"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
take a look over on news:alt.audio.pro.live-sound where
Arny
is regarded as nothing more than a blowhard and where he's
completely humiliated himself over the last couple of
days.

If Phildo's ego wasn't such a bleeding mess, he'd have no
need to do this.

If your ego wasn't so over-inflated that you wouldn't listen to everyone on
AAPLS telling you what a prick you are I thought some of your other friends
may be able to make you see sense.

Now, Phildo has brought the whole RAO contingent of mental
midgets into AAPLS to work it over.

No, you did Arny. Crossposting is bad.

Phildo, I regret hurting you so badly in our little debate.

Have you ever thought about seeing a shrink regarding your delusions?

Everyone's laughing at you Arny.

Phildo

Phildo said:

take a look over on news:alt.audio.pro.live-sound where Arny is regarded as
nothing more than a blowhard and where he's completely humiliated himself
over the last couple of days.

The Krooger phenomenon is pernicious. We've been afflicted with Mr. **** for
years on RAO. You captured one aspect of Krooger's pathetic existence with
this:

"You would LOVE to do the job we do though as your jealousy comes through in
every post you make."

Krooger is a complete phoney, a bladder of self-serving snot.

Suffice to say his name is mud over there and with good reason. His infamous
"FOH" post has to be seen to be believed.

Can you point to this post? I'm sure some RAOers would be interested.

Phildo said:

Have you ever thought about seeing a shrink regarding your delusions?

Unfortunately, Krooger is too deeply ensconced in his psychosis to realize
he might be treatable.

"Phildo" wrote in message
...

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
take a look over on news:alt.audio.pro.live-sound where
Arny
is regarded as nothing more than a blowhard and where he's
completely humiliated himself over the last couple of
days.

If Phildo's ego wasn't such a bleeding mess, he'd have no
need to do this.

If your ego wasn't so over-inflated that you wouldn't listen to everyone
on AAPLS telling you what a prick you are I thought some of your other
friends may be able to make you see sense.


Have y'all been "lying" to Arny? Arny gets really frustrated when people
"lie" to him which happens every time he attempts to interact with people.
Even Google "lies" to him.


Cheers,

Margaret


PS. It is good to see that Arny is making friends elsewhere too.

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote
in message ...


Phildo said:

take a look over on news:alt.audio.pro.live-sound where Arny is regarded
as
nothing more than a blowhard and where he's completely humiliated himself
over the last couple of days.

The Krooger phenomenon is pernicious. We've been afflicted with Mr. ****
for
years on RAO. You captured one aspect of Krooger's pathetic existence with
this:

"You would LOVE to do the job we do though as your jealousy comes through
in
every post you make."

Krooger is a complete phoney, a bladder of self-serving snot.

Suffice to say his name is mud over there and with good reason. His
infamous
"FOH" post has to be seen to be believed.

Can you point to this post? I'm sure some RAOers would be interested.

We were discussing monitor mixes. I'm sure you all know already but FOH
means the mix the audience hears and FOH (Front Of House) is where the
mixing desk normally goes.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Phildo" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

You seem to have forgotten the most important considearation - what
do his mixes sound like to you?

Try reading his post again Arny. He covered that part already:

quote I mean, the quality of the mix is okay, but its not great.end
quote

Oh, it was such a weak statement that it shot right under my feet.

It sounds to me like he's obsessing over something that someone else might
be doing well enough. It also seems like he doesn't know how to do the
thing
that he's judging. If he thinks that he could do a better FOH mix himself
by
other means, then he should know it and say it.

People are saying strange dogmatic things about FOH mixes. For example:

"Not a good way to Mix - I always Tell people that the headphones are for
troubleshooting only. Mixing through headphones as you realise means that
you are not mixing what people are hearing."

Obviously, this writer is not considering the possibility that the FOH mix
is being listened to over IEMs. There's a pretty good chance in a 21st
century church that the music director IS onstage performing, directing
and
listening to the FOH mix over a headset. So, now its always bad to mix
with
phones when the mix is going to be listened to, particularly by the boss
man, with phones?

