"George Middius" wrote in message
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Now Mickey, just because I humiliate you several times a week doesn't mean
I
have a ready stock of filthy porn. It wasn't me who gave you swirlies in
junior
high, it wasn't me who gave you wedgies in gym class, and it wasn't me who
ratted you out for sniffing propellant in the boys' room.


but it 'could have been you'; therefore, Mikey is justified
in comitting all sorts of atrocities upon you.

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"George Middius" wrote in message
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Mikey Bug-Eater eyes a snack. Oops, too slow. He stirs again. Will he
make the
grab this time?

Nothing wrong with spending whatever someone wants for their gear, but

Except when you know about it.

people should be aware of the fact that it doesn't get them better sound
as
the manufacturers and SP type reviewers would like us to believe.

Nobody wants you to believe anything. All they want is for you to buy
their
stuff.

Then why all the agitprop about better sound?


Apparently you believe nobody can enjoy their stereo unless they've been
brainwashed. Too bad your brain is too pickled to respond to ordinary
stimuli.

Wrong again, so far you're batting a thousand.

I think people should be informed, after that whatever decision they make
is on them.

The problem is that they are being told by reviewers that stuff sounds
different when it can't actually be demonstrated that is so. Worse, is
they are being told that snake oil devices can improve the sound. I just
don't believe reviewers should be involved in helping to commit fraud.
They should subject all tweaks to some kind of testing to see if does
anything, since any improvement would include a FR variation, or some
other measurable effect. That's part of the normal purview of hobby
magazines, testing for the advertised effects.


Any advertiser comments as to sound should be taken at face value. Like
adds for food or beer, (tastes best, less filling, etc.). Any fool
knows that. Well, evidently there is "at least" one fool named duh...Mikey
who doesn't.
Your view of the role of hobby magazines is different than mine. I expect
ads to be less than structly honest. I expect magazines that review any
kind of technology, to subject the things they critique, to some basic
testing to let their readers know what usefulness a given device may have.

Praising something without testing to dertermine that the device can
actually do anything, is not only a disservice, but it is aiding and
abetting fraud.

"George Middius" wrote in message
...



Where's Forrest Gump when we need him? ;-)

Nobody wants you to believe anything. All they want is for you to buy
their stuff.

Then why all the agitprop about better sound?

Who taught you that word, Mickey? Robert has been trying to school you in
avoiding these explosions of language abuse.

In your persistent delusional state, you believe that marketing is
theology. In
reality, it's entirely mundane. Grow up.


Marketing is about selling, reviewing is about showing the efficacy or lack
of for the device being reviewed. I don't expect reviewers to be part of
the marketing.

Apparently you believe nobody can enjoy their stereo unless they've been
brainwashed. Too bad your brain is too pickled to respond to ordinary
stimuli.

Wrong again, so far you're batting a thousand.

No, I'm quite right. Your patent inability to distinguish marketing from
proselytizing proves my point.


Marketing is what the advertisers pay for. Reviews are supposed to be
independent of that.

I think people should be informed, after that whatever decision they make
is
on them.

If they want to be informed, that's their choice. It's not up to marketers
to
inform buyers. Their role is to inflame buyers' interest in their
products.

Reviewers aren't supposed to be part of the marketing.

The problem is that they are being told by reviewers that stuff sounds
different when it can't actually be demonstrated that is so.

You're just plain dumb. No two ways about that.


Nasty comments from you are a badge of honor for me George, since you have
not a clue about audio technology, and have made your sole purpose on RAO
one of name calling an attacks against any sort of discussion of the
technical merits of audio gear.

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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.
I am completely un-dogmatic. I update my ideas and beliefs when there is
a reason to do so.


Never mind that they don't work.

Are you saying I should call them "Moreins?"

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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Then you must be a real high end piece, Mikey, as you are a perfect
parrot
of Arny Krueger.

So, by your reckoning, it's bad to reapeat the truth? What diffference
does it make who said it, as long as it is the truth?


Was Arnie telling the truth when he accused Atkinson of emailing him
kiddie porn, or was Arnie telling the truth when he accused George
Middius
of emailing him kiddie pron, or was Arnie telling the truth when he
accused
Dave Weil of emailing him kiddie porn, or Was Arnie telling the truth
when
he accused Scot Wheeler of emailing him kiddie porn, or was Arnie
telling the
truth when he accused me of emailing him kiddie porn. Was Arnie telling
the truth that ANYBODY sent him kiddie porn. Didn't Arny later say that
a MSP
investigator told him it was not kiddie porn? Wouldn't it make
sense that one would not make such hideous accusations if
it weren't obvious that the porn in question was kiddie porn?
Wouldn't it be wonderful if there were absoultely no reason due to
anything that happened on RAO, could make Arny think someone would be
despicable enough to do such a thing?

