"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ...
"JMG" wrote in message
news
Damning indictment. I must admit that I'm an infrequent visitor to
this newsgroup. Whenever I do visit, the one constant that I always
notice is that Arny seems to be a lightning rod of criticism.

It's easy to predict that this will be true until either of us goes away.

If I go away, Middius just moves on to his next victim.

It's not about me, it's about Middius and his clique on a power trip.
Remember junior high/middle school? Same mentality, same level of maturity.

And you're right there in junior high with them. I challenged you to
stop for a week, and you couldn't. You just couldn't stop. I don't
think Middius is any more to blame than you, Arny. You thrive on
this...whatever you call it that you do here.

"Daniel" wrote in message
om
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"JMG" wrote in message
news
Damning indictment. I must admit that I'm an infrequent visitor to
this newsgroup. Whenever I do visit, the one constant that I always
notice is that Arny seems to be a lightning rod of criticism.

It's easy to predict that this will be true until either of us goes
away.

If I go away, Middius just moves on to his next victim.

It's not about me, it's about Middius and his clique on a power trip.
Remember junior high/middle school? Same mentality, same level of
maturity.

And you're right there in junior high with them. I challenged you to
stop for a week, and you couldn't.

Wrong Daniel, I didn't. Why? No known benefit for doing so other than
jumping through a hoop for you. Who the heck do you think you are that I
should jump through hoops for you?

You just couldn't stop.

Give me a good reason to stop other than winding up your ego, Daniel. Just
one that stands scrutiny.

I don't think Middius is any more to blame than you, Arny.

Your true colors show Daniel. I've been expecting this. What took you so
long?

You thrive on this...whatever you call it that you do here.

I'd prefer to thrive on audio, but I'm pretty omnivorous. If you've really
studied the archives you know that I came in here doing audio posts and I've
done more audio posts than anybody else over the past 6 years, possibly
anybody in the history of the newsgroup.

Now, let's talk about George Middius the guy who like to post primarily
about audio. There is no such thing!

As things stand Daniel, you're just one more guy who likes to do the
personal attack thing like Middius and the rest of his clique, one who has
already demonstrated that you could give a crap less about audio.

Daniel, you can stand in line right over there behind Middius, 'cause that's
where you belong.

:-(

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:01:00 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Daniel" wrote in message
. com
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"JMG" wrote in message
news
Damning indictment. I must admit that I'm an infrequent visitor to
this newsgroup. Whenever I do visit, the one constant that I always
notice is that Arny seems to be a lightning rod of criticism.

It's easy to predict that this will be true until either of us goes
away.

If I go away, Middius just moves on to his next victim.

It's not about me, it's about Middius and his clique on a power trip.
Remember junior high/middle school? Same mentality, same level of
maturity.

And you're right there in junior high with them. I challenged you to
stop for a week, and you couldn't.

Wrong Daniel, I didn't. Why? No known benefit for doing so other than
jumping through a hoop for you.

Of course there would have been a known benefit. It would have made
the atmosphere less contentious around here.

Who the heck do you think you are that I should jump through hoops for you?

Exactly what I was thinking when you wanted me to quote things from a
conversation that just happened a day or two ago here on RAO. The fact
that you wanted me to waste my time cutting and pasting from a
conversation that *you* weren't willing to waste the time producing
showed that you think *you* can make people jump through hoops while
the rest of us can just go to hell.

You just couldn't stop.

Give me a good reason to stop other than winding up your ego, Daniel. Just
one that stands scrutiny.

I just did.

I don't think Middius is any more to blame than you, Arny.

Your true colors show Daniel. I've been expecting this. What took you so
long?

It's just the "true colors" of most of the posters on RAO, if the past
history of the group can be believed.

You thrive on this...whatever you call it that you do here.

I'd prefer to thrive on audio, but I'm pretty omnivorous. If you've really
studied the archives you know that I came in here doing audio posts and I've
done more audio posts than anybody else over the past 6 years, possibly
anybody in the history of the newsgroup.

You've also done more snot-filled posts than anyone else as well.