The next possibility that is not being considered is the possibility that
the FOH mix is being done by someone who isn't in the same sound field as
the performers. In fact, this is pretty likely unless the FOH mixer is one
of the performers.

Let's be real, the FOH sound is not usually all that consistent over the
whole stage. It's not like there's just one mix that is going to make
everybody happy. If there's just one FOH mix, it's a pretty thoroughly
compromised thing, anyhow. For example, how is it that I have two stage
mixes? Well the piano is at stage right about 5' from the performers on
the
right of the stage.The performers at stage right feel they are getting
blasted by piano if there is piano in their mix, so they get a mix w/o
piano. Then, the clav is at stage left about 5' from the performers over
there, and so on.

If there's a dedicated FOH mixer, then he's not likely to be at the BOH,
but
why are people saying such categorical things when in general, there's a
pretty good chance that the FOH mixer is a one guy doing it all, and in
the
BOH (more usual) or mid-hall (on a good day).

I'm a bit amused by such a simplistic situation that there is just one FOH
mix. I have to manage 4 FOH mixes - left stage, right stage, choir loft
and
pianist. The only one that is in any sense optional is the choir loft.
Now,
exactly how I do a reasonble job of monitoring 4 separate FOH mixes from
the
BOH without headphones?

Another thing to consider is the fact that the FOH mix should be a
relatively static thing. It's purpose is to give the performers feedback,
and if someone is changing gain all the time, the performer's don't have
consistent feedback.

Finally, why are people presuming that nobody can translate what they hear
over phones into a good FOH mix? I guess they think that since they can't
do
it, nobody can.


You can find the whole amusing and totally humiliating (for Arny) thread at
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...be6c965f022b9b

Arny needs serious medical help. I don't think I have ever come across
someone so delusional.

Phildo

"Phildo" wrote in message



Arny needs serious medical help. I don't think I have ever
come across someone so delusional.

Phildo is a perfectly normal happy person.

Normal happy people stalk others around Usenet.

Phildo is just ****sed that over on AAPLS I made an allusion
to people who were hateful bigots. I didn't without mention
Phido's name, but one of his good buddies jumped right up
and identified him by name.

Yup, Phildo is a picture of normalicy and peace.

In article , "Phildo"
wrote:

You can find the whole amusing and totally humiliating (for Arny) thread at
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...wse_frm/thread
/9280cceabc2bf6fa/66be6c965f022b9b?tvc=1&q=exactly+how+I+do+a+reason ble+job+of
+monitoring+4+separate+FOH+mixes+from+the#66be6c96 5f022b9b

Arny needs serious medical help. I don't think I have ever come across
someone so delusional.

Amazing. Arny graciously admitted error after consulting references.
More typically Arny is the "training wheels" comment which seems humble
enough, but it comes in answer to being accused of holding himself up as
an expert. I guess he learned that from RAP.

OTOH, while not picking up on "FOH" is kinda slow, if one is working in
isolation from sound professionals, one can make mistakes like that.

Stephen

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
OTOH, while not picking up on "FOH" is kinda slow, if one is working in
isolation from sound professionals, one can make mistakes like that.

You need to realise that FOH is a VERY common term when talking about live
sound and is used in many posts on the newsgroup daily.

Arny had been posting there for FIVE YEARS before he made that post.

He's now trying to tell us he is vastly over-qualified to do live sound
because he has an engineering degree. He did try to claim he had a masters
degree at one point then made the admission he never actually finished the
course.

Phildo

"Arny Krueger" wrote in news:wcednVzW2Kj64kbfRVn-
:

"Phildo" wrote in message

"tubeguy" wrote in message
. ..
I have met him and he is a good guy. I like him. What
your
collective bent about this guy is I do not understand.
Arnie
is a good guy and does not deserve the bashing any group
has
given him.

take a look over on news:alt.audio.pro.live-sound where
Arny
is regarded as nothing more than a blowhard and where he's
completely humiliated himself over the last couple of
days.

