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"Arny Krueger" wrote

Your suggestion was investigated by L.
Greenhill, Stereo Review, Aug. 1983,p.51.

To do this I would
need to forget about the advances in computer
modeling not available in 1983, advances in
material science, manufacturing techniques,
improvement in overall equipment standards
and the volumes of cable reviews written in
audio magazines.


The inclusion of the last item sets the pace
for the rest of your comment, Powell.
Something about the blind leading the blind.

Mmmm... Greenhill, Stereo Review that was a
magazine review, no?


I’m sorry, I don’t think that I could dumb-down
that far, Arny.


Right, Powell. For you to understand how cables
really work would take a lot of development in the
opposite directiong.

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire



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"Powell" wrote in message
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Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire


Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

In Powell world, they matter regardless.

Here's a new flash for you Powell: Home audio ain't rocket science.



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On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:41:23 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Here's a new flash for you Powell: Home audio ain't rocket science.


Wild that you now admit that home audio doesn't follow the laws of
physics.

That's quite a breakthrough for you, Arnold.
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"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.


Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire


Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.

True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.


Here's a new flash for you Powell: Home
audio ain't rocket science.

Are you familiar with Quantum Chromo-
dynamics?









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"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.


Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire


Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.


True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.


Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks on status symbols.

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols - houses, cars, boats,
degrees club memberships. I get that.

Here's a new flash for you Powell: Home
audio ain't rocket science.


Are you familiar with Quantum Chromodynamics?


Right, a joke in the context of audio. ;-)




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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire

Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.


True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.


Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks on status symbols.

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols - houses, cars, boats,
degrees club memberships. I get that.


Degrees are status symbols?
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"Jenn" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire


Not at all, Powell.


All of these things matter, depending on the situation.


Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.


True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.


Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks on
status symbols.


Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols -
houses, cars, boats, degrees, club memberships. I get
that.


Degrees are status symbols?


Of course.

Warning! Warning! The turnip truck is coming through town! ;-)

However, it hasn't kept any of my family from getting one or more. For us
they are an unintended consequence of learning useful stuff.


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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Warning! Warning! The turnip truck is coming through town! ;-)


It will do as well as a city bus, in a pinch.
Go for it!!!



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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire


Not at all, Powell.


All of these things matter, depending on the situation.


Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.


True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.


Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks on
status symbols.


Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols -
houses, cars, boats, degrees, club memberships. I get
that.


Degrees are status symbols?


Of course.

Warning! Warning! The turnip truck is coming through town! ;-)

However, it hasn't kept any of my family from getting one or more. For us
they are an unintended consequence of learning useful stuff.


Wow. I've never known of anyone who has gone through the work of
getting a degree simply to have a status symbol.
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:26:59 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
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However, it hasn't kept any of my family from getting one or more. For us
they are an unintended consequence of learning useful stuff.


Interesting that none of you actually intended to get a degree.


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Jenn said:

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols - houses, cars, boats,
degrees club memberships. I get that.


Degrees are status symbols?


Krooger doesn't have any degrees, you know. In his persistent delusional
state he attributes some part of his panorama of failure to that lack.




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"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
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Jenn said:

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status symbols -
houses, cars, boats, degrees club memberships. I get
that.


Degrees are status symbols?


Krooger doesn't have any degrees, you know.


There is no such person as "Krooger" in the real world, so of course he or
she or whatever Middius imagines in his delusional state, has no degrees.

OTOH Krueger has a BS in Egineering.

Middius, being a sockpuppet can have whatever degrees he needs at any time
or none, depending what he needs to score debating points.


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Default L.Greenhill, Stereo Review, Aug. 1983,p.51


"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire

Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.


True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.


Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks
on status symbols.

OK, I’m looking for RCA/RCA cables. What
makes and models of RCA to RCA cables meet
your personal standards? My specifications,
when possible, would include; must be fully
shielded, 5 nines copper, connectors with
excellent surface contact but will release
without tearing off female RCA, significant strain
relief, solid core not stranded, consistent
sounding from component to component, and
not impedance sensitive. So your short list of
cost effective cables would include what
makes and models, Arny?


Hey, I live in a community that prizes status
symbols - houses, cars, boats, degrees club
memberships. I get that.

Yes, I was in your neck of the woods, Grosse
Pointe Yacht Club for a wedding last year.

Why is the turbidity in the St. Clair River so
high... pollution, high volume? Saint Mary’s
River by comparison is pristine.




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"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Let me sum up your understanding of wire
technology then.

Metallurgy = Metallurgy
Dielectrics = Dielectrics
Geometry = Geometry
Connectors = Connectors
------------------------------
Therefore Wire = Wire

Not at all, Powell.

All of these things matter, depending on the situation.

Your qualification is a little late, don’t you
think?


In Powell world, they matter regardless.


True. Regardless if I pay $10 - 200 per foot.