The fact is that there are people like George, for whom such behavior
seems quite likely.


So, you are excusing Arny for making groundless
accusations about sending kiddie porn just because he 'thinks' someone
'might' do it.
I am saying that such things must be viewed in their entire context.

"George Middius" wrote in message
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Clyde Slick said to duh-Mikey:

The fact is that there are people like George, for whom such behavior
seems quite likely.

Now Mickey, just because I humiliate you several times a week doesn't mean
I
have a ready stock of filthy porn.

I'm sure you would never share.

It wasn't me who gave you swirlies in junior
high, it wasn't me who gave you wedgies in gym class, and it wasn't me who
ratted you out for sniffing propellant in the boys' room.


Nice to know you had no part in things thst never happened.

So, you are excusing Arny for making groundless
accusations about sending kiddie porn just because he 'thinks' someone
'might' do it.

As we sit here making fun of the Bug Eater, Mickey is preparing for Saint
Arnii's canonization. His assignment is very important -- he has to
expunge all
of Arnii's arrest records, reverse all the restraining orders, and get 3
different doctors to declare Arnii fully sane.


Arnii? Who the **** is Arnii?

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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

" wrote in message
nk.net...

"George Middius" wrote in message
...


Mikey Bug-Eater eyes a snack. Oops, too slow. He stirs again. Will he
make the
grab this time?

Nothing wrong with spending whatever someone wants for their gear, but

Except when you know about it.

people should be aware of the fact that it doesn't get them better
sound as
the manufacturers and SP type reviewers would like us to believe.

Nobody wants you to believe anything. All they want is for you to buy
their
stuff.

Then why all the agitprop about better sound?


Apparently you believe nobody can enjoy their stereo unless they've
been
brainwashed. Too bad your brain is too pickled to respond to ordinary
stimuli.

Wrong again, so far you're batting a thousand.

I think people should be informed, after that whatever decision they
make is on them.

The problem is that they are being told by reviewers that stuff sounds
different when it can't actually be demonstrated that is so. Worse, is
they are being told that snake oil devices can improve the sound. I
just don't believe reviewers should be involved in helping to commit
fraud. They should subject all tweaks to some kind of testing to see if
does anything, since any improvement would include a FR variation, or
some other measurable effect. That's part of the normal purview of
hobby magazines, testing for the advertised effects.


Any advertiser comments as to sound should be taken at face value. Like
adds for food or beer, (tastes best, less filling, etc.). Any fool
knows that. Well, evidently there is "at least" one fool named
duh...Mikey who doesn't.
Your view of the role of hobby magazines is different than mine. I expect
ads to be less than structly honest. I expect magazines that review any
kind of technology, to subject the things they critique, to some basic
testing to let their readers know what usefulness a given device may have.

Praising something without testing to dertermine that the device can
actually do anything, is not only a disservice, but it is aiding and
abetting fraud.

The high end industry is mere pocket change. It's time for you
to hit the big boys. Go after food, drink, cosmetics, perfumes,
aand most of all, especially toothpaste.

" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

" wrote in message
ink.net...


.
I am completely un-dogmatic. I update my ideas and beliefs when there
is a reason to do so.


Never mind that they don't work.

Are you saying I should call them "Moreins?"

You should call them moronic. The rest of us do.

Robert Morein wrote:
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

" wrote in message
ink.net...


.
I am completely un-dogmatic. I update my ideas and beliefs when there
is
a reason to do so.


Never mind that they don't work.

His brain obviously isn't running Genuine Windows.

Why would you want to be unconscious half the time and make yourself
vulnerable to viruses?

" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

" wrote in message
nk.net...


Then you must be a real high end piece, Mikey, as you are a perfect
parrot
of Arny Krueger.

So, by your reckoning, it's bad to reapeat the truth? What
diffference does it make who said it, as long as it is the truth?


