I want to create an archive of high bitrate, uncompressed, four channel
recordings, with full access to the digital bitstream. If the Wikipedia
article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio , is correct, DVD-A is
unsuitable, because, even with the most permissive flags, digital output is
downconverted to 48K.

Does there exist any other quasi-standard that would permit the largest
number of other interested persons to easily play the material, with digital
access to the full bitrate? Are there any players that can handle multitrack
wav files? Copy protection is not an issue, as the audience would be very
restricted.

soundhaspriority wrote:
I want to create an archive of high bitrate, uncompressed, four channel
recordings, with full access to the digital bitstream. If the Wikipedia
article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio , is correct, DVD-A is
unsuitable, because, even with the most permissive flags, digital output is
downconverted to 48K.

Does there exist any other quasi-standard that would permit the largest
number of other interested persons to easily play the material, with digital
access to the full bitrate? Are there any players that can handle multitrack
wav files? Copy protection is not an issue, as the audience would be very
restricted.

There will probably be some way to do it on HD-DVD and Blu-Ray in the
relatively near future.

--Vas

"soundhaspriority" wrote in message
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Does there exist any other quasi-standard that would permit the largest
number of other interested persons to easily play the material, with
digital access to the full bitrate? Are there any players that can handle
multitrack wav files? Copy protection is not an issue, as the audience
would be very restricted.

I believe Matroska should be able to house such a beast. Not quite sure how
you'd get it in there though as mkvmerge probably wouldn't like it easily.
Joe

On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 00:41:29 -0400, "soundhaspriority"
wrote:

I want to create an archive of high bitrate, uncompressed, four channel
recordings, with full access to the digital bitstream. If the Wikipedia
article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio , is correct, DVD-A is
unsuitable, because, even with the most permissive flags, digital output is
downconverted to 48K.

That's due to bandwidth limitations on S/PDIF. With HDMI 1.1+ output,
you can get more.

Kal

"Kalman Rubinson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 00:41:29 -0400, "soundhaspriority"
wrote:

I want to create an archive of high bitrate, uncompressed, four channel
recordings, with full access to the digital bitstream. If the Wikipedia
article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio , is correct, DVD-A is
unsuitable, because, even with the most permissive flags, digital output
is
downconverted to 48K.

That's due to bandwidth limitations on S/PDIF. With HDMI 1.1+ output,
you can get more.

Kal

I beg to differ. I have a lowly Panasonic DVD player that will output 96K to
a lowly Panasonic surround decoder. I have an Apogee MiniMe A/D that will
also output 96/24. Unfortunately, the documentation for the player gives no
hint as to what format the data has to be in.

The Wikipedia may or may not be correct in stating that the limitation is
statutory. Can you cite a DVD-A player with HDMI that can actually send four
channels of DVD-A at 96/24 ? Please except high bitrate DTS, since that
is a compressed format.

On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 12:08:27 -0400, "soundhaspriority"
wrote:

I beg to differ. I have a lowly Panasonic DVD player that will output 96K to
a lowly Panasonic surround decoder.

That's true for the Panasonic and some Pioneer machines. Does it
depend on the disc flags?

The Wikipedia may or may not be correct in stating that the limitation is
statutory.

Agreed.

Can you cite a DVD-A player with HDMI that can actually send four
channels of DVD-A at 96/24 ? Please except high bitrate DTS, since that
is a compressed format.

Nope. Just reading the specs. OTOH, I had no problem using the
Denon-Link or iLink for hi-res MCH.

Kal

"Kalman Rubinson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 12:08:27 -0400, "soundhaspriority"
wrote:

I beg to differ. I have a lowly Panasonic DVD player that will output 96K
to
a lowly Panasonic surround decoder.

That's true for the Panasonic and some Pioneer machines. Does it
depend on the disc flags?

The user manual for this multiformat machine is so skimpy that I do not know
what format it refers to.
Two channels at 96/24. Do you know the format?


The Wikipedia may or may not be correct in stating that the limitation is
statutory.

Agreed.

Can you cite a DVD-A player with HDMI that can actually send four
channels of DVD-A at 96/24 ? Please except high bitrate DTS, since that
is a compressed format.

Nope. Just reading the specs. OTOH, I had no problem using the
Denon-Link or iLink for hi-res MCH.

Hi-res MCH in what format?

On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 14:01:49 -0400, "soundhaspriority"
wrote:


"Kalman Rubinson" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 12:08:27 -0400, "soundhaspriority"
wrote:

I beg to differ. I have a lowly Panasonic DVD player that will output 96K
to
a lowly Panasonic surround decoder.

That's true for the Panasonic and some Pioneer machines. Does it
depend on the disc flags?

The user manual for this multiformat machine is so skimpy that I do not know
what format it refers to.
Two channels at 96/24. Do you know the format?
Actually, I've gotten more. 5.1 channels of 96/24 on occasion from
DVD-A.

Nope. Just reading the specs. OTOH, I had no problem using the
Denon-Link or iLink for hi-res MCH.

Hi-res MCH in what format?
SACD or DVD-A.

Kal

On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 00:41:29 -0400, in rec.audio.pro "soundhaspriority"
wrote:

I want to create an archive of high bitrate, uncompressed, four channel
recordings, with full access to the digital bitstream. If the Wikipedia
article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio , is correct, DVD-A is
unsuitable, because, even with the most permissive flags, digital output is
downconverted to 48K.

Does there exist any other quasi-standard that would permit the largest
number of other interested persons to easily play the material, with digital
access to the full bitrate? Are there any players that can handle multitrack
wav files? Copy protection is not an issue, as the audience would be very
restricted.

checkout the BWF file format EBU tech doc 3306 and possibly AES50


martin

"soundhaspriority" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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I want to create an archive of high bitrate, uncompressed, four channel
recordings, with full access to the digital bitstream. If the Wikipedia
article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio , is correct, DVD-A is
unsuitable, because, even with the most permissive flags, digital output is
downconverted to 48K.

Does there exist any other quasi-standard that would permit the largest
number of other interested persons to easily play the material, with
digital access to the full bitrate? Are there any players that can handle
multitrack wav files? Copy protection is not an issue, as the audience
would be very restricted.


look for "RF64"! Probably most of the leading manufacturers of pro audio
software will adapt. Sequoia (MAGIX) already is capable using/producing
RF64.