If Phildo's ego wasn't such a bleeding mess, he'd have no
need to do this.

Now, Phildo has brought the whole RAO contingent of mental
midgets into AAPLS to work it over.

Phildo, I regret hurting you so badly in our little debate.




Yup Arny
the entire rest of this NG is wrong and your right
It seems when dozens of people are telling you that your full of ****
perhaps you ought consider that these opinion are valid
George

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Phildo" wrote in message



Arny needs serious medical help. I don't think I have ever
come across someone so delusional.

Phildo is a perfectly normal happy person.

Normal happy people stalk others around Usenet.

Hey, someone mentioned how popular you were on this newsgroup. Seems people
just love you all over usenet. Doesn't that tell you anything Arny?

Phildo is just ****sed that over on AAPLS I made an allusion
to people who were hateful bigots.

Now this is what ****es me off about Arny. He makes a thinly-veiled,
cowardly attack where he mentions no specific names although everyone knows
who he is talking about then acts all innocent when pulled up on it. He also
tries to pass ghimself off as an expert but in reality knows jack **** about
live sound and only gets to use a mixing desk because he volunteers at his
church where nobody else wants the job. Now he's trying to tell us he's done
sound for Dave Brubeck and the Village People.

I didn't without mention
Phido's name, but one of his good buddies jumped right up
and identified him by name.

Or rather they pointed out what a coward you were for not using the name
even though it was patently obvious who you were talking about (me) and then
pulled you up because what you said was indeed completely wrong.

Yup, Phildo is a picture of normalicy and peace.

Arny, you need serious professional health. Please get yourself to a shrink
as soon as possible or get yourself committed.

If enough of us get together can't we have him sectioned or something?

Phildo

In article , "Phildo"
wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
OTOH, while not picking up on "FOH" is kinda slow, if one is working in
isolation from sound professionals, one can make mistakes like that.

You need to realise that FOH is a VERY common term when talking about live
sound and is used in many posts on the newsgroup daily.

Arny had been posting there for FIVE YEARS before he made that post.

Make that "really slow." Maybe his board isn't labeled 'house' and
'monitor.'

He's now trying to tell us he is vastly over-qualified to do live sound
because he has an engineering degree. He did try to claim he had a masters
degree at one point then made the admission he never actually finished the
course.

I see. You may know more and do a better job, but he's still superior to
you.

Keep him busy, and off RAO!

Stephen

"Phildo" wrote in message
...
Can you point to this post? I'm sure some RAOers would be interested.

We were discussing monitor mixes. I'm sure you all know already but FOH
means the mix the audience hears and FOH (Front Of House) is where the
mixing desk normally goes.

By the way, you also need to know that Arny had been trying to pass himself
off as an expert in live sound for FIVE YEARS on this newsgroup when he made
this post and that FOH is a term used daily in many posts on the newsgroup,
central to many posts.

Phildo

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
You need to realise that FOH is a VERY common term when talking about
live
sound and is used in many posts on the newsgroup daily.

Arny had been posting there for FIVE YEARS before he made that post.

Make that "really slow." Maybe his board isn't labeled 'house' and
'monitor.'

Doesn't matter. It's a basic term for anyone who is involved in live sound
and he tried to pass himself off as an expert for 5 years without even
knowing the basics. It's like someone saying they can fly a plane when they
don't know where the cockpit is.

He's now trying to tell us he is vastly over-qualified to do live sound
because he has an engineering degree. He did try to claim he had a
masters
degree at one point then made the admission he never actually finished
the
course.

I see. You may know more and do a better job, but he's still superior to
you.

How the hell do you work that one out? Seems you are as delusional as he is.
Now he's going on about how he's upper class and therefore better than
everybody else. The guy is paranoid delusional with an ego bigger than
Orange County.

Keep him busy, and off RAO!

Keeping him out of real life would be better. He needs serious professional
help.

Phildo

"George Gleason" wrote in message
...
Yup Arny
the entire rest of this NG is wrong and your right
It seems when dozens of people are telling you that your full of ****
perhaps you ought consider that these opinion are valid

His ego is too over-inflated for him to ever consider something like that
George.

