"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 08:40:34 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Art, your obsession with this activity would be consistent
with the rumor that you're Middius' chief rimmer.


It would be better if the turds just diasappeared.
Get lost!

I see you're back from your pan-Asian sexual tourism trip. ;-)

"Schizoid Man" wrote in message
...



I see you're back from your pan-Asian sexual tourism trip. ;-)


Did you bust a really good nut thinking about it?



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MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:


The experience itself paints a pretty nasty picture of
Atkinson. It has acceptance of weak proof painted all
over
it.

Or a "road to Damascas" moment akin to the one that led to
Stereophile
to begin with.

Why don't you tell us about that "Road To Damascas" moment
that led to the creation of Stereophile to begin with.

He cunningly anticipated the debate by publishing the
story in 1989.

http://www.stereophile.com/features/113/

...only about 9 years after it happened and during one of
the first big consumer-level pushes for ABX.

Who cares how long it took?

Clearly, nobody who has suspended disbelief in Sterephile's
weirdness...

JGH and Stereophile were open to ABX and
more-or-less accepted its premises at face value.

Good job of obfuscating the point that Atkinson who is
Sterephile's editor, was not open to ABX and only compares
it to a bogus standard.

Do you harbor a grudge, blaming Stereophile for somehow
preventing
mass consumer acceptance of an ABX product?

Given the consumer acceptance of PCABX, why would I care?

Stephen

Clyde Slick wrote:
"Schizoid Man" wrote in message
...



I see you're back from your pan-Asian sexual tourism
trip. ;-)


Did you bust a really good nut thinking about it?

Substitute gut for nut and see the truth.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

Given the consumer acceptance of PCABX, ................


They're coming to take you away, haha, to the funny farm.........



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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
Clyde Slick wrote:
"Schizoid Man" wrote in message
...



I see you're back from your pan-Asian sexual tourism
trip. ;-)


Did you bust a really good nut thinking about it?

Substitute gut for nut and see the truth.


Of course, it would work for you, as you derive enjoyment from abusing
children.



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tubeguy wrote:

"tubeguy" wrote in message
m...

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...

"tubeguy" wrote in message
om...

I have met him and he is a good guy. I like him. What your collective
bent
about this guy is I do not understand. Arnie is a good guy and does not
deserve the bashing any group has given him.

tubeguy
www.tubeguy.org


Sounds like another sockpuppet to me.


Nope, just a guy who has met Arnie. Back off. He's a dude who has been there
and back. I had lunch with him. He is a fine gentleman, and I would love to
see you all bring yourselves up to his level of discourse.

I've had several email exhanges with him over the years and he's
always seemed to be a decent enough guy.

OTOH...

He's a complete ass here in this group. I think it's his form
of entertainment to poke at the cages and see the nuts react
or something.

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:


The experience itself paints a pretty nasty picture of
Atkinson. It has acceptance of weak proof painted all
over
it.

Or a "road to Damascas" moment akin to the one that led to
Stereophile
to begin with.

Why don't you tell us about that "Road To Damascas" moment
that led to the creation of Stereophile to begin with.

Somehow JGH got the idea to do a subjective review magazine.

He cunningly anticipated the debate by publishing the
story in 1989.

http://www.stereophile.com/features/113/

...only about 9 years after it happened and during one of
the first big consumer-level pushes for ABX.

Who cares how long it took?

Clearly, nobody who has suspended disbelief in Sterephile's
weirdness...

Was it too soon or too late?

JGH and Stereophile were open to ABX and
more-or-less accepted its premises at face value.

Good job of obfuscating the point that Atkinson who is
Sterephile's editor, was not open to ABX and only compares
it to a bogus standard.

If it doesn't work, what's it good for?

Do you harbor a grudge, blaming Stereophile for somehow
preventing
mass consumer acceptance of an ABX product?

Given the consumer acceptance of PCABX, why would I care?

Would that you were so easily satisfied with other things.

Stephen

"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
k.net...


tubeguy wrote:

"tubeguy" wrote in message
m...

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...

"tubeguy" wrote in message
. com...

I have met him and he is a good guy. I like him. What your collective
bent
about this guy is I do not understand. Arnie is a good guy and does not
deserve the bashing any group has given him.

tubeguy
www.tubeguy.org


Sounds like another sockpuppet to me.


