Matt Mitchell wrote:
I've recently taken on sound for the kids group in my church. The room
we're in is all concrete with the exception of wooden bleachers. I need to
get the drums under control so I don't have to run the rest so loud.

Give the kid a set of brushes. I'm serious. It'll be a learning experience
for him and much more pleasant for you.

Any suggestions on where to find blueprints or directions for building a a
cheap(and mobile) drum booth...I'm hoping I can find a workable solution
that doesn't require total enclosure. Other people use this room and we
break down the drums every other week.

Just a U-shaped plexiglas box with a top will make some difference, but it
won't make as much of a difference as drum lessons in dynamics will.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Matt Mitchell wrote:
I've recently taken on sound for the kids group in my church. The room
we're in is all concrete with the exception of wooden bleachers. I need to
get the drums under control so I don't have to run the rest so loud.

Give the kid a set of brushes. I'm serious. It'll be a learning experience
for him and much more pleasant for you.

Any suggestions on where to find blueprints or directions for building a a
cheap(and mobile) drum booth...I'm hoping I can find a workable solution
that doesn't require total enclosure. Other people use this room and we
break down the drums every other week.

Just a U-shaped plexiglas box with a top will make some difference, but it
won't make as much of a difference as drum lessons in dynamics will.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

I've recently taken on sound for the kids group in my church. The room
we're in is all concrete with the exception of wooden bleachers. I need to
get the drums under control so I don't have to run the rest so loud.

Any suggestions on where to find blueprints or directions for building a a
cheap(and mobile) drum booth...I'm hoping I can find a workable solution
that doesn't require total enclosure. Other people use this room and we
break down the drums every other week.

Thanks,
Matt

"Matt Mitchell" wrote in message
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I've recently taken on sound for the kids group in my church. The room
we're in is all concrete with the exception of wooden bleachers. I need
to
get the drums under control so I don't have to run the rest so loud.

Any suggestions on where to find blueprints or directions for building a a
cheap(and mobile) drum booth...I'm hoping I can find a workable solution
that doesn't require total enclosure. Other people use this room and we
break down the drums every other week.

Moon-gel
http://www.music123.com/Moongel-MG4-...s-i31570.music

and Hot Rods
http://www.music123.com/Promark-Hot-Rods-i17011.music

will help bring the volume down a lot. The moon gel will also make it easier
to live with the typical badly tuned church drum kit.

Sean

"Matt Mitchell" wrote in message
...
I've recently taken on sound for the kids group in my church. The room
we're in is all concrete with the exception of wooden bleachers. I need
to
get the drums under control so I don't have to run the rest so loud.

Any suggestions on where to find blueprints or directions for building a a
cheap(and mobile) drum booth...I'm hoping I can find a workable solution
that doesn't require total enclosure. Other people use this room and we
break down the drums every other week.

Moon-gel
http://www.music123.com/Moongel-MG4-...s-i31570.music

and Hot Rods
http://www.music123.com/Promark-Hot-Rods-i17011.music

will help bring the volume down a lot. The moon gel will also make it easier
to live with the typical badly tuned church drum kit.

Sean

Matt Mitchell wrote:

I've recently taken on sound for the kids group in my church. The room
we're in is all concrete with the exception of wooden bleachers. I need to
get the drums under control so I don't have to run the rest so loud.

Any suggestions on where to find blueprints or directions for building a a
cheap(and mobile) drum booth...I'm hoping I can find a workable solution
that doesn't require total enclosure. Other people use this room and we
break down the drums every other week.

Speaking from a sort of related experience (my church moved into a
building which isn't quite all concrete, but was all reflective
surfaces including one wall of basically solid limestone), I can
say I sort of feel your pain.

As others have said, getting the drummer to play quieter is definitely
a good idea. A good friend who played at the church once or twice
was actually annoyed when they started to put the drum shield around
him: his attitude was, if you want him to play quiet, just ask him
to play quiet, and he can play quiet, even when playing with sticks.

Aaaanyway, my experience was that in such a room, a drum shield
didn't do all that much except just direct the overly loud noise
in a different direction.

Now, for my impractical suggestion: if at all possible, treat
the room, not the drums. You'll get good results with the drums
that way, and you'll also improve the intelligibility of everything
else, such as singers and public speakers.

- Logan

Matt Mitchell wrote:

I've recently taken on sound for the kids group in my church. The room
we're in is all concrete with the exception of wooden bleachers. I need to
get the drums under control so I don't have to run the rest so loud.