Was Arnie telling the truth when he accused Atkinson of emailing him
kiddie porn, or was Arnie telling the truth when he accused George
Middius
of emailing him kiddie pron, or was Arnie telling the truth when he
accused
Dave Weil of emailing him kiddie porn, or Was Arnie telling the truth
when
he accused Scot Wheeler of emailing him kiddie porn, or was Arnie
telling the
truth when he accused me of emailing him kiddie porn. Was Arnie telling
the truth that ANYBODY sent him kiddie porn. Didn't Arny later say that
a MSP
investigator told him it was not kiddie porn? Wouldn't it make
sense that one would not make such hideous accusations if
it weren't obvious that the porn in question was kiddie porn?
Wouldn't it be wonderful if there were absoultely no reason due to
anything that happened on RAO, could make Arny think someone would be
despicable enough to do such a thing?

The fact is that there are people like George, for whom such behavior
seems quite likely.


So, you are excusing Arny for making groundless
accusations about sending kiddie porn just because he 'thinks' someone
'might' do it.
I am saying that such things must be viewed in their entire context.

Tell us your excuse(s) that justify such behavior by Arny.
I will note, in your defense, that you are giving tacit acknowledgement
that Arny willingly and knowingly made multiple false
charges in this regard. The issue is now whether Arny had some
excuse(s) that justify willful false charges of disseminating kiddie porn.
Well, "at least" its a start for you, a step in the right direction.

"Ayn Marx" wrote in message
ups.com...

Robert Morein wrote:
"Mr.T" MrT@home wrote in message
u...

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...
The Chinese have too large a potential labor pool. This will keep
labor
costs low for a much longer period of time than the American economy
can
tolerate.

What do you mean tolerate? Like Australia, the USA has already given up
on
most low skill manufacturing AFAIK. All the growth is in service
industries.
Meanwhile we enjoy very low cost clothes, electronics etc.

MrT.

We have a huge balance of payments deficit. Eventually, American currency
will fall. Henry Kaufman, a well known authority on interest rates, has
written an essay on why American currency valuation remains high. The one
precarious reason is that the dollar remains the dominant reserve
currency.
Eventually, it will be replaced by other currencies. Then, inflow of
money
into American economic interests will reverse.

Over the long term, floating currencies seek values that are stable.
Stability is possible only if the amount of the currency in circulation
is
stable, or increases at a sufficiently slow rate as to represent an
acceptable rate of inflation. The current model of the American economy,
which is very weak in the value of manufactured exports, does not allow
this.

The fallacy of the "service economy" is the assumption that it represents
something indispensable to the global economy. All spheres of an economy
are
subject to international competitive pressures. Domestic employment in
high
tech sectors of the service economy is already eroding to India. This is
not
going to stop.

The weakness of our ability to support the value of the dollar is masked
by
two things: the status of the dollar as the primary reserve currency, and
the willingness of the Asian rim to fuel their own prosperity with
manufactured exports that buy them dollars. By 2020, however, China's
domestic bank deposits will exceed ours. At that point, fifteen years
from
now, the shadow of the eclipse will begin to cover America. The
realization
that China has acceeded to global economic dominance will cause the
attraction of the dollar as a reserve currency to rapidly fade. But there
will be a huge dollar denominated debt that must be repaid. The
traditional
manner to deal with such debt is to repay it in cheaper money. Cheaper
money
is achieved by massive inflation.

Sadly, our politicians are willing to mortage our future in return for
the
privilege of driving fancy, gas guzzling SUVs. There is also the further
issue, more difficult to deal with, of job export. Within a few years,
the
numbers of the dispossessed may grow to a significant political movement.

Mr M. I pressume you are an American, If so congratulations in being
one of the very few I've encountered willing to be honest when
discussing the US economy. Thank You.

I am American.
The others are not dishonest. They are ignorant. It's simply that the
country has fallen into a state of self-delusion. It's true that there is a
lack of responsibility at the top. But don't forget that self-delusion is
not solely the province of Americans. Take China, for example. That country
has the opportunity to build an economy from the ground up that would not be
oil based. But it's not doing that. Driven by the desires of the newly rich
and the pressure from below to improve the incredibly poor living conditions
of the peasantry, China embraces oil.

The deeper problem seems independent of political systems. We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy and
insatiable desire to procreate.

wrote:
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paul packer wrote:
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:30:26 GMT, "
wrote:


That's pretty much been my point for some time. If you pay more for an
amp,
CD player, or whatever, you don't get better sound, you get bragging
rights.
Once you achieve flat response without any form of audible distortion or
noise, and the ability to drive difficult loads, you have a perfect
piece of
equipment. Adding heavy faceplates or designer caps, and coils, doesn't
really get you better sound, but it might get you a longer product life.

