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ospam (WillStG) wrote in message ...
: S O'Neill

Great, you agree with my first sentence, the one you left out or the
quote. Now read the part you left in. What about that?

Engels was pretty accurate I think in his criticisms of 19th Century
Capitalism. But criticism however accurate does not mean that one has a better
idea or any sort of solution for a problem. Unless one is a big fan of
genocide, totalitarianism and mass murder of course -


when done in the name of Democracy.. ie: School of the Americas (
which is still open! ) It's OK though

Poppa Doc was a kind leader... and South Korea wasn't ready for
elections til 1987 ( since there so called liberation in 1952)
And the Democratically elected govvernment in Venezuala of Hugo
Chavez, isn't really that democratic.. compared to the american
supported narco-thugs, who suspended the constitution, electoral
system, and civil rights. It's a good thing for them that upon their
capture they were guarenteed the rights provided to them by the
constitution that they tried to suspend.


and history attests this
is true. FWIW the Christian Socialist contemporaries of Marx and Engels also
had accurate criticisms of Capitalism's problems, had they been listened to or
more effective as voices for reform Marxist revolution and all the misery that
followed might never have happened.


like the more than 200% increase in teburculosis that has occured in
the former Soviet Union. Or the elimination of the pension system that
they had all worked for.


Anyway the Capitalism of the 21st Century and that of the 19th Century are
different in many regards. Some of the most basic differences is that most
large Corporations are publically owned (by stocks)



and most of those stocks rest with the richest 10% maybe 5%.
except for those Ponzi scheme .com stocks, and Ponzi schemes like
ENRON, etc.


and there are anti-monopoly
laws and rules about anti-competitive practices, the "dumping" of products into
markets, etc.



You mean like the breakup of Altec-Lansing?

OH wait doesn't Harmon Intl own both Altec and JBL now.. Don't they
also own Studer, UREI, Soundcraft, Allen & Heath... and most of the
other companies we have to deal with?