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Lionel
March 5th 04, 07:08 AM
This explains why Sockpuppet "Ol'chicken" Yustabe has left the left. ;-)

http://www.redcoat.net/pics/worldconspiracy.jpg

Thanks for the link Paul.
I guess Sandman will like it.

Sockpuppet Yustabe
March 5th 04, 01:49 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> This explains why Sockpuppet "Ol'chicken" Yustabe has left the left. ;-)
>
> http://www.redcoat.net/pics/worldconspiracy.jpg
>
> Thanks for the link Paul.
> I guess Sandman will like it.


The reasons I left the 'left' were its hatreds, hypocricy, and
its insisitence on adhering to the means rather than focusing
on the ends. Also, its intolerance of dissent and lack of diversity
of opinion. Heretics will be punished.




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Lionel
March 5th 04, 08:17 PM
Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
> "Lionel" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>This explains why Sockpuppet "Ol'chicken" Yustabe has left the left. ;-)
>>
>>http://www.redcoat.net/pics/worldconspiracy.jpg
>>
>>Thanks for the link Paul.
>>I guess Sandman will like it.
>
>
>
> The reasons I left the 'left' were its hatreds, hypocricy, and
> its insisitence on adhering to the means rather than focusing
> on the ends. Also, its intolerance of dissent and lack of diversity
> of opinion. Heretics will be punished.

I'm waiting foo you Ol' Chicken :
http://www.redcoat.net/pics/bigcactus.jpg

Lionel
March 6th 04, 08:22 PM
Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:

> I voted for Bush in the 2000 election. It was the first time in
> my life I ever voted for a Republican for President. I voted for
> McGovern, Carter, Mondale and Dukakis.

You've finally found your way Ol' Chicken...
....The way of the lie and the war. You excel in defending G.W. Bush,
Sandman is right you would have defend Mussolini with the same enthusiasm.

Marc Phillips
March 6th 04, 10:05 PM
Mr. Middius said:

>Socky said:
>
>> I voted for Bush in the 2000 election.
>
>And you're STILL not ashamed?
>

Even I didn't vote for him, and I'm a Republican.

Boon

Bruce J. Richman
March 6th 04, 10:11 PM
Mr. Phillips wrote:


>Mr. Middius said:
>
>>Socky said:
>>
>>> I voted for Bush in the 2000 election.
>>
>>And you're STILL not ashamed?
>>
>
>Even I didn't vote for him, and I'm a Republican.
>
>Boon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa ! (sorry, I couldn't resist). :)



Bruce J. Richman

ScottW
March 6th 04, 10:12 PM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
>
> > I voted for Bush in the 2000 election. It was the first time in
> > my life I ever voted for a Republican for President. I voted for
> > McGovern, Carter, Mondale and Dukakis.
>
> You've finally found your way Ol' Chicken...
> ...The way of the lie and the war. You excel in defending G.W. Bush,
> Sandman is right you would have defend Mussolini with the same
enthusiasm.

We find you defending Saddam with such enthusiasm.

ScottW

ScottW
March 6th 04, 10:34 PM
"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Mr. Middius said:
>
> >Socky said:
> >
> >> I voted for Bush in the 2000 election.
> >
> >And you're STILL not ashamed?
> >
>
> Even I didn't vote for him, and I'm a Republican.

I couldn't vote for Gore after the Chinese money
from the monks stupidity.

I really wish someone within the Republican ranks would
have stepped up to have a meaningful primary.
It might have allowed republicans unhappy with Bush a
chance to have their views and issues addressed.

BTW, I bet Hilary is really kicking herself for passing
up this election. If Kerry should win, she is done
as a presidential hopeful. A silver lining in
every cloud.

ScottW

Marc Phillips
March 6th 04, 10:49 PM
ScottW said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> Mr. Middius said:
>>
>> >Socky said:
>> >
>> >> I voted for Bush in the 2000 election.
>> >
>> >And you're STILL not ashamed?
>> >
>>
>> Even I didn't vote for him, and I'm a Republican.
>
> I couldn't vote for Gore after the Chinese money
>from the monks stupidity.
>
>I really wish someone within the Republican ranks would
>have stepped up to have a meaningful primary.
>It might have allowed republicans unhappy with Bush a
>chance to have their views and issues addressed.
>
>BTW, I bet Hilary is really kicking herself for passing
>up this election. If Kerry should win, she is done
>as a presidential hopeful. A silver lining in
>every cloud.