Any suggestions on where to find blueprints or directions for building a a
cheap(and mobile) drum booth...I'm hoping I can find a workable solution
that doesn't require total enclosure. Other people use this room and we
break down the drums every other week.

Speaking from a sort of related experience (my church moved into a
building which isn't quite all concrete, but was all reflective
surfaces including one wall of basically solid limestone), I can
say I sort of feel your pain.

As others have said, getting the drummer to play quieter is definitely
a good idea. A good friend who played at the church once or twice
was actually annoyed when they started to put the drum shield around
him: his attitude was, if you want him to play quiet, just ask him
to play quiet, and he can play quiet, even when playing with sticks.

Aaaanyway, my experience was that in such a room, a drum shield
didn't do all that much except just direct the overly loud noise
in a different direction.

Now, for my impractical suggestion: if at all possible, treat
the room, not the drums. You'll get good results with the drums
that way, and you'll also improve the intelligibility of everything
else, such as singers and public speakers.

- Logan

Matt Mitchell wrote:
I've recently taken on sound for the kids group in my church. The room
we're in is all concrete with the exception of wooden bleachers. I need to
get the drums under control so I don't have to run the rest so loud.

As both a drummer and a (part-time) sound man, the first thing I would
say is to tell the kid to play quietly. This is perfectly possible - I
have had to do it lots of times myself.

If the kid thinks drumming is all about how much of a show you can put
on, or that music is some sort of thrash-fest, then this is completely
inappropriate for your environment.

Has the kid had any lessons? If so tell him about the importance of
dynamics and sensitivity.

Any suggestions on where to find blueprints or directions for building a a
cheap(and mobile) drum booth...I'm hoping I can find a workable solution
that doesn't require total enclosure. Other people use this room and we
break down the drums every other week.

See http://www.clearsonic.com/

Our church uses their screens for road shows, and as long as you have a
lid over the top, they work great. Also ensure that there is some
ventilation for the drummer! I made the mistake of forgetting to
ventilate the booth first time I used it... I had my own private little
sauna... not pleasant!

Chris W

--
The voice of ignorance speaks loud and long,
but the words of the wise are quiet and few.
--

Matt Mitchell wrote:
I've recently taken on sound for the kids group in my church. The room
we're in is all concrete with the exception of wooden bleachers. I need to
get the drums under control so I don't have to run the rest so loud.

As both a drummer and a (part-time) sound man, the first thing I would
say is to tell the kid to play quietly. This is perfectly possible - I
have had to do it lots of times myself.

If the kid thinks drumming is all about how much of a show you can put
on, or that music is some sort of thrash-fest, then this is completely
inappropriate for your environment.

Has the kid had any lessons? If so tell him about the importance of
dynamics and sensitivity.

Any suggestions on where to find blueprints or directions for building a a
cheap(and mobile) drum booth...I'm hoping I can find a workable solution
that doesn't require total enclosure. Other people use this room and we
break down the drums every other week.

See http://www.clearsonic.com/

Our church uses their screens for road shows, and as long as you have a
lid over the top, they work great. Also ensure that there is some
ventilation for the drummer! I made the mistake of forgetting to
ventilate the booth first time I used it... I had my own private little
sauna... not pleasant!

Chris W

--
The voice of ignorance speaks loud and long,
but the words of the wise are quiet and few.
--

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:32:32 -0700, Matt Mitchell
wrote:
I've recently taken on sound for the kids group in my church. The room
we're in is all concrete with the exception of wooden bleachers. I need to
get the drums under control so I don't have to run the rest so loud.


Run prices for all the suggestions: Treating the room is important in
any case . . . and then compare to a set of E-drums.

Particularly in churches, you don't want to drive away the grownups (you
DO have youth advisors, right?) and you often have several drummers, so
going electronic makes life easier all around.

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:32:32 -0700, Matt Mitchell
wrote:
I've recently taken on sound for the kids group in my church. The room
we're in is all concrete with the exception of wooden bleachers. I need to
get the drums under control so I don't have to run the rest so loud.


Run prices for all the suggestions: Treating the room is important in
any case . . . and then compare to a set of E-drums.

Particularly in churches, you don't want to drive away the grownups (you
DO have youth advisors, right?) and you often have several drummers, so
going electronic makes life easier all around.