Nope, just a guy who has met Arnie. Back off. He's a dude who has been
there and back. I had lunch with him. He is a fine gentleman, and I would
love to see you all bring yourselves up to his level of discourse.

I've had several email exhanges with him over the years and he's
always seemed to be a decent enough guy.

OTOH...

He's a complete ass here in this group. I think it's his form
of entertainment to poke at the cages and see the nuts react
or something.


Arny is the caged urangotan in a zoo.
He just loves to defecate in front of his audience.



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Joseph Oberlander wrote:

He's a complete ass here in this group.

As if you've done anything here to be proud of, Joe.

I think it's his form of entertainment to poke at the
cages and see the nuts react
or something.

Doooh!

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:00:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Do you harbor a grudge, blaming Stereophile for somehow
preventing
mass consumer acceptance of an ABX product?

Given the consumer acceptance of PCABX, why would I care?

Yeah, since the consumer acceptance is miniscule, what does it really
matter?

dave weil said:

Yeah, since the consumer acceptance is miniscule, what does it really
matter?

Arnii & Tommi should run a raffle for a couple of aBxism torture boxes. If
they're so valuable, people will be lining up to buy tickets.

MINe 109 wrote:
In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:


The experience itself paints a pretty nasty picture of
Atkinson. It has acceptance of weak proof painted all
over
it.

Or a "road to Damascas" moment akin to the one that led
to
Stereophile to begin with.

Why don't you tell us about that "Road To Damascas"
moment
that led to the creation of Stereophile to begin with.

Somehow JGH got the idea to do a subjective review
magazine.

Could you be more vague Stephen? Why not just admit that you
didn't know what you were talking about?

There is a well-known story behind the creation of
Stereophile. You might do well to find out what it is.

He cunningly anticipated the debate by publishing the
story in
1989.

http://www.stereophile.com/features/113/

...only about 9 years after it happened and during one
of
the first big consumer-level pushes for ABX.

Who cares how long it took?

Clearly, nobody who has suspended disbelief in
Sterephile's
weirdness...

Was it too soon or too late?

Could you be more vague Stephen?

JGH and Stereophile were open to ABX and
more-or-less accepted its premises at face value.

Good job of obfuscating the point that Atkinson who is
Sterephile's editor, was not open to ABX and only
compares
it to a bogus standard.

If it doesn't work, what's it good for?

Good question. Stereophile doesn't work, so what is it good
for?

Do you harbor a grudge, blaming Stereophile for somehow
preventing
mass consumer acceptance of an ABX product?

Given the consumer acceptance of PCABX, why would I care?

Would that you were so easily satisfied with other things.

Apparently even my low standards are way too high for you,
Stephen.

Arny Krueger wrote:
MINe 109 wrote:

snip

Somehow JGH got the idea to do a subjective review
magazine.

Could you be more vague Stephen? Why not just admit that you
didn't know what you were talking about?

There is a well-known story behind the creation of
Stereophile. You might do well to find out what it is.


Here 'tis:


http://tinyurl.com/8h4ha


A quote from JGH on his experience at High Fidelity, which led him to
start Stereophile:

"I watched, first with incredulity and then with growing disgust, how
the purchase of a year's advertising contract could virtually insure a
manufacturer against publication of an unfavorable report."

Perhaps this is why JGH left Stereophile: what he had founded had
become that which disgusted him. :-(

wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote:
MINe 109 wrote:

snip

Somehow JGH got the idea to do a subjective review
magazine.

Could you be more vague Stephen? Why not just admit that
you
didn't know what you were talking about?

There is a well-known story behind the creation of
Stereophile. You might do well to find out what it is.


Here 'tis:


http://tinyurl.com/8h4ha


A quote from JGH on his experience at High Fidelity, which
led him to
start Stereophile:

"I watched, first with incredulity and then with growing
disgust, how
the purchase of a year's advertising contract could
virtually insure a
manufacturer against publication of an unfavorable
report."

Perhaps this is why JGH left Stereophile: what he had
founded had
become that which disgusted him. :-(

I find the following (from your reference) to be quite
ironic:

"To my continuing regret, J. Gordon Holt left Stereophile in
1999 for what he perceived to be greener pastures. But it is
my pleasure to announce that Art Dudley, until recently
editor of the now-defunct Listener magazine, will be joining
our extended family as a reviewer and columnist with the
January 2003 issue."

