I know it is not recommended to play guitars thru hi-fi speakers, but
does it help
or protect the speakers better if the guitar is run thru a effects
proccessor that has equalizers and built in mixers and the likes. Im
refering to a Digitech pre-amp effects processor into a kenwood
reciever into home stereo speakers. I have hi-effecient speakers and
regular high power speakers, if it makes a difference on which to use.
Any input would greatly be appreciated. Bryan Dibble

In article ,
(Bryan Dibble) wrote:

I know it is not recommended to play guitars thru hi-fi speakers, but
does it help
or protect the speakers better if the guitar is run thru a effects
proccessor that has equalizers and built in mixers and the likes. Im
refering to a Digitech pre-amp effects processor into a kenwood
reciever into home stereo speakers. I have hi-effecient speakers and
regular high power speakers, if it makes a difference on which to use.
Any input would greatly be appreciated. Bryan Dibble

Don't do it, at any loudish volume
home speakers just are not up to it
George

In article writes:

I know it is not recommended to play guitars thru hi-fi speakers, but
does it help
or protect the speakers better if the guitar is run thru a effects
proccessor that has equalizers and built in mixers and the likes.


Sure, as long as that device has a volume control, and you keep it
turned way down. Hi-fi speakers aren't built to take the same pounding
that guitar amplifier speakers take, and playing through them at
volume levels that you'd normally play through an instrument amplifier
will cause damage.

If you just want to hear the sound of an effect processor at low
volume, that will work, but it won't be very emotional.


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Bryan Dibble wrote:

I know it is not recommended to play guitars thru hi-fi speakers, but
does it help
or protect the speakers better if the guitar is run thru a effects
proccessor that has equalizers and built in mixers and the likes. Im
refering to a Digitech pre-amp effects processor into a kenwood
reciever into home stereo speakers. I have hi-effecient speakers and
regular high power speakers, if it makes a difference on which to use.
Any input would greatly be appreciated. Bryan Dibble

In addition to the previous posts - be very aware that guitars can produce
a lot of treble that may 'fry' a hi-fi tweeter - even if it sounds like
the rest of the system can take it.

In that respect a processor may even make things worse.

Why not buy a cheap practice amp ?

Graham

Pooh Bear wrote in message ...
Bryan Dibble wrote:

I know it is not recommended to play guitars thru hi-fi speakers, but
does it help
or protect the speakers better if the guitar is run thru a effects
proccessor that has equalizers and built in mixers and the likes. Im
refering to a Digitech pre-amp effects processor into a kenwood
reciever into home stereo speakers. I have hi-effecient speakers and
regular high power speakers, if it makes a difference on which to use.
Any input would greatly be appreciated. Bryan Dibble

In addition to the previous posts - be very aware that guitars can produce
a lot of treble that may 'fry' a hi-fi tweeter - even if it sounds like
the rest of the system can take it.

In that respect a processor may even make things worse.

Why not buy a cheap practice amp ?

Graham

why don't wailing leads in music fry tweeters then?

In article ,
(Bryan Dibble) wrote:

Pooh Bear wrote in message
...
Bryan Dibble wrote:

I know it is not recommended to play guitars thru hi-fi speakers, but
does it help
or protect the speakers better if the guitar is run thru a effects
proccessor that has equalizers and built in mixers and the likes. Im
refering to a Digitech pre-amp effects processor into a kenwood
reciever into home stereo speakers. I have hi-effecient speakers and
regular high power speakers, if it makes a difference on which to use.
Any input would greatly be appreciated. Bryan Dibble

In addition to the previous posts - be very aware that guitars can produce
a lot of treble that may 'fry' a hi-fi tweeter - even if it sounds like
the rest of the system can take it.

In that respect a processor may even make things worse.

Why not buy a cheap practice amp ?

Graham

why don't wailing leads in music fry tweeters then?

"most"recorded music is compressed and bandwithlimited
it is got the dynamic range of a lead slug
but don't take our word for it
I encourage you to do it yourself
another neat trick to get HUGE volume out of home hi-fi is to run your
speaker outputs into the aux input on a second reciever then hook your
speakers to this second reciever
you can boost the output by at least 10 times the wattage
George

In article ,
(Bryan Dibble) writes:

why don't wailing leads in music fry tweeters then?

One reason is that when people listen to a stereo system (even relatively loud)
playing back recorded music the volume (Sound Pressure Level) is *nowhere near*
the volume of even a small 20 watt tube guitar amp being played live. You can
play your guitar through your stereo system but dont expect to get SPL high
enough to compete with acoustic drums etc.
Also, finished mixes on commercial CDs are nearly always compressed and limited
to such a degree that hi fi stereo speakers can handle them. These same
speakers could not reproduce the actual volume and dynamics of a band playing
live, at least not a rock band.

Garth~


"I think the fact that music can come up a wire is a miracle."
Ed Cherney

"Garth" wrote in message
...
: In article ,
: (Bryan Dibble) writes:
:
: why don't wailing leads in music fry tweeters then?
:
: One reason is that when people listen to a stereo system (even relatively loud)
: playing back recorded music the volume (Sound Pressure Level) is *nowhere near*
: the volume of even a small 20 watt tube guitar amp being played live. You can
: play your guitar through your stereo system but dont expect to get SPL high
: enough to compete with acoustic drums etc.
: Also, finished mixes on commercial CDs are nearly always compressed and limited
: to such a degree that hi fi stereo speakers can handle them. These same
: speakers could not reproduce the actual volume and dynamics of a band playing
: live, at least not a rock band.
:
: Garth~

My Stereo system plays easily at 100dB SPL (C slow) with a rock Once in a while at band
practice we put a song up on a CD and then we start to noodle with the tune and then start to
play it. It is hilarious when we stop cause the stereo is kickin ass but while we are playing
it is completely inaudible. Get a cheap guitar amp and be done with it.

