Arnii, the group wants to know what you do with all those recordings
you make of church music. Do you dupe a bunch of CDs and them give
them away so you can pretend it's a deductible donation? Do you
blackmail Reverend Wickee somehow so he'll coerce the flock to buy
the CDs off you? Or maybe the two of you are just running a scam
together, where the Rev. tells people that playing back last
Sunday's music will make their prayers more potent, and you kick him
back some of the swag.

What's the deal?

"George M. Middius" wrote in message


Arnii, the group wants to know what you do with all those recordings
you make of church music. Do you dupe a bunch of CDs and them give
them away so you can pretend it's a deductible donation?

Nahh, I just given them away and forget about what they cost me.

Besides, George you must be from some other universe where duping CDs costs
a serious amount of money. Not in this one!

Do you blackmail Reverend Wickee somehow so he'll coerce the flock to buy
the CDs off you?

What's unclear about "give them away"? George, between the pedophilia, teh
attention deficit disorder and the senile dementia you're even forgetting
what you wrote in the previous paragraph.

Or maybe the two of you are just running a scam
together, where the Rev. tells people that playing back last
Sunday's music will make their prayers more potent, and you kick him
back some of the swag.

More confirmation of George's senile dementia.

What's the deal?

As you said George, I give them away free.

The funny thing is. It was just a courtesy letter. I offered him an easy way to
avoid a lawsuit. An option Arny still has. Why Arny chose to make a federal
case out of my leaving the return address off of the envelope is bizarre.
Especially given the fact that I did so because I assumed the paperwork
involved in sending a registered letter would include my return address, which
it did. He won't have the option to turn down thing he gets in the mail
regarding this matter should he let it get that far. Oh,and it will have my
mailing address on it.

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


The funny thing is. It was just a courtesy letter. I offered him an
easy way to avoid a lawsuit. An option Arny still has. Why Arny chose
to make a federal case out of my leaving the return address off of
the envelope is bizarre.

Well problem number one is that it isn't a federal case. Any lawsuit you try
to file against me in California is fake. When you file, you're going to
have to admit to the court that I don't live in California and have no
business presence in California. The court is going to reject your filing. I
hope they take your money first.

I think your current conundrum is totally rich, sockpuppet Wheel. Your
letter is totally anonymous and untraceable just like your Usenet persona
is. The name it mentions is untraceable. It's exactly what you sent me,
nothing more and nothing less.

You planned it that way sockpuppet Wheel because you are a total fake. I
suspect you finally talked to someone who knows something about the law and
he told you since you are a total fake, that also makes your letter moot.

I said


The funny thing is. It was just a courtesy letter. I offered him an
easy way to avoid a lawsuit. An option Arny still has. Why Arny chose
to make a federal case out of my leaving the return address off of
the envelope is bizarre.



Arny said


Well problem number one is that it isn't a federal case.


I was speaking figuretively about your reaction to the letter I sent you.
Obviously if I sue you it won't be a Federal case. It will be in California
Superior Court.

Arny said

Any lawsuit you try
to file against me in California is fake.


No. If you let it come to that it will be very real. It will also be the right
court. If you had done the research on jurisdiction and understood it you would
already know this.

Arny said


When you file, you're going to
have to admit to the court that I don't live in California and have no
business presence in California.


Yes I will have to state your place of residence.


Arny said


The court is going to reject your filing. I
hope they take your money first.



Wrong.


Arny said



I think your current conundrum is totally rich, sockpuppet Wheel.


Unfortunately for you, your opinions are irrelevant to the courts.


Arny said


Your
letter is totally anonymous and untraceable just like your Usenet persona
is.


My letter is signed. It would be interesting to see you try to convince a judge
in court that it was anonymous With me sitting there. It would be even more
interesting to see you try to pursuade a judge that it was relevant. It will be
even more interesting still to see you try to convince a judge to ignore all
established civil codes regarding personal identity and indentifiablity in
regards to libel. I have cited everything you need to read on the subject.
Ignorance will not work as an excuse. You have been told over and over again.


Arny said


The name it mentions is untraceable. It's exactly what you sent me,
nothing more and nothing less.


I think it would be interesting to see you try to pursuade a judge I don't
exist so long as you say I don't exist while I am sitting in the room. My
existance and legal standing does not rely on what you know or think or
imagine.