Comparing JGH to someone who I find to be a certifiable
crazy like Dudley is quite a thing to behold.

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:
In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:


The experience itself paints a pretty nasty picture of
Atkinson. It has acceptance of weak proof painted all
over
it.

Or a "road to Damascas" moment akin to the one that led
to
Stereophile to begin with.

Why don't you tell us about that "Road To Damascas"
moment
that led to the creation of Stereophile to begin with.

Somehow JGH got the idea to do a subjective review
magazine.

Could you be more vague Stephen? Why not just admit that you
didn't know what you were talking about?

He gradually realized that measurements-only reviews didn't tell him
enough about what components sounded like.

Sure, it was a long road, but so was JA's.

There is a well-known story behind the creation of
Stereophile. You might do well to find out what it is.

Wrote for an audio magazine, ran an audio company's newsletter, then his
own newletter, Stereophile.

Please, I'd like to know your version of how it all happened.

He cunningly anticipated the debate by publishing the
story in
1989.

http://www.stereophile.com/features/113/

...only about 9 years after it happened and during one
of
the first big consumer-level pushes for ABX.

Who cares how long it took?

Clearly, nobody who has suspended disbelief in
Sterephile's
weirdness...

Was it too soon or too late?

Could you be more vague Stephen?

Well, you're not giving me much to work with.

JGH and Stereophile were open to ABX and
more-or-less accepted its premises at face value.

Good job of obfuscating the point that Atkinson who is
Sterephile's editor, was not open to ABX and only
compares
it to a bogus standard.

If it doesn't work, what's it good for?

Good question. Stereophile doesn't work, so what is it good
for?

It's got pictures. And news and reviews. Oh, features! And lots of
measurements.

Do you harbor a grudge, blaming Stereophile for somehow
preventing
mass consumer acceptance of an ABX product?

Given the consumer acceptance of PCABX, why would I care?

Would that you were so easily satisfied with other things.

Apparently even my low standards are way too high for you,
Stephen.

You've got 'argumentative' down pat.

Stephen

Arnii the Kroo-Monkey squawked:

Doooh!

Real monkeys only play with their feces. Your manners are sub-primate.

MINe 109 wrote:


snipped

Somehow JGH got the idea to do a subjective review
magazine.

Could you be more vague Stephen? Why not just admit that you
didn't know what you were talking about?

He gradually realized that measurements-only reviews didn't tell him
enough about what components sounded like.


Let's not forget that JGH praised ABX as "the first significant
contribution to the audio field in years" some 20+ years *after* he
founded Stereophile. Clearly, JGH believed in listening both sighted
and blind. That's good for consumers, not so good for advertisers.


Sure, it was a long road, but so was JA's.


Unfortunately, JA's road has changed Stereophile into $tereopile. IOW,
the magazine is now just the kind of advertiser driven magazine that
led Holt to found the original Stereophile as an alternative in the
first place.

wrote:
MINe 109 wrote:


snipped

Somehow JGH got the idea to do a subjective review
magazine.

Could you be more vague Stephen? Why not just admit that
you
didn't know what you were talking about?

He gradually realized that measurements-only reviews
didn't tell him
enough about what components sounded like.

More specifically, JGH realized that in the late 1950s. It
seems that the radical subjectivists would like us to
believe that nothing changed related to measurements in the
past 50 years.

However, my quote shows that the most important motivator
for JGH in those days was not the then-retarded state of
measurements, but the way that advertisers changed editorial
policy in their favor.

Let's not forget that JGH praised ABX as "the first
significant
contribution to the audio field in years" some 20+ years
*after* he
founded Stereophile. Clearly, JGH believed in listening
both sighted
and blind. That's good for consumers, not so good for
advertisers.

JGH saw that DBTs could shed a lot of light on audio
controversies. JA seems to have realized that resolving
those controversies would have serious negative impact on
enough SP advertisers to hurt the magazine financially.

Sure, it was a long road, but so was JA's.

It seems like JA had too much formal education in hard
science to beg off on the grounds of ignorance. However, the
means that he used to resolve the apparent contradiction
between DBTs and his own listening perceptions looks pretty
much like an abandoment of science.

