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The long-awaited Adobe Audition 2.0 upgrade has been pre-announced by Amazon
in the UK!

I'm copying a lot of text here because the original source page may
disappear if it is a mistake.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...672931-9863031

US cost of this significant upgrade may be around $150.

"Low-latency mixing with unlimited tracks: enjoy rapid response as you
record and mix with a new, powerful low-latency mixing engine

*The Biggie*

"ASIO support: work with high-performance, ASIO-driven audio devices, which
operate with very low latency and enhance performance by enabling features
such as live input monitoring

Rumors come true:

"Audible scrubbing: Quickly find the audio you want to edit using two modes
of audible scrubbing. Tape-style scrubbing enables you to find
hard-to-locate edit points, and shuttle-style scrubbing allows you scan
through your audio rapidly

Upgraded dynamics processing:

"Analog-modeled Multiband Compressor: Control dynamics, adjust loudness, and
master your mixes with multiband precision. Give bass and drums punch while
allowing your vocals to push through the entire mix

Improved control surface support:

"Recordable parameter automation with external hardware support Move volume,
pan, and effects controls as you listen, and record changes to your mix in
real time. Use external hardware controllers to make changes, which appear
as editable envelopes in the timeline

"New tools for mastering Use the innovative Spectral Pan and Phase display
modes to analyze your audio, the Mastering Rack in Edit View to apply
multiple effects simultaneously, and improved phase and frequency analysis
tools

The recently-added spectral editing feature gets more functionality:

"New Spectral Frequency Display tools In Spectral Frequency Display, use the
new Lasso tool to create a selection of any shape, adjust the color bar and
resolution to better isolate a specific frequency range, and use the
logarithmic display option to increase the visibility of lower frequencies

"Broader video format support Edit soundtracks for video and then export the
enhanced video in AVI, MPEG, DV, or WMV format

"Optimized performance Experience dramatic performance upgrades up to three
times faster for some features and optimized use of hard-drive space.


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Arny Krueger wrote:
The long-awaited Adobe Audition 2.0 upgrade has been pre-announced by Amazon
in the UK!


Wow! So much for our concerns about it becoming an orphan at Adobe. :-)


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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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The long-awaited Adobe Audition 2.0 upgrade has been pre-announced by
Amazon in the UK!

I'm copying a lot of text here because the original source page may
disappear if it is a mistake.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...672931-9863031


....which appears to have happened.


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"Arny Krueger" wrote:

The long-awaited Adobe Audition 2.0 upgrade has been pre-announced by
Amazon in the UK!


(list of new features snipped for brevity)

Audition is just getting these functions NOW?

I just picked up a "significant upgrade" for a system that already did
all that, and it cost only $95 including two free plugs worth around
$1000 at full retail.

I'm becoming somewhat suspect of the utility and cost-effectiveness of
the Adobe product.

--
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- Lorin David Schultz
in the control room
making even bad news sound good

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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The long-awaited Adobe Audition 2.0 upgrade has been pre-announced by
Amazon in the UK!

I'm copying a lot of text here because the original source page may
disappear if it is a mistake.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...672931-9863031


...which appears to have happened.


But has been augmented by the following:

http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/01/a...effects-7.html

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3...screenshot.jpg

http://www.dmnforums.com/cgi-bin/rea...postid=28971#4

Claimed release date 1/17/2006




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Arny Krueger wrote:

Claimed release date 1/17/2006


Just in time for the NAMM show, which starts on the 19th. Occasionally
leaks get out. Sometimes they're plugged, sometimes not, and sometimes
only the most obvious leaks get plugged. In this case, Amazon took the
announcement down, but not before some blogger saw it.

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Hi Lorin,

For what it's worth, while Audition lags behind other apps in some
areas, it's been very innovative in others over the years. I realize
these things are emotional rather than logical sometimes. But I really,
really like Audition. I've used it for over 10 years, and it does so
many things EXACTLY how I want to do them that I can't stop using it. I
bought Samplitude years ago, and it's become my primary multitrack and
mixdown app. But I curse and swear at it often. And when I use Audition
(as I often do), it just works. Different tools, different tasks.

Dean

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"Lorin David Schultz" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote:

The long-awaited Adobe Audition 2.0 upgrade has been pre-announced by
Amazon in the UK!


(list of new features snipped for brevity)

Audition is just getting these functions NOW?


The biggie is ASIO which is admittedly one of those "why did they wait this
long" things.

I just picked up a "significant upgrade" for a system that already did all
that, and it cost only $95 including two free plugs worth around $1000 at
full retail.


Well that brings up another one of Audition's strengths - value. It's never
been as expensive as a lot of its competition, and upgrades have been
reasonably-priced. Full package price street prices under $300.

Audition is not Nuendo, but it is only about 1/7 the price while doing a lot
more than 1/7 of Nuendo does.

I'm becoming somewhat suspect of the utility and cost-effectiveness of the
Adobe product.


Well one of the things about Audition and its predecessor CEP, is that a lot
of folks have had it for years and felt the need for no *plugs*. There's
always been an extensive range of EFX built-in.

Audition has had a 32 bit floating point tracking and mixing engine for all
of this century and a couple-three years of the last. In contrast some high
end competition just got updated to be comparable in only the past few
years.

Other high end competition was hyping their newly-added ability to do 192
KHz sampling just a few years back, while Audition has supported sample
rates up to 10 MHz, again for this entire century and a couple-three years
of the last.





