[George M. Middius]

The Krooborg gouges out his last remaining brain cell.

Whatever you say, lady. ;-)

Arny: Seek professional help.

Yeah, that was a really nasty thing I just said to Jenn.

Not really.



--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Jenn" wrote
Eeyore wrote:

Please - for your own good, take a break ( say 1-2 weeks
) from Usenet. NOW !

You misspelled "years".

Yeah Jenn, just think how much *good* you could do if I wasn't trying to
hold you accountable for your weirdness.

I see no weirdness from Jenn.

Graham

[Eeyore]

"George M. Middius" wrote:

The Krooborg confirms the well-known diagnosis.

I'm 100% accountable for my statements and there is
nothing weird about them, which bugs you to no end.

Whatever you say, lady. ;-)

Arnii, I know about your legendary cheapness and all, but at this point in
your "life", you can surely afford to spring for one session with a
dominatrix. Stop putting it off and just get it over with.

No, no ! That should have been.....

" Whatever you say, mistress. "

Graham

[Eeyore]

wrote:

Both sound like real "instruments" to me. However, by miking so closely
low frequency components are picked up that would normally not be heard
or recorded in an orchestral setting. Arny's triangle recording is not
al all how a triangle sounds a few feet or more away. It's similar to
the bass cancelation of dipolar speakers at normal distance due to the
front and back waves meeting. However if you put a microphone right
next to the speaker diaphragm of such a speaker the mike will pick up
the bass full strength. Sorry I'm not more eloquent in my description.

I assume you mean the proximity effect that occurs with pressure gradient (
directional ) mics as opposed to pressure operated.

Graham

[Jenn]

In article om,
wrote:

Both sound like real "instruments" to me. However, by miking so closely
low frequency components are picked up that would normally not be heard
or recorded in an orchestral setting. Arny's triangle recording is not
al all how a triangle sounds a few feet or more away. It's similar to
the bass cancelation of dipolar speakers at normal distance due to the
front and back waves meeting. However if you put a microphone right
next to the speaker diaphragm of such a speaker the mike will pick up
the bass full strength. Sorry I'm not more eloquent in my description.

TB

Hi TB,

Respectfully, there's no way in hell that those are real acoustic
instruments. It is a synth. The triangle is real; a terrible
instrument, but real.

[Arny Krueger]

"paul packer" wrote in message


How does one "represent" intelligence? Either it's there
or it's not, and if it's not the evidence will soon
mount. I don't believe you're unintelligent--not for a
moment. I greatly envy your technical knowledge and
skills.

Paul there is simply nothing about you that I envy or even find more than
despicable and pitiful. Sorry, but I must tell the truth.

But you have a personality problem involving
self-esteem and self-awareness, which are often
intertwined, and it would be wise if, in the midst of
your rabid denials, you considered the possibility that
all those people who keep saying "Get help, Arnie" could
just have a point. It's not a condemnation, you know.

No, but it is a massive long wordy sentence, which exposes quite a bit about
how your mind fails to work properly, Paul.

People are concerned.

I wish all the *doctors* around here would fix themselves, first.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" wrote in
message



Respectfully, there's no way in hell that those are real
acoustic instruments. It is a synth.

Please correct me if I'm wrong Jenn, but your hypothesis is that real
trumpet players can never ever play that closely to perfect pitch and hold a
note that steadily, that long.

[paul packer]

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:13:57 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message


How does one "represent" intelligence? Either it's there
or it's not, and if it's not the evidence will soon
mount. I don't believe you're unintelligent--not for a
moment. I greatly envy your technical knowledge and
skills.

Paul there is simply nothing about you that I envy or even find more than
despicable and pitiful. Sorry, but I must tell the truth.

Hmmm. Methinks this post hit the mark.

But you have a personality problem involving
self-esteem and self-awareness, which are often
intertwined, and it would be wise if, in the midst of
your rabid denials, you considered the possibility that
all those people who keep saying "Get help, Arnie" could
just have a point. It's not a condemnation, you know.

No, but it is a massive long wordy sentence, which exposes quite a bit about
how your mind fails to work properly, Paul.

It's actually two sentences, Arny. What does that say about your mind?

People are concerned.

I wish all the *doctors* around here would fix themselves, first.

We need you to get started first, since you've got further to go.