Paranoid delusional with an ego bigger than Orange County.

He needs serious professional help.

Phildo

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
. ..
PS. It is good to see that Arny is making friends elsewhere too.

Does anyone happen to have the details of the church Arny goes to?

Maybe we could get the pastor there and the people who have to suffer him to
get him sectioned or at least get him the medical help he so desperately
needs?

Phildo

Phildo said:

He's now trying to tell us he is vastly over-qualified to do live sound
because he has an engineering degree. He did try to claim he had a masters
degree at one point then made the admission he never actually finished the
course.

I see. You may know more and do a better job, but he's still superior to
you.

How the hell do you work that one out? Seems you are as delusional as he is.

Calm down. Stephen was demonstrating Kroologic using the time-honored (but
'borg-proof) technique of mockery.

It's axiomatic that no matter how bluntly and how frequently you mock the
Krooborg, he never EVER gets it. EVER.

In article , "Phildo"
wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
You need to realise that FOH is a VERY common term when talking about
live
sound and is used in many posts on the newsgroup daily.

Arny had been posting there for FIVE YEARS before he made that post.

Make that "really slow." Maybe his board isn't labeled 'house' and
'monitor.'

Doesn't matter. It's a basic term for anyone who is involved in live sound
and he tried to pass himself off as an expert for 5 years without even
knowing the basics. It's like someone saying they can fly a plane when they
don't know where the cockpit is.

He's been here seven years.

He's now trying to tell us he is vastly over-qualified to do live sound
because he has an engineering degree. He did try to claim he had a
masters
degree at one point then made the admission he never actually finished
the course.

I see. You may know more and do a better job, but he's still superior to
you.

How the hell do you work that one out?

I call it, 'paraphrasing."

Seems you are as delusional as he is.

Saving your "A game" for Arny? Read again.

Now he's going on about how he's upper class and therefore better than
everybody else.

Hey, you can paraphrase too!

The guy is paranoid delusional with an ego bigger than
Orange County.

We have theories here, too.

Keep him busy, and off RAO!

Keeping him out of real life would be better. He needs serious professional
help.

Don't bug his church.

Stephen

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
The guy is paranoid delusional with an ego bigger than
Orange County.

We have theories here, too.

Those aren't theories, they're facts.

Keep him busy, and off RAO!

Keeping him out of real life would be better. He needs serious
professional
help.

Don't bug his church.

Nah, much as I hate him, the guy needs help and those are the best people to
give it to him. I'll be contacting his pastor later tonight.

Phildo

"Phildo" wrote in message



Nah, much as I hate him, the guy needs help and those are
the
best people to give it to him. I'll be contacting his
pastor
later tonight.

That's going to be hard for Phildo to do since I'm having
dinner with him (the pastor) tonight.

BTW Phildo, since its public knowlege, but not totally
obvious, why not post my pastor's phone number?

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Phildo" wrote in message



Nah, much as I hate him, the guy needs help and those are
the
best people to give it to him. I'll be contacting his
pastor
later tonight.

That's going to be hard for Phildo to do since I'm having
dinner with him (the pastor) tonight.

Oh well, I shall try him another time. Let him know I will be in touch.

BTW Phildo, since its public knowlege, but not totally
obvious, why not post my pastor's phone number?

You should know it's bad netiquette to do that Arny. Anyway, I shall try and
find an email address for him instead so I can send him some links to your
less-than-glorious moments on usenet. That way he can see for himself just
how badly you need help.

Phildo

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Phildo" wrote in message



Nah, much as I hate him, the guy needs help and those are
the
best people to give it to him. I'll be contacting his
pastor
later tonight.

That's going to be hard for Phildo to do since I'm having
dinner with him (the pastor) tonight.


As Arny would say, one dirty hand dines with another. :-)

Cheers,

Margaret

In article , "Phildo"
wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
The guy is paranoid delusional with an ego bigger than
Orange County.

We have theories here, too.

