Ian Iveson wrote:
Sod off.

You do nothing but bloody whinge these days. How can that be zen,
you daft bugger?
[...]

Whinge? Neat word. I presume its meaning is about midway between "bitch"
and "whine."


Zen's a pile of **** :-). Don't switch off.

Well, of course it's that too! You've of course heard the Zen question,
"What is the sound of **** happening?"

Cheers,
Fred