, is a serious matter

Simple solution to your problem deLudo. Get your facts
straight and stop misquoting people.

Hey deLudo... I can post on RAHE if I choose to..
why can't you? Answer: They don't like liars.

ScottW