Oh, I get it - you're into spending the big bucks
on status symbols.

OK, I’m looking for RCA/RCA cables. What
makes and models of RCA to RCA cables meet
your personal standards? My specifications,
when possible, would include; must be fully
shielded, 5 nines copper, connectors with
excellent surface contact but will release
without tearing off female RCA, significant strain
relief, solid core not stranded, consistent
sounding from component to component, and
not impedance sensitive. So your short list of
cost effective cables would include what
makes and models, Arny?


Hey, I live in a community that prizes status
symbols - houses, cars, boats, degrees club
memberships. I get that.


Yes, I was in your neck of the woods, Grosse
Pointe Yacht Club for a wedding last year.


I guess they are upgrading the harbor.

Why is the turbidity in the St. Clair River so
high... pollution, high volume? Saint Mary’s
River by comparison is pristine.


Lake Huron and Lake St Clair are sandy in that area. The St Clair river has
a lot of sandy bottom. Part of the appearance of turbidity in some places is
actually the shallow sandy bottom showing through. Also, some of the the
sand gets picked up by the water. This is especially true when its stormy or
where the current is swift.

BTW Lake Superior is fairly turbid where the shore is sandy, especially when
the water is stirred up by the weather. Especially true where we hiked this
fall between Grand Marais and the Two Hearted River. We had a gale one
night. We filtered our drinking water and cleaned the filter maybe three
times in 8 days.

AFAIK the Saint Mary's river has rock bottom and shore upstream by Superior
where its generally clear, but it gets more turbid as it approaches Drummond
Island and Lake Huron.


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"Arny Krueger" wrote

Hey, I live in a community that prizes status
symbols - houses, cars, boats, degrees club
memberships. I get that.


Yes, I was in your neck of the woods, Grosse
Pointe Yacht Club for a wedding last year.


I guess they are upgrading the harbor.

The St. Clair River area seems like some
pretty boring boating. No open water for 15 miles
in either direction. Boats pace upriver and then
down river. The bikini-girls on the larger cruisers
were nice viewing. I passed a dive shop in the
area, how does he stay in business?


BTW Lake Superior is fairly turbid where the
shore is sandy, especially when the water is
stirred up by the weather. Especially true
where we hiked this fall between Grand Marais
and the Two Hearted River. We had a gale one
night.

The Two Hearted River is notorious for plagues
of black flies in the spring to mid summer.

"gale one night"... been there, on the Canadian
shore of Superior. Even with all the stakes tied
to the tent's storm cover the wind pushed the
tent walls inward. To noisy to sleep, can't walk
around because of all the sand in the wind and
it is to cold to be outside of a sleeping bag.
And unfortunately one has to urinate lot when
you are not moving around and the body
core temp is below optimal.

That's right up there with spending the better
part of 10 days camping in the rain on Superior
Eastern shoreline.


AFAIK the Saint Mary's river has rock bottom
and shore upstream by Superior where its
generally clear, but it gets more turbid as it
approaches Drummond Island and Lake Huron.

I've canoed the area between the Sault and
Neebish Island. Near the locks the bottom is
blasted rock and the channel is very narrow
in spots. Carriers pass with only a few feet
under the keel. Passed the loaded down-bound
Roger Blough (858' ) in such a channel.
28,400 bhp makes for an interesting Doppler
effect off the craggy rock bottom to the canoe's
bottom to mine.









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"Powell" said:

OK, Im looking for RCA/RCA cables. What
makes and models of RCA to RCA cables meet
your personal standards? My specifications,
when possible, would include; must be fully
shielded, 5 nines copper, connectors with
excellent surface contact but will release
without tearing off female RCA, significant strain
relief, solid core not stranded, consistent
sounding from component to component, and
not impedance sensitive. So your short list of
cost effective cables would include what
makes and models, Arny?



Can you solder?
Then get a few meters of RG58U coax, and some WBT connectors with
twistable surround that will clamp on the receptacle.
A 1 meter stereo pair will set you back about $26 (with the connectors
being about $8 each).

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Sander deWaal wrote:
"Powell" said:

OK, I'm looking for RCA/RCA cables. What
makes and models of RCA to RCA cables meet
your personal standards? My specifications,
when possible, would include; must be fully
shielded, 5 nines copper, connectors with
excellent surface contact but will release
without tearing off female RCA, significant strain
relief, solid core not stranded, consistent
sounding from component to component, and
not impedance sensitive. So your short list of
cost effective cables would include what
makes and models, Arny?



Can you solder?
Then get a few meters of RG58U coax, and some WBT connectors with
twistable surround that will clamp on the receptacle.
A 1 meter stereo pair will set you back about $26 (with the connectors
being about $8 each).


I made a set of those about 20 years ago. Too stiff and didn't sound
any different so I put 'em in my box o spare cables and there they rest
to this day .

ScottW

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