Those aren't theories, they're facts.

How much bigger than Orange County is his ego? Please be precise.

Keep him busy, and off RAO!

Keeping him out of real life would be better. He needs serious
professional
help.

Don't bug his church.

Nah, much as I hate him, the guy needs help and those are the best people to
give it to him. I'll be contacting his pastor later tonight.

Keep it in the sandbox. I'm sure the people at his church already know
him.

Stephen

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
Keeping him out of real life would be better. He needs serious
professional
help.

Don't bug his church.

Nah, much as I hate him, the guy needs help and those are the best people
to
give it to him. I'll be contacting his pastor later tonight.

Keep it in the sandbox. I'm sure the people at his church already know
him.

Somehow I doubt it or else they'd have tried to help him already. My guess
is that none of them have a clue about his internet life. Is proving hard to
track down though so if anyone knows which church he worships at please let
me know.

Phildo

"MINe 109" wrote in message

In article , "Phildo"
wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message

...

Don't bug his church.

Nah, much as I hate him, the guy needs help and those are
the
best people to give it to him. I'll be contacting his
pastor
later tonight.

Keep it in the sandbox. I'm sure the people at his church
already know him.

Oh come on Stephen, you turned him onto the idea of
attacking me in the outside world.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

Keep it in the sandbox. I'm sure the people at his church
already know him.

Oh come on Stephen, you turned him onto the idea of
attacking me in the outside world.

We're not attacking you Arny. You are mentally ill and we are trying to get
you the help you so desperately need.

If you could admit the problem to yourself it would be a good start but
sadly you won't so we have to go to your friends to see if they can do
something. Maybe have you committed or get you to a psychiatrist, just until
you get well again.

You seeing it as an attack speaks volumes about how you know you have a
problem but cannot face dealing with it yourself. It's time to get help
Arny.

Phildo

Phildo said:

Arny, you need serious professional health. Please get yourself to a shrink
as soon as possible or get yourself committed.

If enough of us get together can't we have him sectioned or something?

It might be more effective to persuade Turdy to explore the bottom of Lake
Superior. It's hard to imagine he's not sick of it all by now.

"Phildo" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

Keep it in the sandbox. I'm sure the people at his
church
already know him.

Oh come on Stephen, you turned him onto the idea of
attacking me in the outside world.

We're not attacking you Arny. You are mentally ill and we
are
trying to get you the help you so desperately need.

So Phildo, are you saying that you are trained to make these
kinds of determinations?

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
We're not attacking you Arny. You are mentally ill and we
are
trying to get you the help you so desperately need.

So Phildo, are you saying that you are trained to make these
kinds of determinations?

No, as usual you are putting your words into somebody else's mouth.

In your case it is painfully obvious that you need help. You are mentally
ill Arny, get help, if not for your sake then for the people around you.

Phildo

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote
in message ...


Phildo said:

Arny, you need serious professional health. Please get yourself to a
shrink
as soon as possible or get yourself committed.

If enough of us get together can't we have him sectioned or something?

It might be more effective to persuade Turdy to explore the bottom of Lake
Superior. It's hard to imagine he's not sick of it all by now.

Nah, get him help. You never know, one day you too may go insane and someone
might do the same thing for you.

So, anyone know which church he's in or even narrow it down to a town or
district? Is taking me ages going through google. Jeez, Arny has posted some
crap in his time.

Phildo

"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
[dot] net wrote in message

Phildo said:

Arny, you need serious professional health. Please get
yourself to a shrink as soon as possible or get yourself
committed.

If enough of us get together can't we have him sectioned
or
something?

What is sectioning, Phildo?

It might be more effective to persuade Turdy to explore
the
bottom of Lake Superior.
]
Been there done that. Here's a clue George - its not all 500
feet deep.

It's hard to imagine he's not sick of it all by now.

It's kind of interesting to see what kind of sickness
manifests itself next on RAO. We've had Phildo and Morien
melt down severely on the same day.

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message

In article , "Phildo"
wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message

...

Don't bug his church.