So you're saying that an amp costing $5000 is not going to sound any
better than one costing $300 providing both measure well and drive
difficult loads? Have you tested this theory? Have you truly satisfied
yourself that nothing is to be gained by spending more? If not your
assertion means nothing.

I can predict the answer. It will say something about ABXing
"proving" his beliefs. Except, of course, that so far (mere 40 years
of ABX history) every published report, on everything in audio,
resulted in "It all sounds the same" outcome- as long as ABX was the
test protocol. ("Published" means at least accepted by a mag. if not by
a peer reviewed journal. Web free=for=all does not qualify)


Why do you contiue this lie, even after you posted the evidence that refutes
it?

Since they continue to promote it one must assume that indeed to
those true believers everything does sound the same.
Ludovic Mirabel

One must conclude that the truth bothers you so much that you are willing to
keep repeating the same lie over and over. Why is that?
__________________________________________________ _____
You're under notice . I'll repeat my "lie" every time you
bring up your ABX "test" as your final, clinching argument.
Your taking the leaf out of the vocabulary of the RAO thugs
will not deter me.
What would do it is one single REFERENCE to a published
(web gossip does not apply) ABX test with a panel of 10 or more
listeners comparing any roughly comparable audio components whatsover
with a positive outcome:."Postive" means "Yes there was a difference"
as a statistically valid verdict by the majority of panelists. Take
loudspeakers or cartridges if you want..
Once you give such a reference you will not need to
shout "lie". You'll have a convert. I'll get busy ABXing .
Till then Ludovic Mirabel
P.S. Look up "reference" in your Webster or Oxford

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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" wrote in message
ink.net...

[snip]
So, you are excusing Arny for making groundless
accusations about sending kiddie porn just because he 'thinks' someone
'might' do it.
I am saying that such things must be viewed in their entire context.

Tell us your excuse(s) that justify such behavior by Arny.
I will note, in your defense, that you are giving tacit acknowledgement
that Arny willingly and knowingly made multiple false
charges in this regard. The issue is now whether Arny had some
excuse(s) that justify willful false charges of disseminating kiddie porn.
Well, "at least" its a start for you, a step in the right direction.
There can be NO EXCUSE for Arny Krueger's reprehensible behavior, or for
that of his evil stooge, Mike McKelvy, a.k.a. the "mckelviphibian".

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
news

"Ayn Marx" wrote in message
ups.com...

Robert Morein wrote:
"Mr.T" MrT@home wrote in message
u...

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...
The Chinese have too large a potential labor pool. This will keep
labor
costs low for a much longer period of time than the American economy
can
tolerate.

What do you mean tolerate? Like Australia, the USA has already given
up on
most low skill manufacturing AFAIK. All the growth is in service
industries.
Meanwhile we enjoy very low cost clothes, electronics etc.

MrT.

We have a huge balance of payments deficit. Eventually, American
currency
will fall. Henry Kaufman, a well known authority on interest rates, has
written an essay on why American currency valuation remains high. The
one
precarious reason is that the dollar remains the dominant reserve
currency.
Eventually, it will be replaced by other currencies. Then, inflow of
money
into American economic interests will reverse.

Over the long term, floating currencies seek values that are stable.
Stability is possible only if the amount of the currency in circulation
is
stable, or increases at a sufficiently slow rate as to represent an
acceptable rate of inflation. The current model of the American economy,
which is very weak in the value of manufactured exports, does not allow
this.

The fallacy of the "service economy" is the assumption that it
represents
something indispensable to the global economy. All spheres of an economy
are
subject to international competitive pressures. Domestic employment in
high
tech sectors of the service economy is already eroding to India. This is
not
going to stop.

The weakness of our ability to support the value of the dollar is masked
by
two things: the status of the dollar as the primary reserve currency,
and
the willingness of the Asian rim to fuel their own prosperity with
manufactured exports that buy them dollars. By 2020, however, China's
domestic bank deposits will exceed ours. At that point, fifteen years
from
now, the shadow of the eclipse will begin to cover America. The
realization
that China has acceeded to global economic dominance will cause the
attraction of the dollar as a reserve currency to rapidly fade. But
there
will be a huge dollar denominated debt that must be repaid. The
traditional
manner to deal with such debt is to repay it in cheaper money. Cheaper
money
is achieved by massive inflation.

Sadly, our politicians are willing to mortage our future in return for
the
privilege of driving fancy, gas guzzling SUVs. There is also the further
issue, more difficult to deal with, of job export. Within a few years,
the
numbers of the dispossessed may grow to a significant political
movement.

