So Arny....

[Jenn]

You have yet to respond to the following regarding the "Trumpets"
"French Horn" and "Violin" files. You know, the ones that are central
to your website that you can't name where you obtained them.

What's your take?

"There are several performance aspects that give
these away as either being synthed or heavily manipulated. I'll give a
few examples: 1. In the "trumpet" files, the files includes notes not
playable by trumpets, and the violin files contains notes not playable
by violins. 2. The intonation is DEAD ON, as measured by a digital
tuner. It's more in tune than is humanly possible. 3. There is no
string bowing sound. Especially in a dead room with the mics at any
realistic distance from the players, you would hear bowing sounds. 4.
The string decay is highly unnatural. In any room, dry or wet, the
upper string sounds shouldn't be the last to die as they are in the
file."

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in message
...

> You have yet to respond to the following regarding the "Trumpets"
> "French Horn" and "Violin" files.

And I won't say any more on the subject until you admit that you were wrong
about the triangle file and the cutlery file.

[George M. Middius]

Robert said:

> I've always felt that Arny is a bad scientist, but is he also a fraud, a
> mountebanke, a charlatan, a purveyor of intellectual "snake oil", in the
> form of the "ABX" sound-deadening protocol?

All of those terms flatter the Krooborg unjustifiably. He's a compulsive
liar and a sicko in general.

> And now it turns out that his sound samples may have been created by a
> Yamaha organ?
> The ethical downfall of Arny Krueger? The horror, the horror!

I doubt anybody needed evidence of Krooger lying about his silly sound
snippets to figure out what he is.




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Jenn]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > You have yet to respond to the following regarding the "Trumpets"
> > "French Horn" and "Violin" files.
>
> And I won't say any more on the subject until you admit that you were wrong
> about the triangle file and the cutlery file.

Except that I didn't say anything wrong, based on the information
available to me at the time I made the comment. Look at the record.

LOL OF COURSE you won't comment, because once again, your back is
against the wall. Your "acoustic files" are frauds.

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" > wrote in
message

> In article >,
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>
>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>> message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> You have yet to respond to the following regarding the
>>> "Trumpets" "French Horn" and "Violin" files.
>>
>> And I won't say any more on the subject until you admit
>> that you were wrong about the triangle file and the
>> cutlery file.

Update - Jenn's defense for her importune comments about the triangle file
and the cutlery file is that 9:29 is before 9:24.

Silly me, I didn't think she could move across time zones that fast! ;-)

[Mr Fox]

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:29:09 GMT, Jenn
> wrote:

>You have yet to respond to the following regarding the "Trumpets"
>"French Horn" and "Violin" files. You know, the ones that are central
>to your website that you can't name where you obtained them.
>
>What's your take?
>
>"There are several performance aspects that give
>these away as either being synthed or heavily manipulated. I'll give a
>few examples: 1. In the "trumpet" files, the files includes notes not
>playable by trumpets, and the violin files contains notes not playable
>by violins. 2. The intonation is DEAD ON, as measured by a digital
>tuner. It's more in tune than is humanly possible. 3. There is no
>string bowing sound. Especially in a dead room with the mics at any
>realistic distance from the players, you would hear bowing sounds. 4.
>The string decay is highly unnatural. In any room, dry or wet, the
>upper string sounds shouldn't be the last to die as they are in the
>file."

answer: gm sound module

[Mr Fox]

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:17:12 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote:

>"Jenn" > wrote in
>message

>> In article >,
>> "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
>>
>>> "Jenn" > wrote in
>>> message
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> You have yet to respond to the following regarding the
>>>> "Trumpets" "French Horn" and "Violin" files.
>>>
>>> And I won't say any more on the subject until you admit
>>> that you were wrong about the triangle file and the
>>> cutlery file.
>
>Update - Jenn's defense for her importune

"importune". this again?
brain to fingers defect?

[Jenn]

In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Jenn" > wrote in
> message
>
> > In article >,
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Jenn" > wrote in
> >> message
> >> .
> >> com
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> You have yet to respond to the following regarding the
> >>> "Trumpets" "French Horn" and "Violin" files.
> >>
> >> And I won't say any more on the subject until you admit
> >> that you were wrong about the triangle file and the
> >> cutlery file.
>
> Update - Jenn's defense for her importune

Incorrect use of the word noted...

> comments about the triangle file
> and the cutlery file is that 9:29 is before 9:24.

Where did I say that, Arny? Stop lying.

[George M. Middius]

Jenn said:

> > Update - Jenn's defense for her importune

> Incorrect use of the word noted...