Nah, much as I hate him, the guy needs help and those are
the
best people to give it to him. I'll be contacting his
pastor
later tonight.

Keep it in the sandbox. I'm sure the people at his church
already know him.

Oh come on Stephen, you turned him onto the idea of
attacking me in the outside world.

Perhaps if you reread the post to which I responded, you will find that
you are mistaken.

Stephen

"Phildo" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
We're not attacking you Arny. You are mentally ill and
we
are
trying to get you the help you so desperately need.

So Phildo, are you saying that you are trained to make
these
kinds of determinations?

No, as usual you are putting your words into somebody
else's
mouth.

In your case it is painfully obvious that you need help.

Why?

Please explain?

"MINe 109" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message


In article , "Phildo"
wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message


...

Don't bug his church.

Nah, much as I hate him, the guy needs help and those
are
the
best people to give it to him. I'll be contacting his
pastor
later tonight.

Keep it in the sandbox. I'm sure the people at his
church
already know him.

Oh come on Stephen, you turned him onto the idea of
attacking me in the outside world.

Perhaps if you reread the post to which I responded, you
will
find that you are mistaken.

Perhaps I find that you piled right onto it.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Phildo" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
We're not attacking you Arny. You are mentally ill and
we
are
trying to get you the help you so desperately need.

So Phildo, are you saying that you are trained to make
these
kinds of determinations?

No, as usual you are putting your words into somebody
else's
mouth.

In your case it is painfully obvious that you need help.

Why?

Please explain?

Arny, go back and read your posts over the last couple of days. It should
become very evident to anyone who does that you are seriously mentally ill
and need help. If you can't see that you need help then ask someone else to
read your posts and get their opinion. Do you really think all those people
that posted against you can possibly be wrong? Does the fact that not one
single person stepped in to defend you not tell you something?

Please Arny, get help while you still can.

Phildo

Phildo said:

So, anyone know which church he's in or even narrow it down to a town or
district? Is taking me ages going through google. Jeez, Arny has posted some
crap in his time.

I think you're spinning your wheels, but if you search the RAO posts in the
Google archive, you'll find out the truth.

MINe 109 said:

Keep it in the sandbox. I'm sure the people at his church
already know him.

Oh come on Stephen, you turned him onto the idea of
attacking me in the outside world.

Perhaps if you reread the post to which I responded, you will find that
you are mistaken.

Sorry, Krooger is on a "debating trade" roll now. Facts be damned, and full
snot ahead!

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message


In article , "Phildo"
wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message


...

Don't bug his church.

Nah, much as I hate him, the guy needs help and those
are
the
best people to give it to him. I'll be contacting his
pastor
later tonight.

Keep it in the sandbox. I'm sure the people at his
church
already know him.

Oh come on Stephen, you turned him onto the idea of
attacking me in the outside world.

Perhaps if you reread the post to which I responded, you
will
find that you are mistaken.

Perhaps I find that you piled right onto it.

I do not think he should try to make trouble for you in real life and I
said as much.

Rereading the thread, I see that his stated intent to call your pastor
was in a different post than that to which I responded. Be that as it
may, you are still mistaken if you think the idea originated with me.

Stephen

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
I do not think he should try to make trouble for you in real life and I
said as much.

Why is it you and Arny see it as making trouble for him in real life? He is
sick and this is the best way to get him the help he needs.

Phildo

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Phildo" wrote in message



Nah, much as I hate him, the guy needs help and those are
the
best people to give it to him. I'll be contacting his
pastor
later tonight.

That's going to be hard for Phildo to do since I'm having
dinner with him (the pastor) tonight.

So if I were to call your house on 313-XXX-9307 I would get hold of him
would I Arny?

I deleted 3 digits this time to save some of your fans on here from being
able to call you at home.

Phildo

In article , "Phildo"
wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message
...
I do not think he should try to make trouble for you in real life and I
said as much.

Why is it you and Arny see it as making trouble for him in real life? He is
sick and this is the best way to get him the help he needs.

The first is an opinion shared by many; the second is not.

Stephen