Arny said




You planned it that way sockpuppet Wheel because you are a total fake.


I planned what? You chose to accuse me of being a pedophile. i didn't plan
anything. You created this mess now you have to fix it or let the courts fix
it.


Arny said

I
suspect you finally talked to someone who knows something about the law and
he told you since you are a total fake, that also makes your letter moot.


You will do yourself a great service by talking to a lawyer IMO. You are basing
your choices on eroneous opinions about me and about the law. By the way the
letter was only a courtesy letter to give you an easy way to resolve a problem
you created.

I said


You will do yourself a great service by talking to a lawyer IMO. You
are basing your choices on eroneous opinions about me and about the
law. By the way the letter was only a courtesy letter to give you an
easy way to resolve a problem you created.



Arny said


First prove to me that you exist as a real person, sockpuppet Wheel.



It looks like you are bent on being unreasonable about this. Your choice.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
Any lawsuit you try to file against me in California is fake. When you
file, you're going to have to admit to the court that I don't live in
California and have no business presence in California. The court is
going to reject your filing.

You keep writing this or something like it, Mr. Krueger, but with
respect you are wrong. In a defamation suit, the court that has
jurisdiction is the one in the state where the purported damage was
suffered. In this case, as Scott Wheeler resides in California, any
suit he files for damage to his reputation will be correctly and
appropriately filed in California. The fact that you reside in Michigan
is irrelevant when the supposed defamation has occured on a nationally
distributed medium.

This why an increasing number of defamation cases are being filed in
1st-Amendment-free England, even the defamation has occurred in an
American magazine against an American citizen or corporation (provided
the defamee can show some kind of legal residence or presence in the UK).

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

"John Atkinson" wrote in message
m
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
Any lawsuit you try to file against me in California is fake. When
you file, you're going to have to admit to the court that I don't
live in California and have no business presence in California. The
court is going to reject your filing.

You keep writing this or something like it, Mr. Krueger, but with
respect you are wrong.

You obviously have no respect for me Atkinson, so that pretty well voids
everything you say that follows.

In a defamation suit, the court that has
jurisdiction is the one in the state where the purported damage was
suffered. In this case, as Scott Wheeler resides in California, any
suit he files for damage to his reputation will be correctly and
appropriately filed in California.

I don't know who this purported Scott Wheeler person is, and I see no
evidence that he lives in any state, let alone California.

Show me a sucessful case of this kind where an anonymous person was
slandered.

The fact that you reside in
Michigan is irrelevant when the supposed defamation has occurred on a
nationally distributed medium.

The fact that no real person was slandered figures heavily in this case. If
what you claim were true Atkinson, there would be a lot of filings of this
kind in Nome, Alaska.

This why an increasing number of defamation cases are being filed in
1st-Amendment-free England, even the defamation has occurred in an
American magazine against an American citizen or corporation (provided
the defamee can show some kind of legal residence or presence in the
UK).

There's always been a lot of ego involved in cases like this.

Arny Krueger wrote in message :

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


The funny thing is. It was just a courtesy letter. I offered him an
easy way to avoid a lawsuit. An option Arny still has. Why Arny chose
to make a federal case out of my leaving the return address off of
the envelope is bizarre.

Well problem number one is that it isn't a federal case. Any lawsuit you try
to file against me in California is fake. When you file, you're going to
have to admit to the court that I don't live in California and have no
business presence in California. The court is going to reject your filing. I
hope they take your money first.


You are so right. This clown is just tryin to intimidate you Arny. You
don't have to apologize. Look what mean stuff everybody says to you on
R.A.O. Its like they think they can provoque you over and over and your
never allowed to say anything back because they will sue you. LOL!



I think your current conundrum is totally rich, sockpuppet Wheel. Your
letter is totally anonymous and untraceable just like your Usenet persona
is. The name it mentions is untraceable. It's exactly what you sent me,
nothing more and nothing less.


Right again Arnye. Nobody needs a lawyer to tell them that. This guy is
probably an inmate in a mentle hospittle. He probably got his mother to
send you that letter. You should sue him! LOL!



You planned it that way sockpuppet Wheel because you are a total fake. I
suspect you finally talked to someone who knows something about the law and
he told you since you are a total fake, that also makes your letter moot.



His letter is moot? Is that why you keep arguing about it? That's a good
strategy Arny. LOL!


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