Mr M. I pressume you are an American, If so congratulations in being
one of the very few I've encountered willing to be honest when
discussing the US economy. Thank You.

I am American.
The others are not dishonest. They are ignorant. It's simply that the
country has fallen into a state of self-delusion. It's true that there is
a lack of responsibility at the top. But don't forget that self-delusion
is not solely the province of Americans. Take China, for example. That
country has the opportunity to build an economy from the ground up that
would not be oil based. But it's not doing that. Driven by the desires of
the newly rich and the pressure from below to improve the incredibly poor
living conditions of the peasantry, China embraces oil.

The deeper problem seems independent of political systems. We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy
and insatiable desire to procreate.

I agree with you on this 100%

ScottW

"ScottW" wrote in message
news:2Fn_e.123019$Ep.28259@lakeread02...

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
news

"Ayn Marx" wrote in message
ups.com...

Robert Morein wrote:
"Mr.T" MrT@home wrote in message
u...

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...
The Chinese have too large a potential labor pool. This will keep
labor
costs low for a much longer period of time than the American economy
can
tolerate.

What do you mean tolerate? Like Australia, the USA has already given
up on
most low skill manufacturing AFAIK. All the growth is in service
industries.
Meanwhile we enjoy very low cost clothes, electronics etc.

MrT.

We have a huge balance of payments deficit. Eventually, American
currency
will fall. Henry Kaufman, a well known authority on interest rates, has
written an essay on why American currency valuation remains high. The
one
precarious reason is that the dollar remains the dominant reserve
currency.
Eventually, it will be replaced by other currencies. Then, inflow of
money
into American economic interests will reverse.

Over the long term, floating currencies seek values that are stable.
Stability is possible only if the amount of the currency in circulation
is
stable, or increases at a sufficiently slow rate as to represent an
acceptable rate of inflation. The current model of the American
economy,
which is very weak in the value of manufactured exports, does not allow
this.

The fallacy of the "service economy" is the assumption that it
represents
something indispensable to the global economy. All spheres of an
economy are
subject to international competitive pressures. Domestic employment in
high
tech sectors of the service economy is already eroding to India. This
is not
going to stop.

The weakness of our ability to support the value of the dollar is
masked by
two things: the status of the dollar as the primary reserve currency,
and
the willingness of the Asian rim to fuel their own prosperity with
manufactured exports that buy them dollars. By 2020, however, China's
domestic bank deposits will exceed ours. At that point, fifteen years
from
now, the shadow of the eclipse will begin to cover America. The
realization
that China has acceeded to global economic dominance will cause the
attraction of the dollar as a reserve currency to rapidly fade. But
there
will be a huge dollar denominated debt that must be repaid. The
traditional
manner to deal with such debt is to repay it in cheaper money. Cheaper
money
is achieved by massive inflation.

Sadly, our politicians are willing to mortage our future in return for
the
privilege of driving fancy, gas guzzling SUVs. There is also the
further
issue, more difficult to deal with, of job export. Within a few years,
the
numbers of the dispossessed may grow to a significant political
movement.

Mr M. I pressume you are an American, If so congratulations in being
one of the very few I've encountered willing to be honest when
discussing the US economy. Thank You.

I am American.
The others are not dishonest. They are ignorant. It's simply that the
country has fallen into a state of self-delusion. It's true that there is
a lack of responsibility at the top. But don't forget that self-delusion
is not solely the province of Americans. Take China, for example. That
country has the opportunity to build an economy from the ground up that
would not be oil based. But it's not doing that. Driven by the desires of
the newly rich and the pressure from below to improve the incredibly poor
living conditions of the peasantry, China embraces oil.

The deeper problem seems independent of political systems. We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy
and insatiable desire to procreate.

I agree with you on this 100%

ScottW
Alright, Scott! Slap me Five!

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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" wrote in message
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[snip]
So, you are excusing Arny for making groundless
accusations about sending kiddie porn just because he 'thinks' someone
'might' do it.
I am saying that such things must be viewed in their entire context.

Tell us your excuse(s) that justify such behavior by Arny.
I will note, in your defense, that you are giving tacit acknowledgement
that Arny willingly and knowingly made multiple false
charges in this regard. The issue is now whether Arny had some
excuse(s) that justify willful false charges of disseminating kiddie
porn.
Well, "at least" its a start for you, a step in the right direction.
There can be NO EXCUSE for Arny Krueger's reprehensible behavior, or for
that of his evil stooge, Mike McKelvy, a.k.a. the "mckelviphibian".
Or yours, ****head.