[[email protected]]

Jenn wrote:
In article om,
wrote:

Both sound like real "instruments" to me. However, by miking so closely
[snip]

TB

Hi TB,

Respectfully, there's no way in hell that those are real acoustic
instruments. It is a synth. The triangle is real; a terrible
instrument, but real.

Note that in the above post I was refering only to the triangle and the
kitchen utensil, not the "trumpets" etc.

TB

[[email protected]]

Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

Both sound like real "instruments" to me. However, by miking so closely
low frequency components are picked up that would normally not be heard
or recorded in an orchestral setting. Arny's triangle recording is not
al all how a triangle sounds a few feet or more away. It's similar to
the bass cancelation of dipolar speakers at normal distance due to the
front and back waves meeting. However if you put a microphone right
next to the speaker diaphragm of such a speaker the mike will pick up
the bass full strength. Sorry I'm not more eloquent in my description.

I assume you mean the proximity effect that occurs with pressure gradient (
directional ) mics as opposed to pressure operated.

Graham

No, I mean if you (lightly!) strike a triangle or bell or iron skillet
etc. an inch from your ear the low frequency components will be more
prominent than if you strike it at arms length. There are tones in that
triangle file that simply would not be heard at all from 10 feet away.

TB

[Arny Krueger]

wrote in message
ups.com
Eeyore wrote:
wrote:

Both sound like real "instruments" to me. However, by
miking so closely low frequency components are picked
up that would normally not be heard or recorded in an
orchestral setting. Arny's triangle recording is not al
all how a triangle sounds a few feet or more away. It's
similar to the bass cancelation of dipolar speakers at
normal distance due to the front and back waves
meeting. However if you put a microphone right next to
the speaker diaphragm of such a speaker the mike will
pick up the bass full strength. Sorry I'm not more
eloquent in my description.

I assume you mean the proximity effect that occurs with
pressure gradient ( directional ) mics as opposed to
pressure operated.

Not applicable. The online doc for the pre-downsampling version of
recording is posted at:

http://www.pcabx.com/technical/sample_rates/index.htm

"24 bit 96 KHz "reference" samples were made by using 2 B&K 4007 1/2"
condenser microphones powered by an Audio Technica phantom power unit,
preamplified using a Benchmark Media mic preamp, and recorded using a CardD
Deluxe in a 800 Mhz Pentium 3 computer located in another room. They were
closely miced on-axis in a fairly small dead space. Therefore the transients
are very well-defined and harmonic-rich, technically speaking. They also
have relatively low amounts of background noise (mostly acoustic). They may
sound quite "dry" to your ears."

B&K 4007 are small omnidirectional measurement mics. About $2500 a pair.

Further information about this recording is near and in figures 11 & 12.

No, I mean if you (lightly!) strike a triangle or bell or
iron skillet etc. an inch from your ear the low frequency
components will be more prominent than if you strike it
at arms length. There are tones in that triangle file
that simply would not be heard at all from 10 feet away.

I'm still struggling to determine what the mechanism would be for this.

[Jenn]

In article .com,
wrote:

Jenn wrote:
In article om,
wrote:

Both sound like real "instruments" to me. However, by miking so closely
[snip]

TB

Hi TB,

Respectfully, there's no way in hell that those are real acoustic
instruments. It is a synth. The triangle is real; a terrible
instrument, but real.

Note that in the above post I was refering only to the triangle and the
kitchen utensil, not the "trumpets" etc.

TB

I see; sorry about that.

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in
message



Respectfully, there's no way in hell that those are real
acoustic instruments. It is a synth.

Please correct me if I'm wrong Jenn, but your hypothesis is that real
trumpet players can never ever play that closely to perfect pitch and hold a
note that steadily, that long.

You're close to part of it. Acoustic trumpets or (French Horns in the
"French Horns" file) played by humans cannot play that well in tune.
The "Trumpets" file contains notes not playable by trumpets. There is
no shift in timbre when the range shifts, particularly at the overtone
breaks of the instruments. These are SOME of the clues.

[[email protected]]

Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message

No, I mean if you (lightly!) strike a triangle or bell or
iron skillet etc. an inch from your ear the low frequency
components will be more prominent than if you strike it
at arms length. There are tones in that triangle file
that simply would not be heard at all from 10 feet away.

I'm still struggling to determine what the mechanism would be for this.

How about you do the test and see for yourself?