I didn't vote in 2000 because I was sent out of town on an emergency on
Election Day. At the time, however, I was very disappointed with the choice of
either Gore or Bush. I really have no idea who I would have voted for; it
probably would have been a last-minute impulse. I indulge myself sometimes by
thinking I would have written in John McCain, but I've never been one to throw
my vote away.

Now, in 2004, I'm almost at the same place. There's no way I will vote for
Bush, but I'm not that excited by John "Don't You Know Who I Am?" Kerry.

Boon

Sockpuppet Yustabe
March 7th 04, 01:50 AM
"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
> Mr. Middius said:
>
> >Socky said:
> >
> >> I voted for Bush in the 2000 election.
> >
> >And you're STILL not ashamed?
> >
>
> Even I didn't vote for him, and I'm a Republican.
>
> Boon

Did you just not vote, or vote for Gore? or Nader?




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Sockpuppet Yustabe
March 7th 04, 01:57 AM
"Lionel" > wrote in message
...
> Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:
>
> > I voted for Bush in the 2000 election. It was the first time in
> > my life I ever voted for a Republican for President. I voted for
> > McGovern, Carter, Mondale and Dukakis.
>
> You've finally found your way Ol' Chicken...
> ...The way of the lie and the war. You excel in defending G.W. Bush,
> Sandman is right you would have defend Mussolini with the same enthusiasm.

I wouldn't support any dictator.




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Marc Phillips
March 7th 04, 02:46 AM
Yustabe said:

>
>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
...
>> Mr. Middius said:
>>
>> >Socky said:
>> >
>> >> I voted for Bush in the 2000 election.
>> >
>> >And you're STILL not ashamed?
>> >
>>
>> Even I didn't vote for him, and I'm a Republican.
>>
>> Boon
>
>Did you just not vote, or vote for Gore? or Nader?

I explained this about five minutes later, but in another thread, so you may
not have seen it. I was sent out of town for work at the last minute on
Election Day. I was kind of ****ed because I tried to arrange some way to cast
my vote where I was at (in the Bay Area), but I missed the deadline.

But honestly, I was becoming apathetic about having to choose between Bush and
Gore. I liked Bradley and McCain much more than either one. I don't know who
I would have wound up voting for.

Boon

Joseph Oberlander
March 7th 04, 11:13 AM
ScottW wrote:

> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Mr. Middius said:
>>
>>
>>>Socky said:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I voted for Bush in the 2000 election.
>>>
>>>And you're STILL not ashamed?
>>>
>>
>>Even I didn't vote for him, and I'm a Republican.
>
>
> I couldn't vote for Gore after the Chinese money
> from the monks stupidity.
>
> I really wish someone within the Republican ranks would
> have stepped up to have a meaningful primary.
> It might have allowed republicans unhappy with Bush a
> chance to have their views and issues addressed.

This got to me too - ust because he is the incumbent
he automatically gets the nomination from his party?

No matter how many better people there out there to
do the job in his party? That's a sure sign that the
entire system needs to be overhauled, IMO.

Sockpuppet Yustabe
March 8th 04, 10:22 PM
"Sandman" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > >
> >
> > I voted for Bush in the 2000 election. It was the first time in
> > my life I ever voted for a Republican for President. I voted for
> > McGovern, Carter, Mondale and Dukakis.
>
> Let's just assume for argument's sake that I believe you, which I don't.
>
> If 2000 was the first time you voted Republican in your life, and Dukakis
> was the last Democrat you voted for, there's an 8 year gap (remember the
18
> 1/2 minute gap?) - you omitted the years 1992 and 1996. I'll bet you
didn't
> vote Democrat (for Clinton) in those years (you appear to admit as much by
> omission).
>

In 1992 I voted for Perot. In 1996 I voted for another guy with big ears.
I wrote in Micky Mouse.

> So, continuing to assume for argument's sake that you voted Democrat until
> 1992, there's only one possible explanation: you had a car accident
sometime
> prior to that election, hurt your back, gained weight, and suffered a
sever
> concussion - so severe that all of your political beliefs went straight
out
> the window, and your brain turned 180 degrees in your skull, and you began
> voting Republican. I mean, how else, assuming the truth of your
statement,
> can one explain that someone would vote against Reagan's "trickle-down
> economics" twice (and that dumbass greed theory was thoroughly discredited
> early in his administration since it led to layoffs, deficits, and
> recession), yet by 2000 you're voting for another Republican dumbass who
> promises to raise that discredited "trickle-down" **** from the dead - and
> does so even more brazenly, leading to even more severe job losses,
> deficits, and recession, and by 2004 you're crazy enough to plan on voting
> for five more years of that same ****?
>
> Try to make some sense, Wormtongue. I know it's hard, but a little
> forthrightness might help.
>
>
Sorry, man, you forgot all about Perot.
And I made one inadvertant error in my list. So let me correct it.
I sat out the Dukakis race, didn't vote for President.