The Stereo. http://philsaudio.com/apprenti.htm

Regards
Phil Abbate.

Bryan Dibble wrote:
Pooh Bear wrote in message ...

In addition to the previous posts - be very aware that guitars can produce
a lot of treble that may 'fry' a hi-fi tweeter - even if it sounds like
the rest of the system can take it.

In that respect a processor may even make things worse.

Why not buy a cheap practice amp ?

why don't wailing leads in music fry tweeters then?

Because the music you play has been pretty limited and processed, and does
not have the occasional sharp transient that damages speakers. Even so, if
you played them at concert stage levels, most home system tweeters would not
last more than a minute or so.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

In article ,
(Bryan Dibble) wrote:

Pooh Bear wrote in message
...
Bryan Dibble wrote:

I know it is not recommended to play guitars thru hi-fi speakers,
but
does it help
or protect the speakers better if the guitar is run thru a effects
proccessor that has equalizers and built in mixers and the likes.
Im
refering to a Digitech pre-amp effects processor into a kenwood
reciever into home stereo speakers. I have hi-effecient speakers and
regular high power speakers, if it makes a difference on which to
use.
Any input would greatly be appreciated. Bryan Dibble

In addition to the previous posts - be very aware that guitars can produce
a lot of treble that may 'fry' a hi-fi tweeter - even if it sounds like
the rest of the system can take it.

In that respect a processor may even make things worse.

Why not buy a cheap practice amp ?

Graham

why don't wailing leads in music fry tweeters then?

"most"recorded music is compressed and bandwithlimited
it is got the dynamic range of a lead slug
but don't take our word for it
I encourage you to do it yourself
another neat trick to get HUGE volume out of home hi-fi is to run your
speaker outputs into the aux input on a second reciever then hook your
speakers to this second reciever
you can boost the output by at least 10 times the wattage
George


No you can't, but you know that. I'm sure that this was an attempt at
backhanded humor.

Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

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(Richard Kuschel) wrote:


In article ,
(Bryan Dibble) wrote:

Pooh Bear wrote in message
...
Bryan Dibble wrote:

I know it is not recommended to play guitars thru hi-fi speakers,
but
does it help
or protect the speakers better if the guitar is run thru a effects
proccessor that has equalizers and built in mixers and the likes.
Im
refering to a Digitech pre-amp effects processor into a kenwood
reciever into home stereo speakers. I have hi-effecient speakers and
regular high power speakers, if it makes a difference on which to
use.
Any input would greatly be appreciated. Bryan Dibble

In addition to the previous posts - be very aware that guitars can
produce
a lot of treble that may 'fry' a hi-fi tweeter - even if it sounds like
the rest of the system can take it.

In that respect a processor may even make things worse.

Why not buy a cheap practice amp ?

Graham

why don't wailing leads in music fry tweeters then?

"most"recorded music is compressed and bandwithlimited
it is got the dynamic range of a lead slug
but don't take our word for it
I encourage you to do it yourself
another neat trick to get HUGE volume out of home hi-fi is to run your
speaker outputs into the aux input on a second reciever then hook your
speakers to this second reciever
you can boost the output by at least 10 times the wattage
George


No you can't, but you know that. I'm sure that this was an attempt at
backhanded humor.

some time around 1979 I did do that, just before I called the fire
department ;-o
George

I encourage you to do it yourself
another neat trick to get HUGE volume out of home hi-fi is to run your

speaker outputs into the aux input on a second reciever then hook your

speakers to this second reciever
you can boost the output by at least 10 times the wattage
George


No you can't, but you know that. I'm sure that this was an attempt at
backhanded humor.

some time around 1979 I did do that, just before I called the fire
department ;-o
George






I meant you can't increase the wattage. You will get tons of distortion and
raise holy ned with the speakers, but gain does not increase the amplifier's
power.
Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty

In article ,
(Richard Kuschel) wrote:

I encourage you to do it yourself
another neat trick to get HUGE volume out of home hi-fi is to run your

speaker outputs into the aux input on a second reciever then hook your

speakers to this second reciever
you can boost the output by at least 10 times the wattage
George


No you can't, but you know that. I'm sure that this was an attempt at
backhanded humor.

some time around 1979 I did do that, just before I called the fire
department ;-o
George






I meant you can't increase the wattage. You will get tons of distortion and
raise holy ned with the speakers, but gain does not increase the amplifier's
power.

I understand the Physics(now. not 25 years ago) but It got way way way
freaking louder
George

another neat trick to get HUGE volume out of home hi-fi is to run your
speaker outputs into the aux input on a second reciever then hook your
speakers to this second reciever
you can boost the output by at least 10 times the wattage

LOL! But seriously, kids will try anything. One of my 60s bandmates, in a
failed attempt to keep up with my mighty (and truly a piece of crap) US-made
Vox Super Beatle, would plug the speaker out of his Bandmaster into the input
of another Bandmaster. None of us could figure out why it didn't ever seem to
be any louder than just one Bandmaster. The things you do when you're 16 years
old...


Scott Fraser