Unfortunately, JA's road has changed Stereophile into
$tereopile. IOW,
the magazine is now just the kind of advertiser driven
magazine that
led Holt to found the original Stereophile as an
alternative in the
first place.

Agreed. It appears that eventually the JA-induced stink got
too much for JGH, so he ended up abandoning his offspring
because it had become too unruly and painful.

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

wrote:
MINe 109 wrote:


snipped

Somehow JGH got the idea to do a subjective review
magazine.

Could you be more vague Stephen? Why not just admit that
you
didn't know what you were talking about?

He gradually realized that measurements-only reviews
didn't tell him
enough about what components sounded like.

More specifically, JGH realized that in the late 1950s. It
seems that the radical subjectivists would like us to
believe that nothing changed related to measurements in the
past 50 years.

However, my quote shows that the most important motivator
for JGH in those days was not the then-retarded state of
measurements, but the way that advertisers changed editorial
policy in their favor.

And kept him from expressing his own opinions in his writing for the
magazine.

That led him to leave his magazine job for the newsletter job. The
Stereophile thing followed.

Stephen

MINe 109 wrote:
In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

wrote:
MINe 109 wrote:


snipped

Somehow JGH got the idea to do a subjective review
magazine.

Could you be more vague Stephen? Why not just admit
that
you
didn't know what you were talking about?

He gradually realized that measurements-only reviews
didn't tell him
enough about what components sounded like.

More specifically, JGH realized that in the late 1950s.
It
seems that the radical subjectivists would like us to
believe that nothing changed related to measurements in
the
past 50 years.

However, my quote shows that the most important motivator
for JGH in those days was not the then-retarded state of
measurements, but the way that advertisers changed
editorial
policy in their favor.

And kept him from expressing his own opinions in his
writing for the
magazine.

That would be the superset problem. The problem with the
advertisers was just one detail related to that.

That led him to leave his magazine job for the newsletter
job.

You've been doing some reserach, grasshopper.

The Stereophile thing followed.

Yeah, and I was a charter subscriber. I must have signed up
in 1962 or 1963. I seem to recall still getting new issues
related to that "1 year" subscription when I was in
Germany - 1969 or so.

Holt's concept of audio's high end is the one that I apply
to this day - higher quality products that probably cost
quite a bit more, but provide exceptional real-world audible
performance.

So much for the current Sterephile's spew of promotions for
snake oil and other overpriced products that seem to have no
audible advantages.

MINe 109 wrote:
In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

snipped

However, my quote shows that the most important motivator
for JGH in those days was not the then-retarded state of
measurements, but the way that advertisers changed editorial
policy in their favor.

And kept him from expressing his own opinions in his writing for the
magazine.

That led him to leave his magazine job for the newsletter job. The
Stereophile thing followed.



Are you posting this in rebuttal? I fail to see where it succeeds as
such. Clearly, JGH objected to the influence of advertisers on the
content of reviews.

Project for today: tally up the number of negative reviews in the
Atkinson era. Then go see how many non-advertisers products make the
RCL.

Have fun!

On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:45:00 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Unfortunately, JA's road has changed Stereophile into
$tereopile. IOW,
the magazine is now just the kind of advertiser driven
magazine that
led Holt to found the original Stereophile as an
alternative in the
first place.

Agreed. It appears that eventually the JA-induced stink got
too much for JGH, so he ended up abandoning his offspring
because it had become too unruly and painful.

Mindreading again, I see.

It's more likely, using criteria that you've used when discussing
Rupert Neve's comments about analog vs. digital, that he just became
too aged to tell the difference between components. That would be far
more likely, right?

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message

Joseph Oberlander wrote:

He's a complete ass here in this group.

As if you've done anything here to be proud of, Joe.

He cut off Lord Vader's legs on the planet of Mostafa.


I think it's his form of entertainment to poke at the
cages and see the nuts react
or something.

Doooh!

wrote in message

A quote from JGH on his experience at High Fidelity, which led him to
start Stereophile:

"I watched, first with incredulity and then with growing disgust, how
the purchase of a year's advertising contract could virtually insure a
manufacturer against publication of an unfavorable report."

Perhaps this is why JGH left Stereophile: what he had founded had
become that which disgusted him. :-(

Sort of like what happened to Anakin when he was seduced by the Dark Side?

Arny Krueger wrote:
Joseph Oberlander wrote:


He's a complete ass here in this group.


