Ich Bin Ein Test

[Hanz Vunderlicht]

[Robert Morein]

"Hanz Vunderlicht" > wrote in message
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a Berliner?

[dave weil]

On Wed, 05 May 2004 21:35:55 +0200, Lionel >
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>Robert Morein - > - mercredi 5 Mai 2004
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>> "Hanz Vunderlicht" > wrote in message
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>> a Berliner?
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>Bob the correct sentence is :
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>"ich bin ein Berliner" ;-)

Correct in terms of quoting Kennedy, but incorrect in fact.

[Hanz Vunderlicht]

On Wed, 05 May 2004 14:44:22 -0500, dave weil >
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>On Wed, 05 May 2004 21:35:55 +0200, Lionel >
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>>Robert Morein - > - mercredi 5 Mai 2004
>>21:25 wrote:
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>>> "Hanz Vunderlicht" > wrote in message
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>>> a Berliner?
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>>Bob the correct sentence is :
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>>"ich bin ein Berliner" ;-)
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>Correct in terms of quoting Kennedy, but incorrect in fact.

By my criterion "Ich bin ein Berliner" is formed correctly. We may say
"Ich bin Berliner" if Kennedy were a citizen of Berlin, but add "ein"
for figurative use.

[dave weil]

On Wed, 05 May 2004 21:53:38 +0200, Lionel >
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>dave weil - > - mercredi 5 Mai
>2004 21:44 wrote:
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>> On Wed, 05 May 2004 21:35:55 +0200, Lionel >
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>>>Robert Morein - > - mercredi 5 Mai
>>>2004 21:25 wrote:
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>>>> "Hanz Vunderlicht" > wrote in message
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>>>> a Berliner?
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>>>Bob the correct sentence is :
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>>>"ich bin ein Berliner" ;-)
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>> Correct in terms of quoting Kennedy, but incorrect in fact.
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>It seems that you are right.
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>BTW I have a question for you Dave.
>Bob Dylan is coming in my town by the begining of June. I cannot say that I
>am a fan but my wife used to listen him long time ago...
>I haven't heard anything for him since many years. So my question is :
>Would you spend approx. $100 for 2 places at a Dylan concert ?

I think I paid $35 to see him about 2 years ago. I thought it was
great. But it was in a large club. And I don't have a problem with him
tampering with the arrangements of his songs. I also don't mind not
being able to make out the words <chuckle>.

If you're not much of a fan of his, and your wife is a lapsed fan, I'm
not sure if you'll like it. However, he's one of those people that I
would suggest that *any* rock fan should experience at least once. And
it's amazing that the guy is still contantly touring. I think he does
around 200 dates a year.

I don't think I've ever paid more than $55 for any show, so $50 is
close to the limit of what I'll pay to see a show.

[dave weil]

On Wed, 05 May 2004 20:58:59 +0100, Hanz Vunderlicht
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>On Wed, 05 May 2004 14:44:22 -0500, dave weil >
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>>On Wed, 05 May 2004 21:35:55 +0200, Lionel >
>>wrote:
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>>>Robert Morein - > - mercredi 5 Mai 2004
>>>21:25 wrote:
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>>>> "Hanz Vunderlicht" > wrote in message
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>>>> a Berliner?
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>>>Bob the correct sentence is :
>>>
>>>"ich bin ein Berliner" ;-)
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>>Correct in terms of quoting Kennedy, but incorrect in fact.
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>By my criterion "Ich bin ein Berliner" is formed correctly.

If you're saying that you're a pastry - sure.

>We may say
>"Ich bin Berliner" if Kennedy were a citizen of Berlin, but add "ein"
>for figurative use.

When I learned German, I was told that this phrase was actually
incorrect the way he meant it. Germans that I knew confirmed this as
well. Maybe his misusage of this has become part of the language - I
dunno. Or maybe I was misinformed.

[Hanz Vunderlicht]

On Wed, 05 May 2004 15:16:06 -0500, dave weil >
wrote:

>>>>Robert Morein - > - mercredi 5 Mai 2004
>>>>21:25 wrote:
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>>>>> "Hanz Vunderlicht" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>> a Berliner?
>>>>
>>>>Bob the correct sentence is :
>>>>
>>>>"ich bin ein Berliner" ;-)
>>>
>>>Correct in terms of quoting Kennedy, but incorrect in fact.
>>
>>By my criterion "Ich bin ein Berliner" is formed correctly.
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>If you're saying that you're a pastry - sure.
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>>We may say
>>"Ich bin Berliner" if Kennedy were a citizen of Berlin, but add "ein"
>>for figurative use.
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>When I learned German, I was told that this phrase was actually
>incorrect the way he meant it. Germans that I knew confirmed this as
>well. Maybe his misusage of this has become part of the language - I
>dunno. Or maybe I was misinformed.

It is a general misunderstanding. All Germans do not agree, but the
majority would see in my explanation the natural direction.

[Robert Morein]

"Lionel" > wrote in message
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> Never listen to french singers ? <sad>
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When I hear Celine Dione, I understand all the words.
Perhaps Ich bin ein Frenchie and I don't even know it.

[Bruce J. Richman]

Robert Morein wrote:


>"Lionel" > wrote in message
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>> Never listen to french singers ? <sad>
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>When I hear Celine Dione, I understand all the words.
>Perhaps Ich bin ein Frenchie and I don't even know it.
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I'd rather listen to her than look at her :(.



Bruce J. Richman

[Bruce J. Richman]

Paul Dormer wrote:


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>>Have you seen her when she had an additional row of teeth? Shocking..
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>WTF.. my grammar is awful... ;)
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Don't sweat it :). Seeing her with one set of teeth was traumatic enough. :(



Bruce J. Richman