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Hi Arny,

Yup, the original Cool Edit Pro (circa 1997, I believe) had support for
high sample rates and used 32-bit float. And don't forget the various
integrated noise reduction tools very early on, which compared to
others selling for many times the price of the product by themselves.
And shortly after, the tool for repairing digital overload distortion
(name eludes me right now, I'm at work). I think that has been around
since 1998 or so, but there are still products that don't have it, or
do it nearly as well. Verrrry slick. Background mixing from day 1.
Integrated IR capabilities way back when. Spectral view. On and on.
Like you mentioned, lagging in ASIO support and support for control
surfaces, way ahead of the curve in other ways.

Cool Edit Pro was one a rare product. Clean, pristine audio and
innovative. IMO it never got the respect it deserved from
"professionals" because of the price tag and the silly name. But it
always has done so many things in ways that other products never got
right, or even thought of doing.

Dean

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"drichard" wrote in message
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Hi Arny,

Yup, the original Cool Edit Pro (circa 1997, I believe) had support for
high sample rates and used 32-bit float. And don't forget the various
integrated noise reduction tools very early on, which compared to
others selling for many times the price of the product by themselves.
And shortly after, the tool for repairing digital overload distortion
(name eludes me right now, I'm at work). I think that has been around
since 1998 or so, but there are still products that don't have it, or
do it nearly as well. Verrrry slick. Background mixing from day 1.
Integrated IR capabilities way back when. Spectral view. On and on.
Like you mentioned, lagging in ASIO support and support for control
surfaces, way ahead of the curve in other ways.

Cool Edit Pro was one a rare product. Clean, pristine audio and
innovative. IMO it never got the respect it deserved from
"professionals" because of the price tag and the silly name. But it
always has done so many things in ways that other products never got
right, or even thought of doing.

Dean


Ditto! Ditto! Ditto!! Okay, I'm emotional about it. I've used it since the
multi-track version was first released. In addition to using CEP/Audition
in my own studio, I also oversee sessions in other studios primarily using
ProTools. If I had a studio earning its living with a diverse clientele I
would use ProTools, too, because of its "Star" value. But, I often find
myself looking over an engineer's shoulder and thinking, "&*&^%&*^ I'd be
done by now and tipping a cold one if I were in my own studio using
Audition." Not for everything, maybe, but often.

Steve King




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Lorin David Schultz wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote:
The long-awaited Adobe Audition 2.0 upgrade has been pre-announced by
Amazon in the UK!


(list of new features snipped for brevity)

Audition is just getting these functions NOW?


Yeah, after once being very innovative it went through several years of
doldrums when it seemed it's author had lost interest. Adobe appears to
have the interest that Syntrillium had lost and is working to catch back up.


Bob
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Arny Krueger wrote:

Audition is not Nuendo, but it is only about 1/7 the price while doing a lot
more than 1/7 of Nuendo does.


Arny, how do you see it as being behind Nuendo? I have no experience
with that product.


Bob
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1998 at Lucent Bell Labs my boss recomended and I bought Cool Edit to
analyze / edit cellular audio files. Many upgrades and now at Motorola
I still love and use Audition 1.0 daily. I Highly recomend it. YMMV

Kevin T

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Hi Bob,

The original author, David Johnston, was extremely bright and very
innovative. He was passionate about the integrity of the audio, and
often was able to "think outside the box" when creating new tools and
ways to accomplish tasks. Initially CEP was entirely David's creation,
and it was pretty much a one-man show for quite a while. I think that
as CEP grew he was forced to spend more time on the business side and
forced to turn some of the programming tasks over to others. And that's
when it started to lose that innovative feel and seemed to lag a bit.

Still a great app.

Dean

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"Bob Cain" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:

Audition is not Nuendo, but it is only about 1/7 the price while doing a
lot more than 1/7 of Nuendo does.


Arny, how do you see it as being behind Nuendo? I have no experience with
that product.


My only experience with Nuendo is based on a audio computer I installed at a
local college (actually, my alma mater). Ironically, we integrated and
wrung-out the system with Audition, even though the client was using Nuendo
(educational discount, natch). Nuendo showed up late in the install
process.

Other than making sure that the hardware worked with Nuendo, I don't have a
lot of experience with it. I suggest you read the vendor specs:

http://www.steinberg.de/ProductPage_...&Langue_ID= 2

The first thing I noticed first was the apparent abilities to do a lot of
neat things over a LAN. There appears to be lots of MIDI support, but I'm
really unfamiliar with MIDI.




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Hi Bob,

The original author, David Johnston, was extremely bright and very
innovative. He was passionate about the integrity of the audio, and
often was able to "think outside the box" when creating new tools and
ways to accomplish tasks. Initially CEP was entirely David's creation,
and it was pretty much a one-man show for quite a while. I think that
as CEP grew he was forced to spend more time on the business side and
forced to turn some of the programming tasks over to others. And that's
when it started to lose that innovative feel and seemed to lag a bit.

Still a great app.


My take is that David Johnson did a good job of leveraging the areas of
programming where he had his greatest expertise into a great product.
However, no one programmer can master all types of programming.


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drichard wrote:
Hi Bob,

The original author, David Johnston, was extremely bright and very
innovative. He was passionate about the integrity of the audio, and
often was able to "think outside the box" when creating new tools and
ways to accomplish tasks. Initially CEP was entirely David's creation,
and it was pretty much a one-man show for quite a while. I think that
as CEP grew he was forced to spend more time on the business side and
forced to turn some of the programming tasks over to others. And that's
when it started to lose that innovative feel and seemed to lag a bit.


I think you've nailed the situation. I concur with your assessment of
David and the product. He was a tad prickly when it came to criticism
but that doesn't diminish his creative abilities nor his implementation
integrity.


Bob
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