As if you've done anything here to be proud of, Joe.

The difference is that I never said I *had* done
anything special.

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:
In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

wrote:
MINe 109 wrote:


snipped

Somehow JGH got the idea to do a subjective review
magazine.

Could you be more vague Stephen? Why not just admit
that
you
didn't know what you were talking about?

He gradually realized that measurements-only reviews
didn't tell him
enough about what components sounded like.

More specifically, JGH realized that in the late 1950s.
It
seems that the radical subjectivists would like us to
believe that nothing changed related to measurements in
the
past 50 years.

However, my quote shows that the most important motivator
for JGH in those days was not the then-retarded state of
measurements, but the way that advertisers changed
editorial
policy in their favor.

And kept him from expressing his own opinions in his
writing for the
magazine.

That would be the superset problem. The problem with the
advertisers was just one detail related to that.

It's odd how you add 'corrections' that undercut your earlier positions.

That led him to leave his magazine job for the newsletter
job.

You've been doing some reserach, grasshopper.

http://stereophile.com/interviews/66/

1997 wasn't so long ago.

The Stereophile thing followed.

Yeah, and I was a charter subscriber. I must have signed up
in 1962 or 1963. I seem to recall still getting new issues
related to that "1 year" subscription when I was in
Germany - 1969 or so.

Leading to the creation of TAS, according to some, because people were
tired of waiting for their next issue.

Holt's concept of audio's high end is the one that I apply
to this day - higher quality products that probably cost
quite a bit more, but provide exceptional real-world audible
performance.

So much for the current Sterephile's spew of promotions for
snake oil and other overpriced products that seem to have no
audible advantages.

'Spew' implies most products in Stereophile meet that description. Since
I don't get to hear overkill products, it's fun to read about them.
Personally, the only ultra high end stuff I've heard (Quads aside) is
the Linn CD12 and Linn switching amps, unless you count the Bad Brains
cd that has a couple of tracks mastered from Fremer's vinyl rig.

'Over-priced' is a valid opinion, but not a universal one.

Stephen

dave weil wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:45:00 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:
It appears that eventually the JA-induced stink
got too much for JGH, so he ended up abandoning
his offspring because it had become too unruly
and painful.

Mindreading again, I see.

:-) I continue to be amazed by some people's need to
express opinions on subjects about which they have no
direct knowledge.

It's more likely, using criteria that you've used
when discussing Rupert Neve's comments about analog
vs. digital, that he just became too aged to tell
the difference between components. That would be far
more likely, right?

Gordon resigned as a Stereophile employee in 1999 for
a number of reasons, some to do with his compensation
package, others to do with his strong feeling that
the magazine should abandon coverage of 2-channel
audio components and recordings in favor of multi-
channel playback. Gordon was offered a position
at The Absolute Sound to write about that subject,
but that didn't pan out the way he expected. He left
that magazine at the end of 2003.

Gordon is basically retired these days. He has also
been having some health problems but currently
appears to be okay. We stay in touch. He still feels
that I made a strategic error in not changing
Stereophile along the lines he wanted in 1999.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Joseph O'Blather said:

The difference is that I never said I *had* done
anything special.

You've apologized repeatedly for the Krooborg. That's special.

Schizoid Man wrote:
wrote in message

A quote from JGH on his experience at High Fidelity, which led him to
start Stereophile:

"I watched, first with incredulity and then with growing disgust, how
the purchase of a year's advertising contract could virtually insure a
manufacturer against publication of an unfavorable report."

Perhaps this is why JGH left Stereophile: what he had founded had
become that which disgusted him. :-(

Sort of like what happened to Anakin when he was seduced by the Dark Side?


But it seems that JGH was repulsed by the Dark side, not seduced by it.
And, AFAIK, he never developed that weird breathing problem. :-)

MINe 109 said to Arnii Krooborg:

You've got 'argumentative' down pat.

Argumentativeness is one of the core skills in the "debating trade". Second
in importance only to mendaciousness.

George Middius wrote:

Joseph O'Blather said:


The difference is that I never said I *had* done
anything special.


You've apologized repeatedly for the Krooborg. That's special.

Anything done online on UseNet is as meaningless
as the waste of space it occupies. Again, I've done
nothing special at all. Kreuger pontificates about
some **** the did decades ago as if it was sometihng
worthy of induction into some hall of fame.