Now, let's talk about George Middius the guy who like to post primarily
about audio. There is no such thing!

As things stand Daniel, you're just one more guy who likes to do the
personal attack thing like Middius and the rest of his clique, one who has
already demonstrated that you could give a crap less about audio.

This is the way it always is - someone makes a rational observation
and, because you can't handle it, it becomes a personal attack. Well,
you should know about personal attacks since you throw so many of them
out there, right Mr. Krueger?

Daniel, you can stand in line right over there behind Middius, 'cause that's
where you belong.

:-(

"Arny Krueger" wrote

You thrive on this...whatever you call it that
you do here.

If you've really studied the archives you know that
I came in here doing audio posts

False statement.


and I've done more audio posts than anybody else
over the past 6 years, possibly anybody in the
history of the newsgroup.

Hehehe, HAHAHA... wrong, wrong, wrong!
Your S/N ratio is possibly the lowest in USEnet
history. I’d guess it's 20:1... bickering posts to
audio content, mr. Narcissist.

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

You thrive on this...whatever you call it that
you do here.

If you've really studied the archives you know that
I came in here doing audio posts

False statement.

Really? Why not do an analysis of my first months posting to RAO to prove
your point?

and I've done more audio posts than anybody else
over the past 6 years, possibly anybody in the
history of the newsgroup.

Hehehe, HAHAHA... wrong, wrong, wrong!

Really? Why not do an analysis of my first month's postings to RAO to prove
your point?

Your S/N ratio is possibly the lowest in USEnet history.

It's better than yours, Powell. Do an analysis of 2003 and prove me wrong!

I'd guess it's 20:1... bickering posts to audio content, Mr.. Narcissist.

I'm sure you'd guess many things that favor your viewpoint Powell, but
there's something to say for having a factual basis for one's assertions.

"Arny Krueger" wrote

You thrive on this...whatever you call it that
you do here.

If you've really studied the archives you know that
I came in here doing audio posts

False statement.

Really? Why not do an analysis of my first months
posting to RAO to prove your point?

No need, I’ve been here (r.a.o.) as long or longer
than you have.


and I've done more audio posts than anybody else
over the past 6 years, possibly anybody in the
history of the newsgroup.

Hehehe, HAHAHA... wrong, wrong, wrong!

Really? Why not do an analysis of my first month's
postings to RAO to prove your point?

see above.


Your S/N ratio is possibly the lowest in USEnet history.

It's better than yours, Powell. Do an analysis of
2003 and prove me wrong!

Quack, quack, quack...


I'd guess it's 20:1... bickering posts to audio
content, Mr.. Narcissist.

I'm sure you'd guess many things that favor your
viewpoint Powell, but there's something to say for
having a factual basis for one's assertions.

Hypocrite, remove the timber from your own
eye first.

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

You thrive on this...whatever you call it that
you do here.

If you've really studied the archives you know that
I came in here doing audio posts

False statement.

Really? Why not do an analysis of my first months
posting to RAO to prove your point?

No need, I've been here (r.a.o.) as long or longer
than you have.

IOW, this is all just the usual Powell OSAF crap.


and I've done more audio posts than anybody else
over the past 6 years, possibly anybody in the
history of the newsgroup.

Hehehe, HAHAHA... wrong, wrong, wrong!

Really? Why not do an analysis of my first month's
postings to RAO to prove your point?

see above.

IOW, this is all just the usual Powell OSAF crap.


Your S/N ratio is possibly the lowest in USEnet history.

It's better than yours, Powell. Do an analysis of
2003 and prove me wrong!

Quack, quack, quack...

IOW, this is all just the usual Powell OSAF crap.


I'd guess it's 20:1... bickering posts to audio
content, Mr.. Narcissist.

I'm sure you'd guess many things that favor your
viewpoint Powell, but there's something to say for
having a factual basis for one's assertions.

Hypocrite, remove the timber from your own eye first.

If irony killed we'd all be dead.

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:59:46 -0400, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

"Powell" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

You thrive on this...whatever you call it that
you do here.

If you've really studied the archives you know that
I came in here doing audio posts

False statement.