TB

[Arny Krueger]

wrote in message
ups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message

No, I mean if you (lightly!) strike a triangle or bell
or iron skillet etc. an inch from your ear the low
frequency components will be more prominent than if you
strike it at arms length. There are tones in that
triangle file that simply would not be heard at all
from 10 feet away.

I'm still struggling to determine what the mechanism
would be for this.

How about you do the test and see for yourself?

The equipment used in the orgional test is pretty much fully dispersed.
Note from http://www.pcabx.comtechnical/sample_rates/index.htm that the
original test was done around 3/2001.

[[email protected]]

Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com
How about you do the test and see for yourself?

The equipment used in the orgional test is pretty much fully dispersed.
Note from http://www.pcabx.comtechnical/sample_rates/index.htm that the
original test was done around 3/2001.

So your ear is fully dispersed? Can't find an iron skillet?

The test I described needs no more than those two things. I think
you've been "plugged in" too long.

TB

[Arny Krueger]

wrote in message
ups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com
How about you do the test and see for yourself?

The equipment used in the orgional test is pretty much
fully dispersed. Note from
http://www.pcabx.com/technical/sample_rates/index.htm
that the original test was done around 3/2001.

So your ear is fully dispersed? Can't find an iron
skillet?

Please have a little patience. I don't know what effect I'm supposed to be
testing for.

The test I described needs no more than those two things.

I think that would result in a number of uncontrolled variables.

[[email protected]]

Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com
How about you do the test and see for yourself?

The equipment used in the orgional test is pretty much
fully dispersed. Note from
http://www.pcabx.com/technical/sample_rates/index.htm
that the original test was done around 3/2001.

So your ear is fully dispersed? Can't find an iron
skillet?

Please have a little patience. I don't know what effect I'm supposed to be
testing for.

The test I described needs no more than those two things.

I think that would result in a number of uncontrolled variables.

I give up.

TB

[Jenn]

In article . com,
wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com
How about you do the test and see for yourself?

The equipment used in the orgional test is pretty much
fully dispersed. Note from
http://www.pcabx.com/technical/sample_rates/index.htm
that the original test was done around 3/2001.

So your ear is fully dispersed? Can't find an iron
skillet?

Please have a little patience. I don't know what effect I'm supposed to be
testing for.

The test I described needs no more than those two things.

I think that would result in a number of uncontrolled variables.

I give up.

TB

lol

[George M. Middius]

Timmy said:

I give up.

..... and another Kroopologist bites the dust.





--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[paul packer]

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:08:23 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



Timmy said:

I give up.

.... and another Kroopologist bites the dust.

Are there any left?

[dizzy]

Arny Krueger wrote:

"dizzy" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

Whatever you say, lady. ;-)

Arny: Seek professional help.

Yeah, that was a really nasty thing I just said to Jenn. Just horrible of me
to be agreeable. What atrocity might I commit next?

Your claim that you were being "agreeable" is dishonest. It was very
clearly a sarcastic comment.

[Mr Fox]

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 02:14:48 GMT, dizzy wrote:

Whatever you say, lady. ;-)

Arny: Seek professional help.

Yeah, that was a really nasty thing I just said to Jenn. Just horrible of me
to be agreeable. What atrocity might I commit next?

Your claim that you were being "agreeable" is dishonest. It was very
clearly a sarcastic comment.

It's actually worse than that.

[Bertie the Bunyip]

Eeyore wrote in
:



"George M. Middius" wrote:

The Krooborg confirms the well-known diagnosis.

I'm 100% accountable for my statements and there is
nothing weird about them, which bugs you to no end.

Whatever you say, lady. ;-)

Arnii, I know about your legendary cheapness and all, but at this
point in your "life", you can surely afford to spring for one session
with a dominatrix. Stop putting it off and just get it over with.

No, no ! That should have been.....

" Whatever you say, mistress. "



Feeling a yearning for having a tangerine stuffed into your orifices there
brit boi?


Bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip]

Eeyore wrote in
:



Arny Krueger wrote:

"Jenn" wrote
Eeyore wrote:

Please - for your own good, take a break ( say 1-2 weeks
) from Usenet. NOW !

You misspelled "years".

Yeah Jenn, just think how much *good* you could do if I wasn't trying to
hold you accountable for your weirdness.

I see no weirdness from Jenn.