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
news

" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

" wrote in message
ink.net...


.
I am completely un-dogmatic. I update my ideas and beliefs when there
is a reason to do so.


Never mind that they don't work.

Are you saying I should call them "Moreins?"

You should call them moronic. The rest of us do.
Only when they differ from your own ideas which some here also consider
moronic.

"Ayn Marx" wrote in message
ups.com wrote:

We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy and
insatiable desire to procreate.

I've never had a desire to procreate at all. That's why I prefer to take it
up the ass.

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
.. .
"Ayn Marx" wrote in message
ups.com wrote:

We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy
and
insatiable desire to procreate.

I've never had a desire to procreate at all. That's why I prefer to take
it
up the ass.

Brian, is that an expression of your own tendencies?

" wrote in message
nk.net...

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You ask Mr. Morein :" You have a DBT that shows otherwise?"
Just to remind you that so far no one, and you least of all, referenced
a DBT that shows anything other thasn "It all sounds the same".
Whatever in audio is being compared.
Timje to reach for an argument from another barrel. Any in
sight?
Ludovic Mirabel


You are a gruunnt liar urrrghh, and the greeeek fact that you gruuuunt
yourself urrrghhh referenced greeeek a DBT where a difference gruuunt was
recorded urrrrgh just points greeeeek up how big an gruuunt idiot urrrrgh
you are greeeek.

Mikey, you are a mere amphibian, and you do not have a brain with higher
centers of thought. It would be impossible for you to know the difference
between truth and falsehood.

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 03:15:08 -0400, "Robert Morein"
wrote:


"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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"Ayn Marx" wrote in message
ups.com wrote:

We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy
and
insatiable desire to procreate.

I've never had a desire to procreate at all. That's why I prefer to take
it
up the ass.

Brian, is that an expression of your own tendencies?


Interesting expressions...but how do they relate to audio?

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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 03:15:08 -0400, "Robert Morein"
wrote:


"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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"Ayn Marx" wrote in message
ups.com wrote:

We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy
and
insatiable desire to procreate.

I've never had a desire to procreate at all. That's why I prefer to take
it
up the ass.

Brian, is that an expression of your own tendencies?

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:59:03 +1000, "Mr.T" MrT@home wrote:



At least China has a one child policy, so is doing something to stop it.

Forced abortions on Chinese women including late term abortions past
30 weeks is murder.

In
Australia we not only encourage higher levels of procreation, our women's
lobby complains loudly about China oppressing the right of women

so should you it's disgusting what China is doing.


to have as
many children as they can drop in their lifetime.

and Australia's population growth without immigration is.....-ve


MrT.

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
news
The others are not dishonest. They are ignorant.

Some are both.

It's simply that the
country has fallen into a state of self-delusion. It's true that there is
a
lack of responsibility at the top. But don't forget that self-delusion is
not solely the province of Americans.

Quite true, most countries seem to be just as bad.

Take China, for example. That country
has the opportunity to build an economy from the ground up that would not
be
oil based. But it's not doing that. Driven by the desires of the newly
rich
and the pressure from below to improve the incredibly poor living
conditions
of the peasantry, China embraces oil.

The deeper problem seems independent of political systems. We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy
and
insatiable desire to procreate.

At least China has a one child policy, so is doing something to stop it. In
Australia we not only encourage higher levels of procreation, our women's
lobby complains loudly about China oppressing the right of women to have as
many children as they can drop in their lifetime.

MrT.

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:36:36 +1000, "Mr.T" MrT@home wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
At least China has a one child policy, so is doing something to stop it.

Forced abortions on Chinese women including late term abortions past
30 weeks is murder.

Only go past 30 weeks when the woman tries to hide the fact. They have the
option of actually obeying the law. Sterialisation after the first child is
free.

so you agree with State sanctioned murder of inncocent babies..


So you'd prefer a few Billion more Chinese? What are *you* prepared to give
up for them?

so you agree with State sanctioned murder of inncocent babies....
after all they're only Chinese!!
Kill them before they can kill us!!


to have as
many children as they can drop in their lifetime.

and Australia's population growth without immigration is.....-ve

Which would be great! If the rest of the world was the same, the planet
might have some hope. With six billion and growing, it doesn't.

so you agree with State sanctioned murder of inncocent babies..
and no immigration..