I believe you're right. What Arnii meant to say is:

"Jenn's defense, despite my importuning her for mercy, has totally
demolished my 'debating trade" flummery."




--

"Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible."
A. Krooger, Aug. 2006

[Clyde Slick]

George M. Middius wrote:
> Robert said:
>
> > I've always felt that Arny is a bad scientist, but is he also a fraud, a
> > mountebanke, a charlatan, a purveyor of intellectual "snake oil", in the
> > form of the "ABX" sound-deadening protocol?
>
> All of those terms flatter the Krooborg unjustifiably. He's a compulsive
> liar and a sicko in general.
>
> > And now it turns out that his sound samples may have been created by a
> > Yamaha organ?
> > The ethical downfall of Arny Krueger? The horror, the horror!
>
> I doubt anybody needed evidence of Krooger lying about his silly sound
> snippets to figure out what he is.
>
>

If I ever find out the castanets aren't real, I'll probably have a
nervous breakdown.
Oh, how I love them!

[Jenn]

In article m>,
"Clyde Slick" > wrote:

> George M. Middius wrote:
> > Robert said:
> >
> > > I've always felt that Arny is a bad scientist, but is he also a fraud, a
> > > mountebanke, a charlatan, a purveyor of intellectual "snake oil", in the
> > > form of the "ABX" sound-deadening protocol?
> >
> > All of those terms flatter the Krooborg unjustifiably. He's a compulsive
> > liar and a sicko in general.
> >
> > > And now it turns out that his sound samples may have been created by a
> > > Yamaha organ?
> > > The ethical downfall of Arny Krueger? The horror, the horror!
> >
> > I doubt anybody needed evidence of Krooger lying about his silly sound
> > snippets to figure out what he is.
> >
> >
>
> If I ever find out the castanets aren't real, I'll probably have a
> nervous breakdown.
> Oh, how I love them!

They sound real enough, though I'm only listening to them through my
laptop speakers. The instrument is one of the easiest to fake due to
its sound's harmonic structure.

[[email protected]]

The "Trumpets" file has trumpets, trombones and maybe euphoniums. The
"Violin" file has viola, cello and bass. The "French Horn" file I'm not
sure about. Normally the bell faces away from the listener so the back
wall has a big effect. They're just too short for me to comment about
the intonation. Even the amateur wind ensemble I'm a member of has been
known to play 2 or 3 consecutive notes in tune. ;o) At any rate these
files don't really reveal the natural timbre of these instruments to my
ears.

TB

Jenn wrote:
> You have yet to respond to the following regarding the "Trumpets"
> "French Horn" and "Violin" files. You know, the ones that are central
> to your website that you can't name where you obtained them.
>
> What's your take?
>
> "There are several performance aspects that give
> these away as either being synthed or heavily manipulated. I'll give a
> few examples: 1. In the "trumpet" files, the files includes notes not
> playable by trumpets, and the violin files contains notes not playable
> by violins. 2. The intonation is DEAD ON, as measured by a digital
> tuner. It's more in tune than is humanly possible. 3. There is no
> string bowing sound. Especially in a dead room with the mics at any
> realistic distance from the players, you would hear bowing sounds. 4.
> The string decay is highly unnatural. In any room, dry or wet, the
> upper string sounds shouldn't be the last to die as they are in the
> file."

[Jenn]

In article om>,
wrote:

> The "Trumpets" file has trumpets, trombones and maybe euphoniums. The
> "Violin" file has viola, cello and bass. The "French Horn" file I'm not
> sure about. Normally the bell faces away from the listener so the back
> wall has a big effect. They're just too short for me to comment about
> the intonation. Even the amateur wind ensemble I'm a member of has been
> known to play 2 or 3 consecutive notes in tune. ;o) At any rate these
> files don't really reveal the natural timbre of these instruments to my
> ears.
>
> TB

All synth.

Where do you play?

[[email protected]]

Jenn wrote:
> In article om>,
> wrote:
>
> > The "Trumpets" file has trumpets, trombones and maybe euphoniums. The
[snip]
> >
> > TB
>
> All synth.
>
> Where do you play?

Here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UMDCommunityBand

And jazz jam sessions and misc. events.

TB

[Jenn]

In article om>,
wrote:

> Jenn wrote:
> > In article om>,
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The "Trumpets" file has trumpets, trombones and maybe euphoniums. The
> [snip]
> > >
> > > TB
> >
> > All synth.
> >
> > Where do you play?
>
> Here:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UMDCommunityBand
>
> And jazz jam sessions and misc. events.
>
> TB

Fantastic. I hope you keep playing!