I'm sure Jenn is thrilled to bits.



Fjukktard.


Bertie

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" said:


Paul, you have to be one of the most delusional people I know. Either that
or a habitual writer of fantasy. Your most obviouis fantasy is your
continual representation that you have even half a brain. Go play with
Middius and Jenn. The three of you make a nice party.


What happened to Marc, Howard, Graham or me, Arny?

Did you notice you've made some new enemies last week?

You manage to even alienate people who largely agreed with you in the
past.

Graham Stevenson, Stewart Pinkerton, Howard Ferstler, Jim Johnston,
Dick Pierce, John Feng, Michael McKelvy, they all accepted and
respected my approach to hobby audio, and they all turned away fro you
as a person.
You're the only one raging against my preference, calling me names
like tube- and vinyl bigot.

Way to go, Arny!
You're a martyr, for sure! ;-)

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[Sander deWaal]

"Arny Krueger" said:


Arny: Seek professional help.


Yeah, that was a really nasty thing I just said to Jenn. Just horrible of me
to be agreeable. What atrocity might I commit next?


Let's not go there.

--
"Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks."

[George M. Middius]

Sander deWaal said:

Way to go, Arny!
You're a martyr, for sure! ;-)

Can we take that notion from the figurative to the literal?





--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Mr Fox]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:59:39 +0200, Sander deWaal
wrote:

"Arny Krueger" said:


Arny: Seek professional help.


Yeah, that was a really nasty thing I just said to Jenn. Just horrible of me
to be agreeable. What atrocity might I commit next?


Let's not go there.


Too late; his fatwa on the world of audio is already underway

[Mr Fox]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:29:08 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:


Sander deWaal said:

Way to go, Arny!
You're a martyr, for sure! ;-)

Can we take that notion from the figurative to the literal?



He might literally go away if you stop talking about him all the time.

[Jenn]

In article ,
Sander deWaal wrote:

"Arny Krueger" said:


Paul, you have to be one of the most delusional people I know. Either that
or a habitual writer of fantasy. Your most obviouis fantasy is your
continual representation that you have even half a brain. Go play with
Middius and Jenn. The three of you make a nice party.


What happened to Marc, Howard, Graham or me, Arny?

Did you notice you've made some new enemies last week?

You manage to even alienate people who largely agreed with you in the
past.

Graham Stevenson, Stewart Pinkerton, Howard Ferstler, Jim Johnston,
Dick Pierce, John Feng, Michael McKelvy, they all accepted and
respected my approach to hobby audio, and they all turned away fro you
as a person.
You're the only one raging against my preference, calling me names
like tube- and vinyl bigot.

Way to go, Arny!
You're a martyr, for sure! ;-)

He does create his own reality, doesn't he?

[paul packer]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:29:08 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote:



Sander deWaal said:

Way to go, Arny!
You're a martyr, for sure! ;-)

Can we take that notion from the figurative to the literal?

Resist the temptation, George. You can't post from prison.

[George M. Middius]

paul packer said:

Way to go, Arny!
You're a martyr, for sure! ;-)

Can we take that notion from the figurative to the literal?

Resist the temptation, George. You can't post from prison.

Borgicide has never been a scenario embraced by the Resistance. Rather, we
try to raise the Beast's self-awareness just enough for it to realize how
truly horrible its existence is. If we can achieve that goal, only a small
shove will be needed to induce the Krooborg to escape its artificially
enhanced, but still mortal, existence.




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Eeyore]

"George M. Middius" wrote:

paul packer said:

Way to go, Arny!
You're a martyr, for sure! ;-)

Can we take that notion from the figurative to the literal?

Resist the temptation, George. You can't post from prison.

Borgicide has never been a scenario embraced by the Resistance. Rather, we
try to raise the Beast's self-awareness just enough for it to realize how
truly horrible its existence is. If we can achieve that goal, only a small
shove will be needed to induce the Krooborg to escape its artificially
enhanced, but still mortal, existence.

Your problem is that with no Borg to justify your existence your energy source will simply run out.

Graham

[Bertie the Bunyip]

Eeyore wrote in
:



"George M. Middius" wrote:

paul packer said:

Way to go, Arny!
You're a martyr, for sure! ;-)

Can we take that notion from the figurative to the literal?

Resist the temptation, George. You can't post from prison.

