Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept, but you
certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it computer based.


Kind regards & Seasons Greetings

Peter Larsen



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Peter Larsen said:

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept [aBxism], but you
certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it computer based.

..... if all you want to test is computer-based snippets of sounds
without an actual audio system.

"George M. Middius" wrote:

Peter Larsen said:

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept [aBxism],
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it computer
based.

.... if all you want to test is computer-based snippets of sounds
without an actual audio system.

Quality audio today is computer based and an actual audio system
consisting of a computer, a power amp and a pair of loudspeakers is very
cost efficient. You are however quite right that it is for comparing
digitized audio. Some months ago I was on a listening panel listening to
alternative versions of the new Elberg MD12 MK2, see:

http://vadlyd.dk/English/RIAA_and_78_RPM_preamp.html

tests were blind and remote, ie. all participants listened to a couple
of CD's with audio from the different versions that were betatested and
rated them. A very procedure because the entire panel could listen on
each their preferred playback systems.


Kind regards & Seasons Greetings

Peter Larsen

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"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept, but you
certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it computer based.


Well, at least he stole it globally.


Cheers,

Margaret

"Peter Larsen" wrote in
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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.

Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.

Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX Comparator and did the
first ABX test. You can find Clark's phone at his DLC Design web site:

http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Peter Larsen" wrote in
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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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What have you ever done for audio, Arny?

Globally? ABX.

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.

Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.

Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX Comparator and did
the first ABX test. You can find Clark's phone at his DLC Design web site:

http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/


This Clark seems to employ your master and guardian Nousaine. Therefore,
he's not qualified to discuss you or your alleged accomplishments. Sorry to
bust you, Arnii.

Cheers,

Margaret

Arny Krueger wrote:

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.

Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.

Interesting. I should obviously have read your site with more care.

Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX Comparator
and did the first ABX test. You can find Clark's phone at his DLC
Design web site:

http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/

A perhaps more useful link is:

http://www.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx.htm

since it tells the story. I had underestimated your part in this, thank
you for clearing it up.


Kind regards & Seasons Greetings

Peter Larsen

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"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.

Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.

Interesting. I should obviously have read your site with more care.


Don't overlook the two second castanet snippets!



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Peter Larsen wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote:


Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.



Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.


Interesting. I should obviously have read your site with more care.


Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX Comparator
and did the first ABX test. You can find Clark's phone at his DLC
Design web site:



http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/


A perhaps more useful link is:

http://www.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx.htm

since it tells the story. I had underestimated your part in this, thank
you for clearing it up.

Thanks you for the post Peter as it is informative as to who "invented"
this ABX.




Kind regards & Seasons Greetings

Peter Larsen

"Robert McTigue" wrote in
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Peter Larsen wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote:


Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.



Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.


Interesting. I should obviously have read your site with
more care.
Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX
Comparator and did the first ABX test. You can find
Clark's phone at his DLC Design web site:



http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/


A perhaps more useful link is:

http://www.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx.htm

since it tells the story. I had underestimated your part
in this, thank you for clearing it up.

Thanks you for the post Peter as it is informative as to
who "invented" this ABX.

My choice of wording w/r/t is very careful because the development of ABX
was done by a committee. The committee specs were that the test was going to
be Double Blind, able to be self-administered, and easy to use. I did all
the hands-on development, added a lot of innovations of my own, and I did
the alpha testing.

We had several amp switching boxes on hand to start with that missed spec by
miles and miles. There were three distinct generations of the box, the last
of which was a mixture of CMOS and TTL.

It took several years of additional work which I did solo, to develop a
suitable relay box for actually routing the signals. The final product was
capable of switching anything from phono inputs to mic inputs to line-level
signals to speaker-level signals without any audible transients of any kind.
All in one box, that we sold for $400.

"Peter Larsen" wrote in
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Arny Krueger wrote:

Arny, I am not _really_ sure you invented that concept,
but you certainly promoted it and made it easy to do it
computer based.

Check the ABX JAES paper by Clark. I'm in it.

Interesting. I should obviously have read your site with
more care.

Ask Clark - he'll tell you that I built the first ABX
Comparator and did the first ABX test. You can find
Clark's phone at his DLC Design web site:

http://www.dlcdesignaudio.com/

A perhaps more useful link is:

http://www.provide.net/~djcarlst/abx.htm

since it tells the story. I had underestimated your part
in this, thank you for clearing it up.

It seems to be a common misapprehension.

You're almost always very fair, Peter.