Then again, so does John. Different sides of the same coin,
I guess.

Joseph O'Blather said:

You've apologized repeatedly for the Krooborg. That's special.

Anything done online on UseNet is as meaningless
as the waste of space it occupies. Again, I've done
nothing special at all.

Some of us disagree. I'm sure you're used to that.

Kreuger pontificates about
some **** the did decades ago as if it was sometihng
worthy of induction into some hall of fame.

Good start on kicking the Kroopologism infection. A few other RAOers before
you have shaken it off fully. Maybe you can conquer it too.

Then again, so does John. Different sides of the same coin,
I guess.

Your viewpoint is somewhat left of weird.

Joseph Oberlander wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote:
Joseph Oberlander wrote:


He's a complete ass here in this group.


As if you've done anything here to be proud of, Joe.

The difference is that I never said I *had* done
anything special.

What qualifies you to judge, or was that just your
unsupported opinion?

The Big **** said:

He's a complete ass here in this group.

[...]

What qualifies you to judge, or was that just your
unsupported opinion?


Certain opinions don't need specific supporting evidence because the foundation
is blatantly obvious. Your ****fulness is one such thing. It's so obvious that
even somebody with a profound case of Kroopologism recognizes it.

Of course, your utter lack of self-awareness prevents you from recognizing what
is blazingly apparent to virtually everybody else. However, I think that even
you, Arnii "****-for-Brains" Krooborg, aka Arnii the Kroomonkey, Flinger of
Feces, realize deep down that you're a dirty piece of work. Look at your
favorite way of deflecting criticism: You always try to smear your accuser with
the same aspersion. IOW, your only excuse is that you're not the only one who
behaves badly. And you offer the same weak, whiney, self-pitying crapola to
everybody who criticizes you. This constitutes a pattern of behavior.

At this juncture, you'll dredge up something about me to complain about. Yes, I
call you names, and compare you to turds, and malign your family, and mock your
pomposity. I do all those things, and it doesn't bother me (much). But I don't
**** on anybody and everybody, including those who take my side against the
likes of you. Too bad you can't say the same. You are indecency personified.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

Agreed. It appears that eventually the JA-induced stink got
too much for JGH, so he ended up abandoning his offspring
because it had become too unruly and painful.


So JGH went to The Absolute Sound instead.

The only thing that stinks is your logic. But I suspect it is a reflection
of your educational level and thus cannot really be held against you.

Cheers,

Margaret

Margaret von B. said to The Big ****:

The only thing that stinks is your logic. But I suspect it is a reflection
of your educational level and thus cannot really be held against you.

I attribute the illogic you observe on the part of Mr. **** to his mental
disease. Equally not his fault, except insofar as he's too selfish to get
treatment.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
Joseph Oberlander wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote:
Joseph Oberlander wrote:


He's a complete ass here in this group.


As if you've done anything here to be proud of, Joe.

The difference is that I never said I *had* done
anything special.

What qualifies you to judge, or was that just your
unsupported opinion?



Interesting logic. Ever thought what qualifies you to breathe, Arny?

Cheers,

Margaret

PS. I notice one of your "moods" building up again. I hope everyone will be
safe.

"tubeguy" wrote in message
. ..
I have met him and he is a good guy. I like him. What your collective bent
about this guy is I do not understand. Arnie is a good guy and does not
deserve the bashing any group has given him.

take a look over on news:alt.audio.pro.live-sound where Arny is regarded as
nothing more than a blowhard and where he's completely humiliated himself
over the last couple of days.

Suffice to say his name is mud over there and with good reason. His infamous
"FOH" post has to be seen to be believed.

Phildo

"Phildo" wrote in message

"tubeguy" wrote in message
. ..
I have met him and he is a good guy. I like him. What
your
collective bent about this guy is I do not understand.
Arnie
is a good guy and does not deserve the bashing any group
has
given him.

take a look over on news:alt.audio.pro.live-sound where
Arny
is regarded as nothing more than a blowhard and where he's
completely humiliated himself over the last couple of
days.

If Phildo's ego wasn't such a bleeding mess, he'd have no
need to do this.

Now, Phildo has brought the whole RAO contingent of mental
midgets into AAPLS to work it over.

Phildo, I regret hurting you so badly in our little debate.