Borgicide has never been a scenario embraced by the Resistance.
Rather, we try to raise the Beast's self-awareness just enough for it
to realize how truly horrible its existence is. If we can achieve
that goal, only a small shove will be needed to induce the Krooborg
to escape its artificially enhanced, but still mortal, existence.

Your problem is that with no Borg to justify your existence your
energy source will simply run out.



Lame


Bertie

[Eeyore]

Stuart Krivis wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:48:12 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote:
paul packer said:

Way to go, Arny!
You're a martyr, for sure! ;-)

Can we take that notion from the figurative to the literal?

Resist the temptation, George. You can't post from prison.

Borgicide has never been a scenario embraced by the Resistance. Rather, we
try to raise the Beast's self-awareness just enough for it to realize how
truly horrible its existence is. If we can achieve that goal, only a small
shove will be needed to induce the Krooborg to escape its artificially
enhanced, but still mortal, existence.

Your problem is that with no Borg to justify your existence your energy source will simply run out.

So if Arny stopped posting, Middius would implode?

If only ! He'd just gradually run down. It's a little known fact that he's an assimilant himself but one
on the 'dark side'.

Graham

[Bertie the Bunyip]

Eeyore wrote in
:



Stuart Krivis wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:48:12 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote:
paul packer said:

Way to go, Arny!
You're a martyr, for sure! ;-)

Can we take that notion from the figurative to the literal?

Resist the temptation, George. You can't post from prison.

Borgicide has never been a scenario embraced by the Resistance.
Rather, we try to raise the Beast's self-awareness just enough for
it to realize how truly horrible its existence is. If we can
achieve that goal, only a small shove will be needed to induce the
Krooborg to escape its artificially enhanced, but still mortal,
existence.

Your problem is that with no Borg to justify your existence your
energy source will simply run out.

So if Arny stopped posting, Middius would implode?

If only ! He'd just gradually run down. It's a little known fact that
he's an assimilant himself but one on the 'dark side'.

Why don't you just netkkop him as is your usual MO, fjukkwit?


bertie

[Bertie the Bunyip]

Eeyore wrote in
:



mimus wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 02:10:59 +0000, paul packer wrote:

On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:43:55 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

Eeyore wrote in
:

"George M. Middius" wrote:

paul packer said:

Way to go, Arny!
You're a martyr, for sure! ;-)

Can we take that notion from the figurative to the literal?

Resist the temptation, George. You can't post from prison.

Borgicide has never been a scenario embraced by the Resistance.
Rather, we try to raise the Beast's self-awareness just enough
for it to realize how truly horrible its existence is. If we can
achieve that goal, only a small shove will be needed to induce
the Krooborg to escape its artificially enhanced, but still
mortal, existence.

Your problem is that with no Borg to justify your existence your
energy source will simply run out.

Would you like to drop off.

Or post sensibly.

Your choice.

Lookit what happened to Burt Gummer when the USSR collapsed.

(What _have_ you dragged in now, Bertie?)

--


smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

Never underestimate the power of slime.

_The Making of_ Tremors

DIE Meower !

Graham

Fluffy's dead btw.


God you're pathetic, Graham.



Bertie

[Arny Krueger]

"Eeyore" wrote in
message
Arny Krueger wrote:

"Jenn" wrote
Eeyore wrote:

Please - for your own good, take a break ( say 1-2
weeks ) from Usenet. NOW !

You misspelled "years".

Yeah Jenn, just think how much *good* you could do if I
wasn't trying to hold you accountable for your weirdness.

I see no weirdness from Jenn.

You'll get over *it*.

[[email protected]]

Jenn wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com
How about you do the test and see for yourself?

The equipment used in the orgional test is pretty much
fully dispersed. Note from
http://www.pcabx.com/technical/sample_rates/index.htm
that the original test was done around 3/2001.

So your ear is fully dispersed? Can't find an iron
skillet?

Please have a little patience. I don't know what effect I'm supposed to be
testing for.

The test I described needs no more than those two things.

I think that would result in a number of uncontrolled variables.

I give up.

TB

lol

Apologies for returning to an old thread - I have long stretches where
I don't have time to go low-priority surfing.

I now see why I couldn't have a coherent conversation with Arny. How
could someone who makes hundreds of posts in a short period follow a
non-confrontational discussion?

TB