"S888Wheel" wrote in message

I said


That sounds like a hell of a system for the money.


Arny said


Focus on that word: "hell".

I said


So you think this system wouls sound anything less than excellent?

Arny said


IME Vandersteens are kinda inefficient to be well-matched to your
typical thermionic figurative peanut-whistle.



I said


Not an answer to the question. I'll guess you haven't heard this
system. So what is your experience with the Vandersteeens?

I said


Vandersteen 2Ces, with the Jolida amp and CD player? Have you ever
heard this combo?

Arny said


Hey, its the old mix and match components until you find something
that someone has never heard and then claim unique knowledge game.
It's an old newsgroup gambit. Lame.


I said


IOW no. I figured as much. Yet you claim it sounds like hell.

I said


Have you ever heard the Vandersteens?

Arny said


I've heard Vandersteens on several occasions, though only with amps
that matched their modest efficiency.


I said


How did they sound to you? Like hell?


Arny said


No, they sounded pretty good, but like I said they were used with
amplifiers that had enough power, not the peanut whistles you
recommended.


I didn't recomend the Joulida I simply speculated that it would be a
good combo.

Backpedaling on a seemingly strong recommendation becomes you, sockpuppet
Wheel.

That was based on my extensive experience with the
Vandersteens and tubed amplification.

But not extensive enough to cover what you recommended?

Unlike you, I have actually
heard a similar combo and it sounded great to me.

That's right sockpuppet wheel, no matter what I listen to, what I listen to
will not reflect on how it sounds to you.

But it's nice to
know you are willing to trash the sound of systems you have not
actually heard even when your only experience with any of the
components in question was "pretty good" to you.

I probably have higher standards for sound quality than you do, sockpuppet
Wheel. Perhaps its due to the fact that I can audition equipment with
recordings based on live performances that I was intimately involved with?

I said


I didn't recomend the Joulida I simply speculated that it would be a
good combo.


Arny said


Backpedaling on a seemingly strong recommendation becomes you, sockpuppet
Wheel.

Misrepresenting the facts is typical of you. I never recomended the Joulida. I
was simply correcting your mistake.

I said


That was based on my extensive experience with the
Vandersteens and tubed amplification.


Arny said


But not extensive enough to cover what you recommended?

Your question is based on a false premise of your own creation. I stand behind
what I said. You seem to stand behind your misrepresentation of what I said. So
yes, my experience is extensive enough to stand behind what I said about the
Joulida/ Vandersteen combination.

I said


Unlike you, I have actually
heard a similar combo and it sounded great to me.


Arny said


That's right sockpuppet wheel, no matter what I listen to, what I listen to
will not reflect on how it sounds to you.


Of course not. But then I also am not afflicted with prejudices against tubed
gear or speaker manufacturers whose philosophies in audio are different than
mine.

I said


But it's nice to
know you are willing to trash the sound of systems you have not
actually heard even when your only experience with any of the
components in question was "pretty good" to you.

Arny said


I probably have higher standards for sound quality than you do, sockpuppet
Wheel.

Balony.

Arny said

Perhaps its due to the fact that I can audition equipment with
recordings based on live performances that I was intimately involved with?

Perhaps not. Just becuase you make crappy recordings doesn't mean you are any
less incompetent at evaluating audio.

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Perhaps its due to the fact that I can audition equipment with
recordings based on live performances that I was intimately involved
with?

Perhaps not. Just because you make crappy recordings doesn't mean you
are any less incompetent at evaluating audio.

Shows your naiveté and narrow understanding of audio sockpuppet wheel. Some
live performances aren't all that great, and so live recordings of them are
well, constrained. Nevertheless they can be good representations of the live
performance if effectively reproduced. Audio is about reproduction.

Arny said


Perhaps its due to the fact that I can audition equipment with
recordings based on live performances that I was intimately involved
with?

I said


Perhaps not. Just because you make crappy recordings doesn't mean you
are any less incompetent at evaluating audio.

Arny said

Shows your naiveté and narrow understanding of audio sockpuppet wheel.

How?

Arny said

Some
live performances aren't all that great, and so live recordings of them are
well, constrained. Nevertheless they can be good representations of the live
performance if effectively reproduced. Audio is about reproduction.

How does this general claim make *you* any more competent at evaluating audio
products than me? Do you even remember your original claim?

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

Audio is about reproduction.

No. It doesn't have to be that way at all.
I decided that pursuing live sound level accuracy
is not going to provide the most entertaining and
satisfying home audio experience for me.

So I don't.

ScottW