MR T = White Australia Racist Nazi Bigot.

Got a dvd of "Triumph of the Will"???




MrT.

wrote in message
...
At least China has a one child policy, so is doing something to stop it.

Forced abortions on Chinese women including late term abortions past
30 weeks is murder.

Only go past 30 weeks when the woman tries to hide the fact. They have the
option of actually obeying the law. Sterialisation after the first child is
free.

In
Australia we not only encourage higher levels of procreation, our women's
lobby complains loudly about China oppressing the right of women

so should you it's disgusting what China is doing.

So you'd prefer a few Billion more Chinese? What are *you* prepared to give
up for them?

to have as
many children as they can drop in their lifetime.

and Australia's population growth without immigration is.....-ve

Which would be great! If the rest of the world was the same, the planet
might have some hope. With six billion and growing, it doesn't.

MrT.

One hasn't really built a tube amp unless one has wound all the
trannies though.....

What about digging iron ore out of the ground and melting it over a fire
to make the transformer core!!

"Mr.T" MrT@home wrote in message
u...

Mr. T.,
I respectfully suggest that it would not be in your interest, or anybody
else's to have a discussion with the notorious Brian L. McCarty, who posts
here as ", and under various other pseudonyms,
such as "OFFICIAL RAM BLUEBOOK VALUATION", and a wide variety of other
identities. He is a pest on rec.audio.marketplace, where he accuses innocent
sellers of variousmisdeeds. He appears to be a pathological liar, with
unknown motivations.

McCarty is the owner of websites http://www.coralseastudios.com, and
http://www.worldjazz.com, both of which have used fraudulent advertising in
attempts to attract investors. Both have been unsuccessful.

McCarty is an American expatriate, originally from the Chicago area, then LA
where he worked as a sound mixer, currently living in Cairns Australia,
where he manages the Baskin-Robbins
ice cream franchise located at
Shop G6, 59 The Esplanade
Cairns QLD 4870
07 4051 4034

McCarty lives in the Coral Sands apartment complex at 65 Vasey Esplanade,
Trinity beach, a bit north of metropolitan Cairns.

Baskin-Robbins Australia may be contacted at
.

Geoff said:

One hasn't really built a tube amp unless one has wound all the
trannies though.....

What about digging iron ore out of the ground and melting it over a fire
to make the transformer core!!

Not just iron ore. Aren't the best copper mines in South America? Nice
vacation.

Robert Morein wrote:

I am American.
The others are not dishonest. They are ignorant. It's simply that the
country has fallen into a state of self-delusion. It's true that there is a
lack of responsibility at the top. But don't forget that self-delusion is
not solely the province of Americans. Take China, for example. That country
has the opportunity to build an economy from the ground up that would not be
oil based.

How ?
Do you know exactly how many *billions* dollars USA have
invested in Chinese industry and infrastructure ?
I bet that more than 80% of the US money invested in China
are the money of your future pensions...
Why the US investors (and the others...) haven't chosen an
other type of energy ?
Ask Scott "The Môron" if he is ready to gamble his pension
on an hypothetic chinese development based on an hypothetic
source of energy different than oil.

But it's not doing that. Driven by the desires of the newly rich
and the pressure from below to improve the incredibly poor living conditions
of the peasantry, China embraces oil.

It's easy to say when you know that 300 millions of
Americans are consuming *25%* of the energy consumed in the
world

The deeper problem seems independent of political systems. We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy and
insatiable desire to procreate.

It's even not an organizational problem... It's just your
personal weakness multiply by 6 billions. ;-)

ScottW "The Môron" wrote:

"Robert Morein" wrote in message

I am American.
The others are not dishonest. They are ignorant. It's simply that the
country has fallen into a state of self-delusion. It's true that there is
a lack of responsibility at the top. But don't forget that self-delusion
is not solely the province of Americans. Take China, for example. That
country has the opportunity to build an economy from the ground up that
would not be oil based. But it's not doing that. Driven by the desires of
the newly rich and the pressure from below to improve the incredibly poor
living conditions of the peasantry, China embraces oil.

The deeper problem seems independent of political systems. We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy
and insatiable desire to procreate.


I agree with you on this 100%

Are you looking for some help for your children euthanasia ?

Robert Morein wrote:
"Ayn Marx" wrote in message
ups.com wrote:


We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy and
insatiable desire to procreate.


I've never had a desire to procreate at all. That's why I prefer to take it
up the ass.