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ScottW
March 9th 04, 02:22 AM
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Sandman" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I voted for Bush in the 2000 election. It was the first time in
> > > my life I ever voted for a Republican for President. I voted for
> > > McGovern, Carter, Mondale and Dukakis.
> >
> > Let's just assume for argument's sake that I believe you, which I
don't.
> >
> > If 2000 was the first time you voted Republican in your life, and
Dukakis
> > was the last Democrat you voted for, there's an 8 year gap (remember
the
> 18
> > 1/2 minute gap?) - you omitted the years 1992 and 1996. I'll bet you
> didn't
> > vote Democrat (for Clinton) in those years (you appear to admit as much
by
> > omission).
> >
>
> In 1992 I voted for Perot. In 1996 I voted for another guy with big ears.
> I wrote in Micky Mouse.
>
> > So, continuing to assume for argument's sake that you voted Democrat
until
> > 1992, there's only one possible explanation: you had a car accident
> sometime
> > prior to that election, hurt your back, gained weight, and suffered a
> sever
> > concussion - so severe that all of your political beliefs went straight
> out
> > the window, and your brain turned 180 degrees in your skull, and you
began
> > voting Republican. I mean, how else, assuming the truth of your
> statement,
> > can one explain that someone would vote against Reagan's "trickle-down
> > economics" twice (and that dumbass greed theory was thoroughly
discredited
> > early in his administration since it led to layoffs, deficits, and
> > recession), yet by 2000 you're voting for another Republican dumbass
who
> > promises to raise that discredited "trickle-down" **** from the dead -
and
> > does so even more brazenly, leading to even more severe job losses,
> > deficits, and recession, and by 2004 you're crazy enough to plan on
voting
> > for five more years of that same ****?
> >
> > Try to make some sense, Wormtongue. I know it's hard, but a little
> > forthrightness might help.
> >
> >
> Sorry, man, you forgot all about Perot.
> And I made one inadvertant error in my list. So let me correct it.
> I sat out the Dukakis race, didn't vote for President.

Have you figured you why Sanders feels the need to go off with
this irrational hate speech?

With him as a liberal, do we even need conservatives?

ScottW

Arny Krueger
March 9th 04, 12:01 PM
"ScottW" > wrote in message
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> Have you figured you why Sanders feels the need to go off with
> this irrational hate speech?

Anybody who lived through Sanders past life as an audiophile knows that he
is driven by hate and ignorance.

Jacob Kramer
March 9th 04, 06:21 PM
George M. Middius > wrote in message >...

> That's sort of right. Dubya is Big Money's incumbent. You'd need a
> scandal the size of Watergate to overcome that advantage.

Here's a fun site:

http://fairmodel.econ.yale.edu/RAYFAIR/PDF/2002DHTM.HTM

This Yale economist has calculated an equation that explains all the
elections back to 1916 using two variables: the growth rate and the
inflation rate in the year of the election. This model says that
Nixon would get 59.4 percent based on 6.1 percent growth and 4.8
percent inflation in 1972. In fact he got 61.8 percent.

In other words, Watergate didn't stop him.

It predicts 58.7 percent for Dubya in 2004 based on estimated data,
btw.

Joseph Oberlander
March 9th 04, 07:36 PM
Jacob Kramer wrote:

> George M. Middius > wrote in message >...
>
>
>>That's sort of right. Dubya is Big Money's incumbent. You'd need a
>>scandal the size of Watergate to overcome that advantage.
>
>
> Here's a fun site:
>
> http://fairmodel.econ.yale.edu/RAYFAIR/PDF/2002DHTM.HTM
>
> This Yale economist has calculated an equation that explains all the
> elections back to 1916 using two variables: the growth rate and the
> inflation rate in the year of the election. This model says that
> Nixon would get 59.4 percent based on 6.1 percent growth and 4.8
> percent inflation in 1972. In fact he got 61.8 percent.
>
> In other words, Watergate didn't stop him.
>
> It predicts 58.7 percent for Dubya in 2004 based on estimated data,
> btw.

There are exceptions, though. If Bush shoots his own foot off,
which is fairly likely, it's going to be razor-thin.

unitron
March 10th 04, 01:22 AM
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" > wrote in message >...

>
> In 1992 I voted for Perot. In 1996 I voted for another guy with big ears.
> I wrote in Micky Mouse.
>

If that ain't a sig file waiting to happen I don't know what is.