"If you take two cars, say a Yugo and a Ferrari. If you place you into
each passenger seat (*), blind fold you, put on headphones so you can
not hear, then drive down a super smooth road, at a constant 10mph in
a straight line.. Would you be able to detect any differences between
the two? Most likely not. Does this tell you any information on the
performance of either vehicle? Nope.. Just that under X, Y, and Z,
they will be very similar, or almost indistinguishable.. But, in
actual use, X, Y and Z are no alwasy the case. Big Deal.

Actually, there are people who do stuff like this for a living - its
called competitive car analysis, and its a big business in my home
town, Detroit. I even worked in a department of Chrysler that did
stuff like this. The answer is that its probable that most folks could
tell the difference between sitting in a Yugo and a Ferarri, even if
blindfolded in a stopped car. You may not even have to start the
engine!

Contrast that with the dismal situation in High End Audio".
---------------------------

This is one of your very first posts. You came in trashing "High End
audio" from the very beginning.

Here's another one where you talk about charlatans and
"empty-headedness" and FRAUD, from the day before the previous post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.audio.opinion+author:arnyk%40po p3.concentric.net&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny= 1996&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=1996&selm=01bbf 348%245155e840%245476adce%40crc3.concentric.net&rn um=2
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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group:rec.audio.opinion+author:arnyk%40po p3.concentric.net&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny= 1996&as_maxd=31&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=1996&selm=01bbf 33c%246834d1e0%245476adce%40crc3.concentric.net&rn um=3
Ray Knuth wrote in article
...
If you can spend the $2K for speakerwire, $3K for an interconnect and
$10K+ for an SE amp why don't you drag your little system down to some
reputable institute and have it tested with your cables and some
"inferior" ones. You can set the system up and tweek it all you want
before the test. Put as many little piles of stones around the room as
needed.

Be sure that you specify that the piles of stones be kept small and
tightly packed. If the piles are loose, they may rattle. If the piles
sufficiently large, they may actually affect room acoustics more than
any number of other kinds of hyper-expensive tweaks that people seem
to affect, and you seem to be describing! ;-)

Yep, these are three of your very first posts...

The combative tone of your posts was present even then.

Really? Why not do an analysis of my first months posting to RAO to prove
your point?

Who do you think you are? chuckle


and I've done more audio posts than anybody else
over the past 6 years, possibly anybody in the
history of the newsgroup.

Hehehe, HAHAHA... wrong, wrong, wrong!

Really? Why not do an analysis of my first month's postings to RAO to prove
your point?

Really now. Why not do an analysis of the past 6 years of the
newsgroup to support YOUR point? You're the one who made the initial
claim!

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ...
"Daniel" wrote in message
om
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"JMG" wrote in message
news
Damning indictment. I must admit that I'm an infrequent visitor to
this newsgroup. Whenever I do visit, the one constant that I always
notice is that Arny seems to be a lightning rod of criticism.

It's easy to predict that this will be true until either of us goes
away.

If I go away, Middius just moves on to his next victim.

It's not about me, it's about Middius and his clique on a power trip.
Remember junior high/middle school? Same mentality, same level of
maturity.

And you're right there in junior high with them. I challenged you to
stop for a week, and you couldn't.

Wrong Daniel, I didn't. Why? No known benefit for doing so other than
jumping through a hoop for you. Who the heck do you think you are that I
should jump through hoops for you?

You just couldn't stop.

Give me a good reason to stop other than winding up your ego, Daniel. Just
one that stands scrutiny.

You had said you wanted to talk about audio. I challenged you, since
that's what *you said you wanted*, to do just that and not bother with
personal attacks. It wasn't about my ego, or your jumping through
hoops. It was in the interest of talking about audio that I made my
challenge. That was what you said you wanted. Obviously, I inferred
incorrectly that said "talking" might mean civilized discourse on your
part.


I don't think Middius is any more to blame than you, Arny.

Your true colors show Daniel. I've been expecting this. What took you so
long?

You thrive on this...whatever you call it that you do here.