George ?

duh-Mikey takes a bath with Oil of Irony.

You're just plain dumb. No two ways about that.

Nasty comments from you are a badge of honor for me George, since you have
not a clue about audio technology,

If you say so. Bear in mind G that the subject at hand is not technology but
marketing, and the auxiliary issue is how dumb you are.

and have made your sole purpose on RAO
one of name calling an attacks against any sort of discussion of the
technical merits of audio gear.

Is that what you believe, Mickey? You also believe that Arnii Krooger is an
exceedingly honest individual, that the aBXism religion is real science, and
that everything sounds the same. Nobody should be worried about your "thinking"
process overturning accepted wisdom in any area of human endeavor. ;-)

The Hive is losing its cohesion, and Mickey is coming unglued.

Arnii? Who the **** is Arnii?

I thought bugs provided the protein needed by humans for moderately efficient
brain activity. Are you on some kind of protein-blocking medication, Mickey?

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:58:03 -0700, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

I am American.
The others are not dishonest. They are ignorant. It's simply that the
country has fallen into a state of self-delusion. It's true that there is
a lack of responsibility at the top. But don't forget that self-delusion
is not solely the province of Americans. Take China, for example. That
country has the opportunity to build an economy from the ground up that
would not be oil based. But it's not doing that. Driven by the desires of
the newly rich and the pressure from below to improve the incredibly poor
living conditions of the peasantry, China embraces oil.

The deeper problem seems independent of political systems. We are on the
threshold of a wretched future, mandated by the world's greed for energy
and insatiable desire to procreate.

I agree with you on this 100%

ScottW

How's the SUV running? Or am I mistaken about your vehicle?

Robert Morein said:

The issue is now whether Arny had some
excuse(s) that justify willful false charges of disseminating kiddie porn.

There can be NO EXCUSE for Arny Krueger's reprehensible behavior, or for
that of his evil stooge, Mike McKelvy, a.k.a. the "mckelviphibian".


If Mickey were a hair smarter, he'd point out that Arnii is mentally ill and
appeal to the Normals' compassion when judging Mr. ****'s behavior.

The Bug Eater quickly abandons his principled stand against invective.

There can be NO EXCUSE for Arny Krueger's reprehensible behavior, or for
that of his evil stooge, Mike McKelvy, a.k.a. the "mckelviphibian".

Or yours, ****head.

Mickey, I just read another of your posts in which you whined about my "name
calling". Is your version of name-calling more socially acceptable than mind?
Please explain this so that I might begin to emulate your high standards.

Sluttie is in need of a dose of degradation.

George ?

Last time you asked me to drill you, I asked a couple of simple questions about
your proclivities. Do you like it doggie-style or spread-eagled? If your ass is
too hairy, I may require you to shave before you bend over. And no condom --
you're not worth it.

George Minus Middius wrote:

...And no condom --
you're not worth it.

Whaoooo ! You remember me James Dean in "Rebel Without a Cause".
OTOH tri-therapy is widely available in, USA so...

"Lionel" wrote in message
...
Robert Morein wrote:

I am American.
The others are not dishonest. They are ignorant. It's simply that the
country has fallen into a state of self-delusion. It's true that there is
a lack of responsibility at the top. But don't forget that self-delusion
is not solely the province of Americans. Take China, for example. That
country has the opportunity to build an economy from the ground up that
would not be oil based.

How ?
Do you know exactly how many *billions* dollars USA have invested in
Chinese industry and infrastructure ?
I bet that more than 80% of the US money invested in China are the money
of your future pensions...
Why the US investors (and the others...) haven't chosen an other type of
energy ?

Lionel, I'm not excusing what individual industrialists do, but this is an
issue where governments must set national policy. You might think that
industrialists are always against energy conservation, but this is not
always true. For example, Henry Ford has publicly advocated a high gasoline
tax, because it would enable his company to sell energy efficient vehicles.

Also, please do not think that becaue I mentioned China, that I am trying to
dilute the responsibility of the U.S. I, for one, am ashamed that the U.S.
has not signed the Kyoto accords.

Furthermore, I pointed out the dire consequences for the U.S. of current
energy policy, for the U.S. itself. Whatever fault I find in China's policy
does not change the consequences for the U.S. of our own policy.

The Chinese government still has substantial central planning power. They
choose to allow a rapid expansion in their automobile fleet, because they
are worried about political stability. They feel forced to buy the loyalty
of each class on whatever terms they can get.