I'd prefer to thrive on audio, but I'm pretty omnivorous. If you've really
studied the archives you know that I came in here doing audio posts and I've
done more audio posts than anybody else over the past 6 years, possibly
anybody in the history of the newsgroup.


I'm not concerned with the last six years. Just, let's say, the last
six days.

Now, let's talk about George Middius the guy who like to post primarily
about audio. There is no such thing!

I made no claim that he does like to post about audio, just that *you*
are as in love with the personal attack as he. Your response to me
here proves that.


As things stand Daniel, you're just one more guy who likes to do the
personal attack thing like Middius and the rest of his clique, one who has
already demonstrated that you could give a crap less about audio.

I didn't attack anyone. And I am not in anyone's clique.


Daniel, you can stand in line right over there behind Middius, 'cause that's
where you belong.

:-(

What do you call that? OSAF?

In any case, good day, sir.

"Daniel" wrote in message
om...

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Daniel" wrote in message
om

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"JMG" wrote in message
news
Damning indictment. I must admit that I'm an infrequent visitor to
this newsgroup. Whenever I do visit, the one constant that I always
notice is that Arny seems to be a lightning rod of criticism.

It's easy to predict that this will be true until either of us goes
away.

If I go away, Middius just moves on to his next victim.

It's not about me, it's about Middius and his clique on a power trip.
Remember junior high/middle school? Same mentality, same level of
maturity.

And you're right there in junior high with them. I challenged you to
stop for a week, and you couldn't.

Wrong Daniel, I didn't. Why? No known benefit for doing so other than
jumping through a hoop for you. Who the heck do you think you are that I
should jump through hoops for you?

You just couldn't stop.

Give me a good reason to stop other than winding up your ego, Daniel.
Just
one that stands scrutiny.

You had said you wanted to talk about audio. I challenged you, since
that's what *you said you wanted*, to do just that and not bother with
personal attacks.

You haven't answered the question, Daniel.

It wasn't about my ego, or your jumping through hoops.

Of course it is, Daniel.

It was in the interest of talking about audio that I made my challenge.

What's stopping you and I from talking about audio?

That was what you said you wanted.

What's stopping *anybody* from talking to me about audio?

What's stopping them from not attacking me personally?

Obviously, I inferred
incorrectly that said "talking" might mean civilized discourse on your
part.

If you want to have civilized discourse with me, why not just do the right
thing yourself, Daniel?

I don't think Middius is any more to blame than you, Arny.

Your true colors show Daniel. I've been expecting this. What took you so
long?

Not answering that question, either.

You thrive on this...whatever you call it that you do here.

I'd prefer to thrive on audio, but I'm pretty omnivorous. If you've
really
studied the archives you know that I came in here doing audio posts and
I've
done more audio posts than anybody else over the past 6 years, possibly
anybody in the history of the newsgroup.

I'm not concerned with the last six years. Just, let's say, the last six
days.

Let's do that. Let's talk about your gratuitous attacks on me during the
past 6 days, Daniel.

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=e6...0posting .goo
gle.com

Daniel addresses a number of accusations at me.

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=e6...0posting .goo
gle.com

Daniel calls me a paranoid.

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=e6...0posting .goo
gle.com

Daniel assists BJ Richman in attacking me.

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=e6...0posting .goo
gle.com

Daniel takes Middius' side against me.

The good news is that you didn't attack me *every* day.

Now, let's talk about George Middius the guy who like to post primarily
about audio. There is no such thing!

I made no claim that he does like to post about audio, just that *you*
are as in love with the personal attack as he.

Doctor cure yourself.

Your response to me here proves that.

Not at all. I simply don't want to let you trap me into being defenseless.
BTW Daniel, if you had a clean record I might even take you seriously.


As things stand Daniel, you're just one more guy who likes to do the
personal attack thing like Middius and the rest of his clique, one who
has
already demonstrated that you could give a crap less about audio.

I didn't attack anyone. And I am not in anyone's clique.

The facts say otherwise. 4 essentially gratuitous attacks in 6 days, not
including the one I'm responding to.

Daniel, you can stand in line right over there behind Middius, 'cause
that's
where you belong.

:-(

What do you call that? OSAF?

I call it looking at the facts about your malevolence, Daniel.

In any case, good day, sir.

Just guessing Daniel, but I think you just might have one more attack post
in you for the day. That would make it 6 attack-Arny posts in 6 days. All
I've done to you is take exception to your gratuitous attacks and point our
your hypocrisy.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ...
"Daniel" wrote in message
om...

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Daniel" wrote in message
om

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"JMG" wrote in message
news
Damning indictment. I must admit that I'm an infrequent visitor to
this newsgroup. Whenever I do visit, the one constant that I always
notice is that Arny seems to be a lightning rod of criticism.

It's easy to predict that this will be true until either of us goes
away.

If I go away, Middius just moves on to his next victim.

It's not about me, it's about Middius and his clique on a power trip.
Remember junior high/middle school? Same mentality, same level of
maturity.

And you're right there in junior high with them. I challenged you to
stop for a week, and you couldn't.

Wrong Daniel, I didn't. Why? No known benefit for doing so other than
jumping through a hoop for you. Who the heck do you think you are that I
should jump through hoops for you?

You just couldn't stop.

Give me a good reason to stop other than winding up your ego, Daniel.
Just
one that stands scrutiny.

You had said you wanted to talk about audio. I challenged you, since
that's what *you said you wanted*, to do just that and not bother with
personal attacks.

You haven't answered the question, Daniel.

It wasn't about my ego, or your jumping through hoops.

Of course it is, Daniel.

It was in the interest of talking about audio that I made my challenge.

What's stopping you and I from talking about audio?

That was what you said you wanted.

What's stopping *anybody* from talking to me about audio?

What's stopping them from not attacking me personally?

Obviously, I inferred
incorrectly that said "talking" might mean civilized discourse on your
part.

If you want to have civilized discourse with me, why not just do the right
thing yourself, Daniel?

I don't think Middius is any more to blame than you, Arny.

Your true colors show Daniel. I've been expecting this. What took you so
long?

Not answering that question, either.

You thrive on this...whatever you call it that you do here.

I'd prefer to thrive on audio, but I'm pretty omnivorous. If you've
really
studied the archives you know that I came in here doing audio posts and
I've
done more audio posts than anybody else over the past 6 years, possibly
anybody in the history of the newsgroup.

I'm not concerned with the last six years. Just, let's say, the last six
days.

Let's do that. Let's talk about your gratuitous attacks on me during the
past 6 days, Daniel.

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=e6...0posting .goo
gle.com

Daniel addresses a number of accusations at me.

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=e6...0posting .goo
gle.com

Daniel calls me a paranoid.

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=e6...0posting .goo
gle.com

Daniel assists BJ Richman in attacking me.

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=e6...0posting .goo
gle.com

Daniel takes Middius' side against me.

The good news is that you didn't attack me *every* day.

Now, let's talk about George Middius the guy who like to post primarily
about audio. There is no such thing!

I made no claim that he does like to post about audio, just that *you*
are as in love with the personal attack as he.

Doctor cure yourself.

Your response to me here proves that.

Not at all. I simply don't want to let you trap me into being defenseless.
BTW Daniel, if you had a clean record I might even take you seriously.


As things stand Daniel, you're just one more guy who likes to do the
personal attack thing like Middius and the rest of his clique, one who
has
already demonstrated that you could give a crap less about audio.

I didn't attack anyone. And I am not in anyone's clique.

The facts say otherwise. 4 essentially gratuitous attacks in 6 days, not
including the one I'm responding to.

Daniel, you can stand in line right over there behind Middius, 'cause
that's
where you belong.

:-(

What do you call that? OSAF?

I call it looking at the facts about your malevolence, Daniel.

In any case, good day, sir.

Just guessing Daniel, but I think you just might have one more attack post
in you for the day. That would make it 6 attack-Arny posts in 6 days. All
I've done to you is take exception to your gratuitous attacks and point our
your hypocrisy.

I said, "Good day."